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Top 4 Free Agents You Would Like To Become Texans

steelbtexan said:
1 top tier
2 mid tier
1 lower tier

No to the Daron Payne's who are going to get paid 20 mil per yr. Lets keep this reasonable.

Mine

1. Zach Allen

2. Terrell Edmunds
3. Garrett Bradbury

4. Azeez Al-Shaair
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Good choices Steel !
I had some knowledge of them except for Bradbury who I knew nothing about but he appears to be a young vet who should be in his prime at a position where there seems to be general agreement that we really need an upgrade.
I dunno is Warhop still the Texans OL coach ?
Over on the Texans website they don't even have the new OC & DC listedd so they need to crack the whip and get their programmers to make the organizations website current,especially with all of the key personnel changes.
 
steelbtexan said:
1 top tier
2 mid tier
1 lower tier

No to the Daron Payne's who are going to get paid 20 mil per yr. Lets keep this reasonable.

Mine

1. Zach Allen

2. Terrell Edmunds
3. Garrett Bradbury

4. Azeez Al-Shaair
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Would love to plug in Zach Allen into the middle of the line - a big difference making in the run who can get TFL and occasionally pressure the QB. Also would love Azeez Al-Shaair he's great - definite starter material he was just more rotational due to SFs huge LB talent surplus.
 
steelbtexan said:
1 top tier
2 mid tier
1 lower tier

No to the Daron Payne's who are going to get paid 20 mil per yr. Lets keep this reasonable.

Mine

1. Zach Allen

2. Terrell Edmunds
3. Garrett Bradbury

4. Azeez Al-Shaair
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Love this list. Though, arguing semantics, i’d say Edmunds is the top tier and Allen the mid tier.
 
1) Tremaine Edmunds (backup plan Germaine Pratt).

2) Zach Allen

3) Ethan Pocic (Though Bradbury is a close second for me).

4) Azeez Al-Shaair

Throw in Jimmie Ward to be starting FS but lower tier FA contract.

Main priorities MIKE LB and center. I want to fill those needs in FA with veterans that are ready to be leaders and quality players day 1. Not half assed quitters like Britt or JAGs like Kirksey.
 
TheRealJoker said:
1) Tremaine Edmunds (backup plan Germaine Pratt).

2) Zach Allen

3) Ethan Pocic (Though Bradbury is a close second for me).

4) Azeez Al-Shaair

Throw in Jimmie Ward to be starting FS but lower tier FA contract.

Main priorities MIKE LB and center. I want to fill those needs in FA with veterans that are ready to be leaders and quality players day 1. Not half assed quitters like Britt or JAGs like Kirksey.
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It would be nice to fill those needs before the draft.

LBs and Cs seem to go early in the PFF mocks I do. I want E first and foremost early & often.

:coffee:
 
cuppacoffee said:
It would be nice to fill those needs before the draft.

LBs and Cs seem to go early in the PFF mocks I do. I want E first and foremost early & often.

:coffee:
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Agreed. I’m not thrilled with this year’s LB class and think if you want a legitimate upgrade you have to take Simpson or Sanders, likely at 12, maybe trade down a few spots if lucky. But doubt either will be at 33 once they test at combine/pro days. Then on top of that you have to hope they have a short learning curve and are able to be coached up enough to fulfill that 1st round value.

I would much rather pick another position at 12 while paying an established vet like Edmunds or Pratt to fill what I think is the largest need for defense this offseason.

Center is a different story. I wouldn’t mind drafting a rookie center. I like several options for this scheme (Schmitz and Tippman my two favorites. But wouldn’t mind Wypler or Olesugun). But if the team goes QB at 2 as I suspect then I want a quality vet at center and use that day 2 pick elsewhere.
 
Good list.

Cut Kirksey, Maybin, Britt, and extend Tunsil that frees up about 20 million on top of the 25million you already have available you free up another 10mil if you're able to trade Cooks without taking on his salary

Personally for the major ones I'd go

Tremaine Edmunds 15mil APY
Ethan Pocic roughly 7mil APY
Zach Allen11-12 mil APY
Maybe the Azeez Al-Shaair dude roughly 5mil APY
Re-sign Obo 5mil
Re-sign Akins 2mil
Re-sign Tavierre Thomas and maybe Tremon smith 3mil combined

Probably can't get all of that done but that would be ideal for me
 
Khelar said:
Good list.

Cut Kirksey, Maybin, Britt, and extend Tunsil that frees up about 20 million on top of the 25million you already have available you free up another 10mil if you're able to trade Cooks without taking on his salary

Personally for the major ones I'd go

Tremaine Edmunds 15mil APY
Ethan Pocic roughly 7mil APY
Zach Allen11-12 mil APY
Maybe the Azeez Al-Shaair dude roughly 5mil APY
Re-sign Obo 5mil
Re-sign Akins 2mil
Re-sign Tavierre Thomas and maybe Tremon smith 3mil combined

Probably can't get all of that done but that would be ideal for me
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Like it. But don’t forget to cut Eric Murray for another 4 million in savings!
 
TheRealJoker said:
1) Tremaine Edmunds (backup plan Germaine Pratt).

2) Zach Allen

3) Ethan Pocic (Though Bradbury is a close second for me).

4) Azeez Al-Shaair

Throw in Jimmie Ward to be starting FS but lower tier FA contract.

Main priorities MIKE LB and center. I want to fill those needs in FA with veterans that are ready to be leaders and quality players day 1. Not half assed quitters like Britt or JAGs like Kirksey.
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I like this, but Pocic's injury history and the fact that he played between 2 pro bowl OG's bothers me.
 
Khelar said:
I have this recurring nightmare because of Caserio's most recent interview where we just keep all of these guys and run it back with the same team next year.
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Meh, he has made some sweeping changes to the roster since coming in - remember all those 1 and 2 year deals?
 
Khelar said:
Good list.

Cut Kirksey, Maybin, Britt, and extend Tunsil that frees up about 20 million on top of the 25million you already have available you free up another 10mil if you're able to trade Cooks without taking on his salary

Personally for the major ones I'd go

Tremaine Edmunds 15mil APY
Ethan Pocic roughly 7mil APY
Zach Allen11-12 mil APY
Maybe the Azeez Al-Shaair dude roughly 5mil APY
Re-sign Obo 5mil
Re-sign Akins 2mil
Re-sign Tavierre Thomas and maybe Tremon smith 3mil combined

Probably can't get all of that done but that would be ideal for me
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may i throw in Eric Murray's $4 million if cut?



Edit as Joker posted this.
 
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I can't do four...but here are some guys I like that I think could fit and are tier 2 or 3 types that won't totally break the bank but good enough to be part of a future.

QB - Jacoby Brissett or Mike White (Mills becomes #3 or is released)
WR - Parris Cambell or Jakobi Myers
RB - David Montgomery or Raashad Penny (Penny is an injury concern, so he is depth only)
Oline - Garrett Bradbury (C), Nate Davis (G), Cameron Fleming (T)
TE - Austin Hooper
DL - Zach Allen or Morgan Fox
Edge - Arden Key or Marcus Davenport
LB - Kyzir White or Azeez Al-Shaair
CB - Rock Ya-Sin or Byron Murphy
S - Adrian Amos, Jimmy Ward, or Julian Love
 
My updated FA wish list:

1) Tremaine Edmunds (backup plan Germaine Pratt).

2) Ethan Pocic (Though Bradbury is a close second for me).

3) DJ Chark (big bodied vertical threat).

4) Zach Allen (I expect him to be pricey. Would rather fill DL need in draft so he drops a spot).

Add in a few more bargain bin types like Al-Shaair and Jimmie Ward. Plus some key re-signs like Ogbo and Tavierre and this team will be rolling for the draft!
 
TheRealJoker said:
My updated FA wish list:

1) Tremaine Edmunds (backup plan Germaine Pratt).

2) Ethan Pocic (Though Bradbury is a close second for me).

3) DJ Chark (big bodied vertical threat).

4) Zach Allen (I expect him to be pricey. Would rather fill DL need in draft so he drops a spot).

Add in a few more bargain bin types like Al-Shaair and Jimmie Ward. Plus some key re-signs like Ogbo and Tavierre and this team will be rolling for the draft!
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How about Pocic center and Bradbury RG?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I’m okay with Cann this season provided the team drafts a RG. Cann would be competing for his starting job. His play wasn’t stellar enough to be handed the job.
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Agree, Agree .... the only other thing that I know I'd do is sign Garrett Bradburry .... need a vet and good player, calling sets anchoring the OLine !
 
BullRushTX said:
Hey, Carson Wentz just got released. Pick him up and we don't need to draft a QB. /s
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sign him to a one year prove it deal...take Hooker in the 3rd, and maybe Haener in the 5th...Let them all compete with Mills for the starting job. Draft Jalen Carter @ 1.2 or trade back and take one of the DE's. If we get one of the DE's instead of Carter, trade back from 1.12 to late in the first, and get DT Mazi Smith. In the 2nd, get our Center.
 
How does Hooker have so many of y’all hooked. 25 years old coming off an ACL with one year of good production and no experience actually reading defenses. Probably won’t win a starting job until he’s 26.

lol
 
Khelar said:
How does Hooker have so many of y’all hooked. 25 years old coming off an ACL with one year of good production and no experience actually reading defenses. Probably won’t win a starting job until he’s 26.

lol
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When you say he has "no experience actually reading defenses", what do you specifically mean? I see someone who started 36 games in college, so he has experience reading defenses. Is the critique that he doesn't do a good job at it, or based on the system he is in?

Also, he had two good years of production at Tennessee. 6k yards with 58 TDs to 5 Int at 69% accuracy along with 1k rushing yards, with rather similar stats between the two. Which of these seasons are you not considering productive?
 
Khelar said:
How does Hooker have so many of y’all hooked. 25 years old coming off an ACL with one year of good production and no experience actually reading defenses. Probably won’t win a starting job until he’s 26.

lol
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Why are you so concerned with his age? How old was Aaron Rodgers when he finally took over as the starter in Green Bay? How old was Warren Moon when he became the QB of the Oilers? An ACL injury for a QB isn't a major issue. His age isn't really an issue either. If he plays for 10 years, he would only be 35-36. Hell, Brady and Rodgers are in their 40's.

Also, I'm not taking him in the 1st round either. I'm talking about taking him in the 3rd. There isn't a QB in this draft that I would take with either of our 1st round picks. I would probably be the least upset about using the 1.12 on Levis over the other guys, but still wouldn't be very happy about it. I would be very disappointed if we took one of these QB's @ 1.2. I'll still support whoever it is though.
 
vtech9 said:
Why are you so concerned with his age? How old was Aaron Rodgers when he finally took over as the starter in Green Bay? How old was Warren Moon when he became the QB of the Oilers? An ACL injury for a QB isn't a major issue. His age isn't really an issue either. If he plays for 10 years, he would only be 35-36. Hell, Brady and Rodgers are in their 40's.

Also, I'm not taking him in the 1st round either. I'm talking about taking him in the 3rd. There isn't a QB in this draft that I would take with either of our 1st round picks. I would probably be the least upset about using the 1.12 on Levis over the other guys, but still wouldn't be very happy about it. I would be very disappointed if we took one of these QB's @ 1.2. I'll still support whoever it is though.
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This is where I'm at.

Levis at 1-12 is something that I wouldn't like, but understand.
 
vtech9 said:
Why are you so concerned with his age? How old was Aaron Rodgers when he finally took over as the starter in Green Bay? How old was Warren Moon when he became the QB of the Oilers? An ACL injury for a QB isn't a major issue. His age isn't really an issue either. If he plays for 10 years, he would only be 35-36. Hell, Brady and Rodgers are in their 40's.

Also, I'm not taking him in the 1st round either. I'm talking about taking him in the 3rd. There isn't a QB in this draft that I would take with either of our 1st round picks. I would probably be the least upset about using the 1.12 on Levis over the other guys, but still wouldn't be very happy about it. I would be very disappointed if we took one of these QB's @ 1.2. I'll still support whoever it is though.
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Because it lowers his ceiling, double super senior just has less room to grow than a guy who has been playing at that level for just a couple years.
 
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Young is the most pro-ready plug-and-play QB in this draft that also brings the it factor I'm looking for along with a big set of intangibles with him. He's everything Burrow is except...

He has one negative - size/frame. How big of an issue is will vary person to person.

But I think out of all the QB's in this draft, he by far has the best chance to be a franchise-level player. He's my guy and I'll keep saying it until the cows come home.

Stroud I think is likely to be good, but not great. And that's ok if you build a good team around him, but I don't think he can carry a team, and his intangibles don't match Young. There's much less of an it factor with him, not as much of a playmakers. That said, if Young is gone, I'm down to Stroud or Anderson at 1.2. And if you take Anderson...

There's no other guy that I feel has a better than a 50/50 shot of being the long-term answer, if that. It's throw a dart at the board and hope you hit. I like Hooker ok at 33 but he's old, he's injured, and he needs to learn to read a D. Very iffy whether he will ever be the guy. Possible, but less than a 50/50 shot IMHO.
 
sandman said:
based on the system he is in?
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It's an RPO system where Hooker had to read one side of the field. Though he will get plenty of time to study while sitting out his rookie year.

There is something about a guy competing against players 2-3 years younger than he is, and looking dominant. COVID has screwed up a lot of timelines for college players. Hooker didn't have the advantage of being dropped into a pro friendly system like Bryce Young. I think there is still some upside to Hooker. But you have to be honest in that he has a long way to go, as well.
 
Porky said:
Young is the most pro-ready plug-and-play QB in this draft that also brings the it factor I'm looking for along with a big set of intangibles with him. He's everything Burrow is except...

He has one negative - size/frame. How big of an issue is will vary person to person.

But I think out of all the QB's in this draft, he by far has the best chance to be a franchise-level player. He's my guy and I'll keep saying it until the cows come home.

Stroud I think is likely to be good, but not great. And that's ok if you build a good team around him, but I don't think he can carry a team, and his intangibles don't match Young. There's much less of an it factor with him, not as much of a playmakers. That said, if Young is gone, I'm down to Stroud or Anderson at 1.2. And if you take Anderson...

There's no other guy that I feel has a better than a 50/50 shot of being the long-term answer, if that. It's throw a dart at the board and hope you hit. I like Hooker ok at 33 but he's old, he's injured, and he needs to learn to read a D. Very iffy whether he will ever be the guy. Possible, but less than a 50/50 shot IMHO.
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Hmmm...I seem to remember a QB named Trubiskey was also the most pro-ready, plug-and-play QB. How'd that turn out?

I'm not taking the risk on a QB with Young's size and build until the 2nd round at the earliest, but most likely later. Stroud is a 2nd round pick in my world. If Hooker was healthy, I'd take him at 2.33, but since he's recovering from an injury, I'm waiting until the 3rd for him.
 
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