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steelbtexan said:
How many championship teams has he been a part of building? Honest question
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Depends on how you define "part of building".

Chiefs GM 2013-16, so had some part building the roster that won in 2019. Admittedly debatable how much.
They never had a losing season when he was there, but he arrived at the same time Reid did, and they still haven't had a losing season since Dorsey left.

He was Director of college scouting for GB 2000 -11, and they won the SB in 2010.

Then he was GM for Cleveland until last year, so most likely was one of the more significant contributors to building their current roster which has been considered to be pretty talented for a few years and finally putting it together on the field this year.

So, how much has he contributed to championships? Hard to quantify and open to debate.
But I feel like he was instrumental building quality rosters in the case of KC and Cleveland.

Now my honest question is what other candidate has more experience being part of building a championship team?
 
Lucky said:
The more I think of where this organization is, the more I think there needs to be 3 new hires. Yes, a new GM and HC. But above them, there needs to be a real head honcho. A buffer between the team and ownership. A real football guy that knows what he's doing and has the gravitas to lead a winning organization. Like a Tex Schramm was for the Cowboys back in the day.

Both the GM and HC report to Head Honcho. No power struggles. No politics. No interference from the McNairs. If the McNairs are serious about winning (and making $$$), and not using this franchise as a hobby, this is the way to go.
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Sounds like the perfect setup until someone Elways it up.
 
welsh texan said:
My thoughts on Dorsey are that in order to navigate through the current mess, we will need a return to a build through the draft mentality, at least for the next 2 or 3 years until the cap situation is truly fixed. That’s going to take a lot of discipline on a team with glaring holes on its roster.

A guy with Dorset’s experience should be capable of adapting to the situation, but he’ll need to leave this aggressive FA mentality at the door, need to fix the foundations before we build for a championship.
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It’s actually the other way around. The cap situation can be fixed rather quickly, not having all our picks is the issue, that’s a year or two away Unless the new GM can work some magic and pick up some more mid rounders which would be nice
 
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michaelm said:
Depends on how you define "part of building".

Chiefs GM 2013-16, so had some part building the roster that won in 2019. Admittedly debatable how much.
They never had a losing season when he was there, but he arrived at the same time Reid did, and they still haven't had a losing season since Dorsey left.

He was Director of college scouting for GB 2000 -11, and they won the SB in 2010.

Then he was GM for Cleveland until last year, so most likely was one of the more significant contributors to building their current roster which has been considered to be pretty talented for a few years and finally putting it together on the field this year.

So, how much has he contributed to championships? Hard to quantify and open to debate.
But I feel like he was instrumental building quality rosters in the case of KC and Cleveland.

Now my honest question is what other candidate has more experience being part of building a championship team?
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I was talking about Riddick

But to answer your question about Dorsey, None, Maybe the only person that can match Dorsey out there personnel wise would be McCloughan. We know McCloughan will never even be interviewed. (Not Texans Worthy) So give me Dorsey, although I do like Dodds alot.

Wanna bet Bienemy ends up with the Chargers or Falcons?
 
Lucky said:
The more I think of where this organization is, the more I think there needs to be 3 new hires. Yes, a new GM and HC. But above them, there needs to be a real head honcho. A buffer between the team and ownership. A real football guy that knows what he's doing and has the gravitas to lead a winning organization. Like a Tex Schramm was for the Cowboys back in the day.

Both the GM and HC report to Head Honcho. No power struggles. No politics. No interference from the McNairs. If the McNairs are serious about winning (and making $$$), and not using this franchise as a hobby, this is the way to go.
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Like your way of thinking. Hire the honcho...let him approve the GM, then hire the HC. One meeting, one simple statement, you duckers don’t figure out how to work together and towards a singular goal of winning....you’ll be out as fast as you were invited in.
 
steelbtexan said:
I was talking about Riddick

But to answer your question about Dorsey, None, Maybe the only person that can match Dorsey out there personnel wise would be McCloughan. We know McCloughan will never even be interviewed. (Not Texans Worthy) So give me Dorsey, although I do like Dodds alot.

Wanna bet Bienemy ends up with the Chargers or Falcons?
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I'll pass on that bet. I won't be heartbroken though.
I really don't have a strong opinion on Bienemy one way or the other.

I'm not feeling Riddick, but admittedly don't know much about him
 
Lucky said:
My only real problem with Dorsey is his selection of Freddie Kitchens as the Brown's HC in 2018. There was nothing on Kitchens resume that screamed NFL head coach. I'd like to hear his explanation of why he made that decision.
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“I had an owner that drafted a franchise QB based on the advice of a homeless man who I had to keep happy.”
 
Lucky said:
The more I think of where this organization is, the more I think there needs to be 3 new hires. Yes, a new GM and HC. But above them, there needs to be a real head honcho. A buffer between the team and ownership. A real football guy that knows what he's doing and has the gravitas to lead a winning organization. Like a Tex Schramm was for the Cowboys back in the day.

Both the GM and HC report to Head Honcho. No power struggles. No politics. No interference from the McNairs. If the McNairs are serious about winning (and making $$$), and not using this franchise as a hobby, this is the way to go.
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Yep. That would be great. But will Cal let anyone else play with his toy train? Maybe. He's an introvert that does not want to deal with the press, so this could be a great solution.

Do any other teams have a Tex Schramm type-of- guy in their building?

thunderkyss said:
Sounds like the perfect setup until someone Elways it up.
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'eh, I'll take two SB appearances and a Lombardi trophy regardless of what else he does to the franchise.
 
Lucky said:
The more I think of where this organization is, the more I think there needs to be 3 new hires. Yes, a new GM and HC. But above them, there needs to be a real head honcho. A buffer between the team and ownership. A real football guy that knows what he's doing and has the gravitas to lead a winning organization. Like a Tex Schramm was for the Cowboys back in the day.

Both the GM and HC report to Head Honcho. No power struggles. No politics. No interference from the McNairs. If the McNairs are serious about winning (and making $$$), and not using this franchise as a hobby, this is the way to go.
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I've always argued that the more successful winning organizations had 1 man in charge, who knew how to win more than most, calling all of the shots whether it be a GM or a HC. There was never a question who was the boss and ultimate decision maker whether it be, Tex Schramm, Ozzie Newsome, Ron Wolf, Ted Thompson, Al Davis, Vince Lombardi, Chuck Noll, Don Shula, Bill Walsh, Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick. One should note that Al Davis is the only Owner and was also a coach for 15 years before becoming a GM and principal owner. This is why I think the decision of whether to hire an offensive mindset or a defensive mindset is completely irrelevant. What you want to strive for is hiring a true LEADER. This is why so many coaches fail as head Coaches because they may be great teachers, they're not good leaders.
 
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Texian said:
I've always argued that the more successful winning organizations had 1 man in charge, who knew how to win more than most, calling all of the shots whether it be a GM or a HC. There was never a question who was the boss and ultimate decision maker whether it be, Tex Schramm, Ozzie Newsome, Ron Wolf, Ted Thompson, Al Davis, Vince Lombardi, Chuck Noll, Don Shula, Bill Walsh, Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick. One should note that Al Davis is the only Owner and was also a coach for 15 years before becoming a GM and principal owner. This is why I think the decision of whether to hire an offensive mindset or a defensive mindset is completely irrelevant. What you want to strive to hire is a true LEADER. This is why so many coaches fail as head Coaches because they're not organizational leaders of people.
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Well said about needing a leader.

I was listening to the 610 guys this morning while they were going over Korn Ferry's sales materials, and the consulting firm seems to disregard two aspects that I would assume would be important as a GM: leadership and experience on the resume.

After hearing that breakdown, I'm really hoping the firm is just part of a bigger strategy process and not a primary advocate for whoever they hire. It was pure corporate speak, but that might be what Cal feels comfortable with since he was raised in that type of environment.
 
Double Barrel said:
Yep. That would be great. But will Cal let anyone else play with his toy train? Maybe. He's an introvert that does not want to deal with the press, so this could be a great solution.

Do any other teams have a Tex Schramm type-of- guy in their building?



'eh, I'll take two SB appearances and a Lombardi trophy regardless of what else he does to the franchise.
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After moving to Nashville, for a while Bud Adams had a similar setup. He had Jeff Diamond as President of Football Ops, Jeff Fisher as HC and Floyd Reese as GM. During the period, the Titans had a 56-24 record and one Super Bowl appearance. Diamond was the tiebreaker when Fisher and Reese disagreed.

However, in typical Adams' fashion. He got cheap and didn't renew Diamond's contract. Without Diamond around, Fisher and Reese got into power battles, Reese got fired and they did not sniff another Super Bowl.

If Cal does something similar, does Easterby get the Jeff Diamond role?
 
Earl34 said:
After moving to Nashville, for a while Bud Adams had a similar setup. He had Jeff Diamond as President of Football Ops, Jeff Fisher as HC and Floyd Reese as GM. During the period, the Titans had a 56-24 record and one Super Bowl appearance. Diamond was the tiebreaker when Fisher and Reese disagreed.

However, in typical Adams' fashion. He got cheap and didn't renew Diamond's contract. Without Diamond around, Fisher and Reese got into power battles, Reese got fired and they did not sniff another Super Bowl.

If Cal does something similar, does Easterby get the Jeff Diamond role?
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IN MY OPINION


This Easterby thing is so blown out of proportion it’s not even funny. There has been no real reports of him making a power play, no sign of him gaining any power or even any indication he wants to have power. In fact if anything he has lost power since OB was fired as thy have repeatedly said he was not a personnel guy and would not be the GM.

All this stems from the fact he came from NE and, for some, that he is very religious. Other than those two things nobody really knows anything about him but he has become the new source for all of the Texans problems.

What is it about this fan base that they have to have one person, be it Smith, OB, Watson or Easterby, that they can point to and say there is our Johan, throw him overboard and it’s smooth sailing from there.
 
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maverick512000 said:
This Easterby thing is so blown out of proportion it’s not even funny. There has been no real reports of him making a power play, no sign of him gaining any power or even any indication he wants to have power. In fact if anything he has lost power since OB was fired as thy have repeatedly said he was not a personnel guy and would not be the GM.

All this stems from the fact he came from NE and, for some, that he is very religious. Other than those two things nobody really knows anything about him but he has become the new source for all of the Texans problems.

What is it about this fan base that they have to have one person, be it Smith, OB, Watson or Easterby, that they can point to and say there is our Johan, throw him overboard and it’s smooth sailing from there.
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Okay, with all due respect, please cite something credible to support this perspective.

We can find many legit sources criticizing Easterby and stating that he's hungry for power, including a cover story of a recent Sports Illustrated. They had over 40 sources from various origins, including other pro teams, colleges, other football executives, and even players.

I don't want baseless conspiracy theories, but rather something - anything - that supports your statement about the guy.

He's a camp counselor with a professional agent that represents football executives and head coaches. btw, he's the ONLY camp counselor in the NFL with an agent. This is fact, not conjecture.

Like I said, I want something credible that sheds light on the lack of ambition of Easterby beyond assumptions. I don't wish to argue, but rather gain more information. Because, right now, there is plenty of evidence to lead someone to believe that he's got much higher ambitions in the NFL than just being a mere counselor.
 
Earl34 said:
After moving to Nashville, for a while Bud Adams had a similar setup. He had Jeff Diamond as President of Football Ops, Jeff Fisher as HC and Floyd Reese as GM. During the period, the Titans had a 56-24 record and one Super Bowl appearance. Diamond was the tiebreaker when Fisher and Reese disagreed.

However, in typical Adams' fashion. He got cheap and didn't renew Diamond's contract. Without Diamond around, Fisher and Reese got into power battles, Reese got fired and they did not sniff another Super Bowl.

If Cal does something similar, does Easterby get the Jeff Diamond role?
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Normally speaking, he is already in it. The Executive Vice President of Football Operations is that role. EVP of Football Ops--->GM--->HC
 
Double Barrel said:
Okay, with all due respect, please cite something credible to support this perspective.

We can find many legit sources criticizing Easterby and stating that he's hungry for power, including a cover story of a recent Sports Illustrated. They had over 40 sources from various origins, including other pro teams, colleges, other football executives, and even players.

I don't want baseless conspiracy theories, but rather something - anything - that supports your statement about the guy.

He's a camp counselor with a professional agent that represents football executives and head coaches. btw, he's the ONLY camp counselor in the NFL with an agent. This is fact, not conjecture.

Like I said, I want something credible that sheds light on the lack of ambition of Easterby beyond assumptions. I don't wish to argue, but rather gain more information. Because, right now, there is plenty of evidence to lead someone to believe that he's got much higher ambitions in the NFL than just being a mere counselor.
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I read that SI article and it’s basically a hit piece that requires you to trust them in order to believe they have any creditable sources. It attacks his religion as much as it does his job in the Texans. You can just read the part about what they said of Gaine being fired and most on here know that SI got that wrong so it makes you question what if any real source they had. They didn’t name a single person as a source but they sure threw out a lot of numbers “three of those people”, “over a dozen” yet not one of these people could be named?

As I said it’s a very badly written hit piece that you would expect to see in a political section of the paper not a sports paper and I question the motivation behind it seeing how many scum bags in sports that did truly deplorable things never got such a long article written about them.

However if you prefer I will edit my post to reflect its my opinion.

EDIT: Here is the opposite of the SI article.

www.espn.com

Why Jack Easterby won't be GM but is 'incredibly valuable' to Texans

Easterby's unique leadership skills have made him a trusted confidant wherever he has gone. Now, he's facing another challenge in a career that has been full of them.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
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thunderkyss said:
If I were one of these guys looking at Easterby, thinking this guy was able to wiggle in close to McNair with some double talk and minor football knowledge...

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I mean first it was Kubiak’s way, then it was Rick’s way, then it was BO’bs way, now it’s Easterby’s way... I know it’s going to be my way next.
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Exactly...who Easterby and Watson want is who is coming here. Because Cal is not going against Watson and tell him no. And Easterby wants to keep his job. So, he will side with Watson so Cal will be out numbered.

Whoever said "if Easterby is involved nobody good is coming here". Two things
1- He is involved
2- Your right

Whoever is saying Dorsey (sp) not a good GM. He has a few good things about him... but he has many more negative in my opinion. Which is why he is available and not a GM currently.
 
IMO we could do a lot worse than Scott Pioli (and we have). He has had some hits and misses with draft picks, as have all GM's. However, I think he is a good football guy who understands the dynamic and the NFL, which is huge compared to the current braintrust. Keep in mind that he is also the guy who gave Jack Easterby his start in the NFL, for better or worse.
 
Toro Bravo said:
IMO we could do a lot worse than Scott Pioli (and we have). He has had some hits and misses with draft picks, as have all GM's. However, I think he is a good football guy who understands the dynamic and the NFL, which is huge compared to the current braintrust. Keep in mind that he is also the guy who gave Jack Easterby his start in the NFL, for better or worse.
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For WORSE
A good GM is going to be worried about Easterby. Afterall, he showed up and a star player is traded for $0.50 cents and a Coke. The HC who just won a division is canned. And players are saying that they have been being watched. Would YOU in all honesty even bother to interview? Keep it in mind, you only GET ONE chance to show you can do the job.

And YES 150% proof that Easterby was telling Cal to trade Hopkins due to him being "a bad influence" because of things he said!?
 
Anyone else see this? Team's are going to be rewarded? Why? You hire the best person for the job. No matter what color or anything else they are. I think it is a little bit reverse racist for a team to be rewarded. True, many minority HC and GM candidates are around. Some are very good at the job. A few I would not mind if we were to hire a few. I just think any reward is wrong. It will encourage some. But, I'm not sure if it is sending a positive message.

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SnakeEyes said:
Anyone else see this? Team's are going to be rewarded? Why? You hire the best person for the job. No matter what color or anything else they are. I think it is a little bit reverse racist for a team to be rewarded. True, many minority HC and GM candidates are around. Some are very good at the job. A few I would not mind if we were to hire a few. I just think any reward is wrong. It will encourage some. But, I'm not sure if it is sending a positive message.

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Dude you have really got to start reading the articles you link. It says teams that LOSE a minority due to them being hired away will receive picks. Now while my first reaction is same as yours in that race should not play a role one way or the other, thinking about it I really can’t figure out how this changes anything.

In fact it might even give a team a reason NOT to hire a minority if they know that the other team is going to get a pick for losing the person. Sounds petty and small but if you have two candidates that are neck and neck then in theory it could affect it.
 
FWIW Lions are interviewing Riddick too so I don't know if thats bad or good when it comes to is he a guy that can lead a franchise. He seems like a pretty smart guy and knows what he is talking about on tv and thats saying something with all the bad analysts ESPN trots out there these days.
 
Mollywhopper said:
I hope my team wouldn't let a couple of third round picks a year apart from one another get in the way of them hiring the best man for either of the two most important jobs in their building.
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Teams do weird things and make weird decisions sometimes. That being said I was referring to if you had two guys neck and neck and every little thing was being considered because you like them both. If one is the clear winner then yeah I don’t think it would make a difference.
 
It'll be a package deal of Bieniemy and Dorsey ....

They've been dead set on Bieniemy since before the search started - the jobs his if he wants it and he'll bring Dorsey along for the ride.
 
texanhead08 said:
FWIW Lions are interviewing Riddick too so I don't know if thats bad or good when it comes to is he a guy that can lead a franchise. He seems like a pretty smart guy and knows what he is talking about on tv and thats saying something with all the bad analysts ESPN trots out there these days.
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I already said this, because the Lions are said to be set to hire if we didn't. Looks like we don't have an offer...so if he goes to Detroit and is great. That's on us. But, Detroit is said to be looking for a GM and HC who work well together and communicates with each other. Aka doing it the right way. Now, will it work out that way is unknown...
 
Mollywhopper said:
I hope my team wouldn't let a couple of third round picks a year apart from one another get in the way of them hiring the best man for either of the two most important jobs in their building.
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Same. I read about 6 articles on it and each had a little different spin. I posted the last one I was reading. Other articles somewhat blast the NFL for doing anything at all and call it a bad idea/plan.
 
Toro Bravo said:
IMO we could do a lot worse than Scott Pioli (and we have). He has had some hits and misses with draft picks, as have all GM's. However, I think he is a good football guy who understands the dynamic and the NFL, which is huge compared to the current braintrust. Keep in mind that he is also the guy who gave Jack Easterby his start in the NFL, for better or worse.
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Pioli turned Kansas City into a real Gestapo of a hell hole. People may want to think twice about Pioli:
Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern | The Kansas City Star
 
I don't think the call is usually that close for jobs that important.

I would hope anyway that my franchise can ID the man they truly want.

Says more about the franchise leadership if they can't and if a mid-round pick is the actual deciding factor.
 
Mollywhopper said:
I don't think the call is usually that close for jobs that important.

I would hope anyway that my franchise can ID the man they truly want.

Says more about the franchise leadership if they can't and if a mid-round pick is the actual deciding factor.
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Apparently we dont have the same backgrounds.

There have been many times over the yrs when I've had to make a call between 2 very qualified candidates.
 
SnakeEyes said:
I already said this, because the Lions are said to be set to hire if we didn't. Looks like we don't have an offer...so if he goes to Detroit and is great. That's on us. But, Detroit is said to be looking for a GM and HC who work well together and communicates with each other. Aka doing it the right way. Now, will it work out that way is unknown...
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The Lions must have not been too impressed with him since they didn’t make an offer as everyone claimed they would if we didn’t jump on hiring him.
 
steelbtexan said:
Apparently we dont have the same backgrounds.

There have been many times over the yrs when I've had to make a call between 2 very qualified candidates.
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I've hired many several people, and there were certainly close calls. I also wasn't paying them millions of dollars to be a frontline, controlling leader of a billion-dollar enterprise. If you were, then that's pretty cool.

I hope in those situations it becomes much more clear than eenie meenie miney mo.
 
texanhead08 said:
FWIW Lions are interviewing Riddick too so I don't know if thats bad or good when it comes to is he a guy that can lead a franchise. He seems like a pretty smart guy and knows what he is talking about on tv and thats saying something with all the bad analysts ESPN trots out there these days.
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I like that he appears to always be the adult in the room.

And this franchise is in desperate need of one of those.
 
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