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TIME TO REBOOT AGAINST THE STEELERS WEEK 3

Mangler said:
While it hurts to say this, I hope the Texans score zero points! Going 0-3 may finally piss off the mostly clueless (casual) fanbase enough for the McNairs to take notice. O’Brien is just ruining Watson at this point, putting him behind that atrocious line, while “designing” an offense for him that makes no sense whatsoever. The offense as a whole looks to have regressed.
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I hate that I am venturing on wishing for an awful season but I don't see any future where we win enough regular season games and go deep in the playoffs.
 
TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
I hate that I am venturing on wishing for an awful season but I don't see any future where we win enough regular season games and go deep in the playoffs.
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I’m with you, brother. I’m probably one of the biggest homers you can meet. So much so that family and friends know exactly what to get me (anything Texans related) for my birthday and Christmas. But I think I need a break. I’ve grown tired of this insanity. I hope the organization gets a young mind in here and does it soon before O’Brien Carrs Watson! Hopefully an awful season does it for Baby Cletus and finally runs Chin Hole out of town and back to college football.
 
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JB said:
Why include Keke instead of Stills?
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TheKDog said:
Still has 2 receptions for 16 yards.

Does that make a difference?
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Stills has 5 targets, 2 catches for 16 yards. One of those 2 catches was for 13 yards. So far the 4 speedy WR experiment is a failure.
Mr teX said:
I wanna see a bunch of bubble and tunnel screens, quick slants and dig routes.
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Don't think OB has ever seen or heard those words when discussing a game plan.
Speedy said:
The pressure these guys bring? Holy hell!
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TJ Watt and Bud Dupree are gonna wreak havoc. I don't have a good feeling about this game at all. The Steelers defense is WAYYYYY better than the Chiefs was and is better than the Ravens defense, imo.
 
austins23 said:
TJ Watt and Bud Dupree are gonna wreak havoc. I don't have a good feeling about this game at all. The Steelers defense is WAYYYYY better than the Chiefs was and is better than the Ravens defense, imo.
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Statistics prove that to be true.
Corrosion said:
It's only going to get worse this week - The Steelers pass defense is #1 in the league in completion percentage against , 2nd in Interceptions , 2nd in sacks , 1st in blitz percentage , 1st in pressure rate , 9th in yards per attempt and 3rd in QBR against.
The rush defense is #1 in the league giving up only 2.9 per attempt and yards per game.
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O’Brien has a habit of rebounding after losses and getting his players more motivated (I know we lost first 2). I think we beat pit with solid defensive effort and better overall “team energy” on both sides of ball... think full game like our first half defensive effort from last week. Not sold on pit offense yet. Pitt can afford a loss- we can’t. Low scoring game Texans 23-20.
 
badboy said:
I thought "Great review McClain" until I read last sentence. What in the world makes anyone think Houston can beat Steelers? We cannot stop blitz with our O'line or our QB. Our David Johnson had his avg cut from seven yards to just over three per carry so where is the hope for that aspect of game plan which seems to be run heavy? I expected to lose the first two games but had Pitts as a win preseason. That was slapped out of me. Ben is looking great so far with nothing to slow him down on our D he should pad his stats. Let's be optimistic and say JJ gets two sacks-- where are the rest of the front seven? I was excited about Jacob Martin but one sack in two games? Sheesh! Merciless has become Mercyful and seems to be having fantasies in his head with his millions. Does Conley get on field and at what percent healthy? I am ready to see Greenard and Blacklock had enough frustration to at least pop someone. I don't condone it but poop!

Vikings are only team I see us having a chance to beat and that's 50-50. 0-8 is a high possibility IMO. If we don't win at least 3 of the next 6 I'm calling for a house cleaning coaches and cap space producing trades including Watt, Watson, McKinney and Tunsil. Argue what you want about Dashaun but he and Tunsil are our only assets that could bring some positives in draft picks. No use keeping either going forward. Why would #4 want to stay? Take his bucks and go play for some team he might win a ring with.

And no I don't see another coach (at least any that's available)taking this team and Watson to SB.
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Eric Bieniemy that’s really the only choice.
 
GanadoUHCoog said:
O’Brien has a habit of rebounding after losses and getting his players more motivated (I know we lost first 2). I think we beat pit with solid defensive effort and better overall “team energy” on both sides of ball... think full game like our first half defensive effort from last week. Not sold on pit offense yet. Pitt can afford a loss- we can’t. Low scoring game Texans 23-20.
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That low scoring game would be a season high though
 
Mangler said:
I’m with you, brother. I’m probably one of the biggest homers you can meet. So much so that family and friends know exactly what to get me (anything Texans related) for my birthday and Christmas. But I think I need a break. I’ve grown tired of this insanity. I hope the organization gets a young mind in here and does it soon before O’Brien Carrs Watson! Hopefully an awful season does it for Baby Cletus and finally runs Chin Hole out of town and back to college football.
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DW4 > than Carr just by being avg.
 
The Texans position for position are behind the Steelers. Expecting a win or expecting Watson to carry the team to a win could be a tough call but if it happens you can bet that there'll be a 70+% chance it would be due to the play of Watson.
 
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OptimisticTexan said:
The Texans position for position is behind the Steelers. Expecting a win or expecting Watson to carry the team to a win could be a tough call but if it happens you can bet that there'll be a 70+% chance it would be due to the play of Watson.
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Agreed, 70% is about right for QB's of any team and winning.

70% is also about right for QB's contributing to losses.

7 bad games in a row and counting. I expect next week we will be debating whose fault it is for DE4's 8th bad game in a row. Notice a trend starting to develop?
 
steelbtexan said:
Agreed, 70% is about right for QB's of any team and winning.

70% is also about right for QB's contributing to losses.

7 bad games in a row and counting. I expect next week we will be debating whose fault it is for DE4's 8th bad game in a row. Notice a trend starting to develop?
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The age old question, what came first...the QB or the OL? I was listening to NFL Radio and they mentioned that Watson has been pressured on 60 or 60% of his drop-backs. Either way those numbers would be horrible in 2 games.
 
steelbtexan said:
Agreed, 70% is about right for QB's of any team and winning.

70% is also about right for QB's contributing to losses.

7 bad games in a row and counting. I expect next week we will be debating whose fault it is for DE4's 8th bad game in a row. Notice a trend starting to develop?
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I do......it’s been going on for 6 years and 2 games. That’s a whole lotta years of suckatude and never being held accountable for it.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I do......it’s been going on for 6 years and 2 games. That’s a whole lotta years of suckatude and never being held accountable for it.
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Ever think the McNair's haven't fired BOB because he wasn't the person calling the personnel shots until last yr? In a couple of yrs BOB will be fired if this doesn't work out and with DW4 as his QB it wont work out. Then just like Kubiak the new HC will get a chance to work with DW4 and after that 1st yr the HC will tell the McNair's that DW4 isn't the guy to bring a championship to Kirby. Will the McNair's listen to the HC or will they keep DW4 and keep on cashing those checks? I think we know the answer to that question.
 
steelbtexan said:
Ever think the McNair's haven't fired BOB because he wasn't the person calling the personnel shots until last yr? In a couple of yrs BOB will be fired if this doesn't work out and with DW4 as his QB it wont work out. Then just like Kubiak the new HC will get a chance to work with DW4 and after that 1st yr the HC will tell the McNair's that DW4 isn't the guy to bring a championship to Kirby. Will the McNair's listen to the HC or will they keep DW4 and keep on cashing those checks? I think we know the answer to that question.
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OB should've been fired in year two due to his inability to fill the shoes as an NFL HC and his desire to keep the reins as the teams OC when his playbook and in-game strategy made his HC shortcomings look like a genius at work.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
OB should've been fired in year two due to his inability to fill the shoes as an NFL HC and his desire to keep the reins as the teams OC when his playbook and in-game strategy made his HC shortcomings look like a genius at work.
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How long you going to give the next HC?

A year? certainly not 2 yrs according to this post. Even if the new HC inherits a 2-14 team.
 
Speaking of the Steelers. Although I hated them when the Oilers' were in Houston. Over the years, I've come to admire how the Rooneys run their team and regardless of HC or GM, they have defined roles, an identity for how they want to play offense and defense and a blueprint for finding players to fit their schemes.

When their OL was struggling, Tomlin went out and hired Mike Munchak. They always seem to find WRs to fit their offense. They always seem to find LBs for their 3-4 defense. The McNairs really should have followed the Steelers model instead of trying to be Patriots' South.
 
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steelbtexan said:
How long you going to give the next HC?

A year? certainly not 2 yrs according to this post. Even if the new HC inherits a 2-14 team.
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If you hire a first time HC, you have to give him 4 years unless he's just so bad, you have to pull the plug sooner. What you don't do is give a first time HC full control of your organization and personnel when you hire him or without any notable achievement.
 
Earl34 said:
If you hire a first time HC, you have to give him 4 years unless he's just so bad, you have to pull the plug sooner. What you don't do is give a first time HC full control of your organization and personnel when you hire him or without any notable achievement.
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BOB never had control over anything but the roster he was given. Supposedly there was boardroom type thing when it came to personnel. But BOB stopped going to the meetings when it became obvious that his wishes weren't going to be carried out. It's the reason BOB's survived as long as he has.
 
steelbtexan said:
BOB never had control over anything but the roster he was given. Supposedly there was boardroom type thing when it came to personnel. But BOB stopped going to the meetings when it became obvious that his wishes weren't going to be carried out. It's the reason BOB's survived as long as he has.
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If that's the case, they should have fired his a$$ for not attending meetings. They would have been better off.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
The age old question, what came first...the QB or the OL? I was listening to NFL Radio and they mentioned that Watson has been pressured on 60 or 60% of his drop-backs. Either way those numbers would be horrible in 2 games.
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Pressure isn't always on the OL .... Blitz situations or when the QB holds onto the ball can't really be blamed on the line but either the QB or those assigned to deal with those extra rushers - TE / RB / QB.

When looking at these stats its often very subjective as to who's at fault. We can only make an educated guess as to who's responsible for what.

This line wasn't near as bad in pass protection last year and its essentially the same unit - I can't believe the line is "that bad"
 
Corrosion said:
Isn't that normally the case with this team ? It's either an big / broken play or nothing ?
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That's typically the scenario when the team has a porous OL, TE's that can't block or chip, and receivers that can't break coverage. If Watson breaks out of the pocket, it generally buys the receivers time to finally outrun the coverage.....hence the "OB ALL OR NOTHING OFFENSE".
 
Earl34 said:
If that's the case, they should have fired his a$$ for not attending meetings. They would have been better off.
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Why would you go to a meeting that wasn't required when you know your voice wont be heard. That's the definition of wasting your time. It's also smart to let the other inept party hang himself.
 
steelbtexan said:
BOB never had control over anything but the roster he was given. Supposedly there was boardroom type thing when it came to personnel. But BOB stopped going to the meetings when it became obvious that his wishes weren't going to be carried out. It's the reason BOB's survived as long as he has.
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If that is the case the organization is completely dysfunctional. How many Owners would keep someone on the payroll that gets 5mil a year and won't even show up for meetings? And even if out voted, if OB had any class at all he wouldn't just pout and not show up.
 
steelbtexan said:
Why would you go to a meeting that wasn't required when you know your voice wont be heard. That's the definition of wasting your time. It's also smart to let the other inept party hang himself.
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I can't believe any team with a HC that specializes in making coffee and bringing donuts to the office.
 
steelbtexan said:
BOB never had control over anything but the roster he was given.
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