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In addition to the players O’Brien will send over a can of Beanie Wienies and a 4th round pick to “sweeten” the deal.Doesnt matter, they will be traded for two 3 rounds and a donut.
Mmmmm beanie wienies, . Can’t find that on any shelf right nowIn addition to the players O’Brien will send over a can of Beanie Wienies and a 4th round pick to “sweeten” the deal.
Tunsil's market value estimated at 5 years, $91 million, $18.2 million AAV.Deshaun Watson
Deshaun Watson contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.www.spotrac.com
Laremy Tunsil
Laremy Tunsil contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.www.spotrac.com
News flash, Watson is to. All players are except Brady.I dont see Watson staying here. Tunsil is all about the money
This is something quite of few of us brought up. A few members didn’t want to hear that. One in particular was very adamant and confident when saying he would resign.Report: Texans offered Laremy Tunsil $18.5 million per year
The Texans traded for left tackle Laremy Tunsil before negotiating a new deal.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
Jeebus at 20 plus million per year...This is something quite of few of us brought up. A few members didn’t want to hear that. One in particular was very adamant and confident when saying he would resign.
Boy howdy is BOB backed into a corner. Let's see if fat john travolta can squirm his way out...Report: Texans offered Laremy Tunsil $18.5 million per year
The Texans traded for left tackle Laremy Tunsil before negotiating a new deal.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
“More than” according to the embedded link in the article.Jeebus at 20 plus million per year...
and why players and their agents don't give away their free agency leverage because a random team woke up and wanted to do a trade.I guess this is why you get a deal in place before you make a trade
It takes two to tango. Something many here tend to ignore.and why players and their agents don't give away their free agency leverage because a random team woke up and wanted to do a trade.
No one denied the situation. No one denied we're going to pay out the a55. It's going to get done & none of us are going to be happy about it, or we're going to trade Tunsil for a future 3rd, Julien Davenport, & still pay half of his new salary.This is something quite of few of us brought up. A few members didn’t want to hear that. One in particular was very adamant and confident when saying he would resign.
I’ll be happy with it if the Texans come out of this (choosing Tunsil over Hopkins-negotiations between Tunsil and Texans didn’t start to ramp up until after Hopkins was traded) with at least an AFC championship this season. That’s the only way O’Brien can redeem himself in the eyes of many Texans fans. And I sincerely believe if this doesn’t happen and O’Brien can’t get Tunsil signed to a long term contract he will be fired in 2021.No one denied the situation. No one denied we're going to pay out the a55. It's going to get done & none of us are going to be happy about it, or we're going to trade Tunsil for a future 3rd, Julien Davenport, & still pay half of his new salary.
In a non bizzaro world scenario, he should have been fired after the Hopkins trade.I’ll be happy with it if the Texans come out of this (choosing Tunsil over Hopkins-negotiations between Tunsil and Texans didn’t start to ramp up until after Hopkins was traded) with at least an AFC championship this season. That’s the only way O’Brien can redeem himself in the eyes of many Texans fans. And I sincerely believe if this doesn’t happen and O’Brien can’t get Tunsil signed to a long term contract he will be fired in 2021.
That’s not what made the price go up. Hopkins being here or not Tunsil was always going to be the highest paid LT in history, he knew it, Texans knew it and anybody that has paid attention over the last 5 years knew it. This didn’t even start with the Texans this really kicked up when Raiders gave Trent Brown stupid, all pro money when his stats were middle of the pack at best.When word is out the texans didnt want to pay Hopkins because they have to pay watson and tunsil. The price goes up.....
Bingo, the argument was NEVER about what his price would be, we all knew it would be high, some people were arguing about whether he would resign or not. Now that this story has come out some on here are trying to rewrite history that they were arguing he would be expensive. No, they were arguing he wouldn’t sign at all but again our money spends as good as anybody else’s and in fact if you are signing a big money contract you want to sign it in Texas.No one denied the situation. No one denied we're going to pay out the a55. It's going to get done & none of us are going to be happy about it, or we're going to trade Tunsil for a future 3rd, Julien Davenport, & still pay half of his new salary.
The worry in the current climate is, how long until the richest OL contract in history becomes not enough, same with Watson.Fact everyone here also forgets is that Tunsil will only stay the highest paid LT in history right up until the next stud LT’s contract needs to be renewed.
Who switch up their argument like that? If you’re talking about me then you’re completely wrong. I said from the beginning that dude would want to be the highest paid Left tackle in the league. I also said they should’ve gotten this done when we traded for him. Why give two firsts rounds and not have this deal done. Makes no sense whatsoever. I also told Steel and JB that it’s a good chance he doesn’t resign with the Texans.Bingo, the argument was NEVER about what his price would be, we all knew it would be high, some people were arguing about whether he would resign or not. Now that this story has come out some on here are trying to rewrite history that they were arguing he would be expensive. No, they were arguing he wouldn’t sign at all but again our money spends as good as anybody else’s and in fact if you are signing a big money contract you want to sign it in Texas.
IT....TAKES.....TWO....to make that happen.Who switch up their argument like that? If you’re talking about me then you’re completely wrong. I said from the beginning that dude would want to be the highest paid Left tackle in the league. I also said they should’ve gotten this done when we traded for him. Why give two firsts rounds and not have this deal done. Makes no sense whatsoever. I also told Steel and JB that it’s a good chance he doesn’t resign with the Texans.
At this point I’m pretty sure you are purposely being ignorant because as has been pointed out many, many times if Tunsil or his agent say they are not signing a new deal yet then you can’t force them. But that of course doesn’t fit with the “Texans and OB made a bad trade” narrative so please continue to beat that drum and ignoring facts all the while saying others are ignoring facts.Who switch up their argument like that? If you’re talking about me then you’re completely wrong. I said from the beginning that dude would want to be the highest paid Left tackle in the league. I also said they should’ve gotten this done when we traded for him. Why give two firsts rounds and not have this deal done. Makes no sense whatsoever. I also told Steel and JB that it’s a good chance he doesn’t resign with the Texans.
Yeah which was why as much as I hate the Hopkins trade and think it could have been handled MUCH better all the way around I can’t fault the Texans for not wanting to give him more money. You can just up a players pay every time someone else comes along and gets more money otherwise you would be making new contracts every year.The worry in the current climate is, how long until the richest OL contract in history becomes not enough, same with Watson.
Hopkins’ contract was record breaking on a couple of years ago, also.
I really don’t know where y’all get off calling people ignorant and sh$1. That crap is uncalled for period. Again show me where people are flip flopping. I’m pretty darn sure they thought about all the worse case scenarios. You bringing crap up like that because you’re trying to start some stuff. Yes Rico and quite a few other members do not like Bill O’Brien. And like I said if Tunsil bounce you can best believe the fire will spread even more.At this point I’m pretty sure you are purposely being ignorant because as has been pointed out many, many times if Tunsil or his agent say they are not signing a new deal yet then you can’t force them. But that of course doesn’t fit with the “Texans and OB made a bad trade” narrative so please continue to beat that drum and ignoring facts all the while saying others are ignoring facts.
Oh and by the way, you might want to go look at the trade Rams made for Ramsey. That deal was done by a guy that has been a GM with the same team since 12 and just signed to be with them through 23.
Never said you were ignorant I said you were being ignorant and purposely at that. Also I never mentioned, in the post you quoted at least, flip flopping. The best part is you STILL haven't addressed the points made about not being able to force Tunsil or that a long time GM did basically the exact same deal with another player. Instead of playing the victim or trying to twist it around just address the points.I really don’t know where y’all get off calling people ignorant and sh$1. That crap is uncalled period. Again show me where people are flip flopping. I’m pretty darn sure they thought about all the worse case scenarios. You bringing crap up like that because you’re trying to start some stuff. Yes Rico and quite a few other members do not like Bill O’Brien. And like I said if Tunsil bounce you can best believe the fire will spread even more.
Then...You....Don't....Make.....The....Trade!!!!IT....TAKES.....TWO....to make that happen.
Almost all of BOB's misteps that are being defended around here don't take into account that he put us in the dilemma to start with. It takes two to tango regarding Tunsil's leverage forgets that they didn't extend him with the trade and if he wouldn't sign the extension at that time, you don't do the trade. DHop must not have been worth what we thought because they shopped him extensively forgets that no one forced the trade and we had all the leverage if he really was going to take the holdout path. We couldn't afford DHop because we have to pay Tunsil a record contract forgets that we gave Tunsil the leverage to get that contract because we didn't extend Tunsil with the trade. Clowney wasn't worth what we thought so we had to pay half his salary forgets that we held all the cards with the franchise tag and didn't have to trade him either. If you're able to forget how we keep getting into these situations where we get screwed, you can carry on as if maybe we aren't doing as poorly in building a team as it might seem.Then...You....Don't....Make.....The....Trade!!!!
It appears to be an organization constantly making unforced errors and just running in place to overcome them.Almost all of BOB's misteps that are being defended around here don't take into account that he put us in the dilemma to start with. It takes two to tango regarding Tunsil's leverage forgets that they didn't extend him with the trade and if he wouldn't sign the extension at that time, you don't do the trade. DHop must not have been worth what we thought because they shopped him extensively forgets that no one forced the trade and we had all the leverage if he really was going to take the holdout path. We couldn't afford DHop because we have to pay Tunsil a record contract forgets that we gave Tunsil the leverage to get that contract because we didn't extend Tunsil with the trade. Clowney wasn't worth what we thought so we had to pay half his salary forgets that we held all the cards with the franchise tag and didn't have to trade him either. If you're able to forget how we keep getting into these situations where we get screwed, you can carry on as if maybe we aren't doing as poorly in building a team as it might seem.
Have to disagree with you here. I know the draft picks were a lot but you still hope that after a year of solid play with the team that makes the playoffs going further than they ever had before that you can convince tunsil to remain with the team as you will pay him Pretty much what he's asking for.Then...You....Don't....Make.....The....Trade!!!!
with 39 million dollars in cap space when we traded Hopkins we could have given him ten more andTunsil 10 more to get them at 20 million each. it isn't that rhyme could not afford to keep DeAndre he chose not to.Almost all of BOB's misteps that are being defended around here don't take into account that he put us in the dilemma to start with. It takes two to tango regarding Tunsil's leverage forgets that they didn't extend him with the trade and if he wouldn't sign the extension at that time, you don't do the trade. DHop must not have been worth what we thought because they shopped him extensively forgets that no one forced the trade and we had all the leverage if he really was going to take the holdout path. We couldn't afford DHop because we have to pay Tunsil a record contract forgets that we gave Tunsil the leverage to get that contract because we didn't extend Tunsil with the trade. Clowney wasn't worth what we thought so we had to pay half his salary forgets that we held all the cards with the franchise tag and didn't have to trade him either. If you're able to forget how we keep getting into these situations where we get screwed, you can carry on as if maybe we aren't doing as poorly in building a team as it might seem.
Understood. I was referencing that this argument has been made on here several times -- not that I agree w/ it.with 39 million dollars in cap space when we traded Hopkins we could have given him ten more andTunsil 10 more to get them at 20 million each. it isn't that rhyme could not afford to keep DeAndre he chose not to.
DW4's either really smartI have seen many articles on Watson not being happy about Hopkins leaving (nor am I). Then on social media, he is doing some odd things. First it was liking a tweet from Hoodie (I don't recall what the exact words were... something about new starts), then another similar post by Watson himself. Now, while I don't want to think it... could things like this really be small messages that he wants to leave? This is just a curiosity thing.
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