If he sucked last year he should have been cut or traded and replaced in the off-season.Nope
Colvin was cut because he sucked last yr.
He sucked 1st game this yr and poof, he's gone.
You dont like accountability?
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If he sucked last year he should have been cut or traded and replaced in the off-season.Nope
Colvin was cut because he sucked last yr.
He sucked 1st game this yr and poof, he's gone.
You dont like accountability?
O'Briens turning the Texans into a national joke bothers me.I can see where you get that but it’s less to do with it bothering me and more to do with having so much down time at work and so little to fill it. This site is one of the few not blocked so no it won’t bother me, I just respond because on most days it’s fun to argue with people on here. Last month or so it has become less so.
I was the same way. But it's like crack. You're chasing a high. Now you're at the point where the argument doesn't stimulate you anymore, but you can't stop.I can see where you get that but it’s less to do with it bothering me and more to do with having so much down time at work and so little to fill it. This site is one of the few not blocked so no it won’t bother me, I just respond because on most days it’s fun to argue with people on here. Last month or so it has become less so.
O'Brien must be crack to Cletus.I was the same way. But it's like crack. You're chasing a high. Now you're at the point where the argument doesn't stimulate you anymore, but you can't stop.
You think his next argument is going to be new, intelligent, well thought out. But it's not. It's the same thing he said three pages back. Didn't even rearrange the words.
Maybe if you interject some logic, he'll up his game. You think you're making progress. But nah... same argument from three days ago.
You know what you’re right and that’s some very sound advice.....wow TK, becoming a mod has changed you.I was the same way. But it's like crack. You're chasing a high. Now you're at the point where the argument doesn't stimulate you anymore, but you can't stop.
You think his next argument is going to be new, intelligent, well thought out. But it's not. It's the same thing he said three pages back. Didn't even rearrange the words.
Maybe if you interject some logic, he'll up his game. You think you're making progress. But nah... same argument from three days ago.
They thought he sucked because of injury last yr.If he sucked last year he should have been cut or traded and replaced in the off-season.
Then cut him in training camp. I don't understand waiting until a real game to figure out what to do. It should be done long before. and not a week before like the Kalil cut.They thought he sucked because of injury last yr.
They saw he sucked again this yr and instead of playing him anyways like previous regimes because of $$$$, they cut him.
Now if you want to talk Martin extension we can talk.
They were hoping he could justify his $$$$.Then cut him in training camp. I don't understand waiting until a real game to figure out what to do. It should be done long before. and not a week before like the Kalil cut.
The humor in this place is what keeps me coming back. Some funny dudes on here.You think his next argument is going to be new, intelligent, well thought out. But it's not. It's the same thing he said three pages back. Didn't even rearrange the words.
Team has jack **** to do with it. People aren't leaving the Texans they are tired of Texans talk because this is the most negative fan base I have ever seen of any sport. You can blame that on Bill O'Brien if you want but other teams have bad HC and bad front offices and they don't put down their team in every post. Hell the Miami, Washington and Detroit fans are more hopeful about their teams than we are.
There isn't enough talk about the kickoffThis fan base is negative for a reason.
Every time we get up for a big game …. it ends the same way.
When you've been thru that or 2-14 again for 18 years running , it begins to wear on you as a fan and you get pessimistic.
I think most of us expect this team to put up a decent record but that's not why the games are played.
Almost none of us expect them to beat the better teams and most certainly not in the playoffs when it matters most.
11-5 beat a wildcard team in the opening round then get trounced on the road by NE or KC. That's pretty much the expectation for the season …. and with good reason - 18 years of history and 6 years of the current coach making rookie mistakes like he did twice in the Aints game , the second one you could argue cost them the game.
1) That challenge fiasco in the first half that cost them two time outs - that was a brainfart on national TV if I ever saw one.
2) Why on earth did you kick the ball into the endzone and give it to them at the 25 with 37 seconds left on the clock and a time out in hand - up a single point.
Squib kick … on the ground , make them recover it and burn some clock and the resulting field position is generally neutral to a touchback.
OB earns all the criticism he gets around here …. Yeah , it kinda sucks that it gets discussed in every thread but that's the nature of a head coach , they get the blame.
There isn't enough talk about the kickoff
at the end. Does the head coach or special teams coach make that call?
Kind of...... Season Ticket Holder money.Damn, extended Martin, cut Colvin, paying half of Clowney's contract this year. Are we playing with Monopoly money??
There isn't enough talk about the kickoff
at the end. Does the head coach or special teams coach make that call?
My post from Tuesday morning posted below, in the Monday night game thread (post #1566). I was screamin bloody murder at the TV when they kicked it through the end zone.Yeah , I think I'm the only person who's mentioned that kickoff situation
It would have been a much better choice than booting it through the end zone. Either way, the Texans shouldn’t have allowed Brees to get them in field position.My post from Tuesday morning posted below, in the Monday night game thread (post #1566). I was screamin bloody murder at the TV when they kicked it through the end zone.
Just a thought. You just scored a TD to go up on the Saints by 1, 28-27. But you've left Brees with 37 seconds. They have one timeout left. How about instead of kicking it out of the end zone for a touchback, you kick it to the 3-5 yard line and make them return it. This would burn at least 7 seconds or so off the clock. Even if it's returned back to the 30, now they've burned more time off the clock. If the returner fair catches it, well then they've got crappy field position and you make them have to go further.
Like I said, just a thought. Would have burned a few more seconds off the clock. And that could have been the difference between the FG try and a Hail Mary at the end of the game.
Yes, I believe you can. But in this instance, let's say the kick is fair caught at the 4yd line, or 6 yd line. Now you've gained 19 to 21 yards of field position.I know this is a stupid question but can you fair catch a kickoff? I don't think I have ever seen one.
There isn't enough talk about the kickoff
at the end. Does the head coach or special teams coach make that call?
Yeah , I think I'm the only person who's mentioned that kickoff situation … I'd have made a thread on it but it would just feel like piling on the OB hate train.
Ultimately its on the head coach.
Situational awareness … that's what that was and I think OB has shown in the 5+ years he's been here that he's terrible in that regard.
Seems like common sense to me , I cant comprehend how so many times NFL head coaches make these mistakes while I'm screaming at the TV!
Eh... this is hindsight talk. Saints have a good returner. If he returns it to the 40, and Saints win, then people will be arguing the exact opposite. "I can't believe we just didn't boot it to the end zone!?"My post from Tuesday morning posted below, in the Monday night game thread (post #1566). I was screamin bloody murder at the TV when they kicked it through the end zone.
Just a thought. You just scored a TD to go up on the Saints by 1, 28-27. But you've left Brees with 37 seconds. They have one timeout left. How about instead of kicking it out of the end zone for a touchback, you kick it to the 3-5 yard line and make them return it. This would burn at least 7 seconds or so off the clock. Even if it's returned back to the 30, now they've burned more time off the clock. If the returner fair catches it, well then they've got crappy field position and you make them have to go further.
Like I said, just a thought. Would have burned a few more seconds off the clock. And that could have been the difference between the FG try and a Hail Mary at the end of the game.
Not only can you fair catch a kickoff, but say you get hit with personal fouls and have to kickoff from the 15 or something. That kick can be fair caught, say maybe the 40 or something, and the receiving team can elect to do a free kick from that spot, doing it like a kickoff, and if it goes through the uprights it's 3 points.I know this is a stupid question but can you fair catch a kickoff? I don't think I have ever seen one.
I've been researching and yes you can fair catch a kick off. It is still a free kick so if you let it go the kicking team can recover the ball.
Eh... this is hindsight talk. Saints have a good returner. If he returns it to the 40, and Saints win, then people will be arguing the exact opposite. "I can't believe we just didn't boot it to the end zone!?"
I mean if it was just that simple... kick it to the 3-5 yard line, worst case scenario they return it to the 30, don't you think every team would be doing that all the time? Why wait for an end of game scenario?
I should have been a QB... or a CB. I've got a short memory. I don't remember none of that stuff. Every year is a new year.When you've been thru that or 2-14 again for 18 years running , it begins to wear on you as a fan and you get pessimistic.
LoL @ February.I should have been a QB... or a CB. I've got a short memory. I don't remember none of that stuff. Every year is a new year.
I enjoy watching teams mature from September through December. Then we see the fruits of all that work in January & February.
LoL @ February.
I hope so. I really dislike the way this team operates at times but what I hate worse is hearing random people talking about it.
I wish they’d do better just so I don’t have to hear joe schmoe from around the way talk about how shitty they are out in everyday life.
Just be good so we can talk about being better. That would be refreshing. Put some respect on your name Texans...please
What part of “out in everyday life” was hard to understand?Wtf. You dont want to hear people criticize a team that's never won anything?
The internet might not be right for you.
I think the quote I answered was enough.What part of “out in everyday life” was hard to understand?
Serious question because I like to be as clear as possible.
No idea what that means but....I think the quote I answered was enough.
FWIW, I clearly understood that you weren’t talking about the internet. If someone is confusing the internet with “out in everyday life” that’s not your problem, it’s his.No idea what that means but....
But TK, with Houston football, them fruits is all too often rotten.I enjoy watching teams mature from September through December. Then we see the fruits of all that work in January & February.
No......you put it on your ST unit and coach by letting them know in advance, there will be no TB so it'll be on you guys to shut the return down. By kicking that ball into the endzone, OB just told his ST unit, "I can't trust you".Eh... this is hindsight talk. Saints have a good returner. If he returns it to the 40, and Saints win, then people will be arguing the exact opposite. "I can't believe we just didn't boot it to the end zone!?"
I mean if it was just that simple... kick it to the 3-5 yard line, worst case scenario they return it to the 30, don't you think every team would be doing that all the time? Why wait for an end of game scenario?
I expected either a pooch or squib kick there.Don't give them any chance for a return while still burning a few ticks off the clockNo......you put it on your ST unit and coach by letting them know in advance, there will be no TB so it'll be on you guys to shut the return down. By kicking that ball into the endzone, OB just told his ST unit, "I can't trust you".
Their return man is fast and may turnout to be very good. I'd still prefer a high hang time kick landing at the 5 yard line to burn the extra seconds.I expected either a pooch or squib kick there.Don't give them any chance for a return while still burning a few ticks off the clock
That's what I expected to see when they changed the touchback to 25 yards. Kick it to the front of the endzone & let them bring it out. Any return short of 25 yards is good for the kicking team.Their return man is fast and may turnout to be very good. I'd still prefer a high hang time kick landing at the 5 yard line to burn the extra seconds.
Maybe that's just a hindsight opinion now? I dunno.
Here is an excerpt from an article by John McClain.
"Last year, Colvin left Jacksonville, where he played well as the third cornerback between Jalen Ramsey and A.J. Bouye, for the Texans. They gave him a four-year, $34-million contract that included $18 million guaranteed and a base salary of $7.5 million this year, which he earned by being on the roster for the first game of regular season."
According to this if we had cut Colvin before the first game we would have saved 7.5 million. These are the kinds of things we need a competent GM to handle.
EitherHere is an excerpt from an article by John McClain.
"Last year, Colvin left Jacksonville, where he played well as the third cornerback between Jalen Ramsey and A.J. Bouye, for the Texans. They gave him a four-year, $34-million contract that included $18 million guaranteed and a base salary of $7.5 million this year, which he earned by being on the roster for the first game of regular season."
According to this if we had cut Colvin before the first game we would have saved 7.5 million. These are the kinds of things we need a competent GM to handle.
We'll see what Lonnie's got soon enough. Might force reid or Gibson into a cb role?Either
A) they didn't realize that and should have cut him before the season
Or
B) they did realize that but every other option at slot was worse than colvin.
I'm guessing it's option B. So our secondary will actually get worse playing Lonnie instead of colvin. Going from terrible to double terrible
Agreed. We cut Body-Calhoun to keep Colvin only to cut him. I don't see how people can honestly think money is the leading principal for the Texans decisions.According to this if we had cut Colvin before the first game we would have saved 7.5 million. These are the kinds of things we need a competent GM to handle.
From what Crennel said it will actually push him to use more man defense because Lonnie hasn't learned to play zone properly.We'll see what Lonnie's got soon enough. Might force reid or Gibson into a cb role?
When they run out of cap room will they fire Chris Olsen?Agreed. We cut Body-Calhoun to keep Colvin only to cut him. I don't see how people can honestly think money is the leading principal for the Texans decisions.
Whoa. That's interestingFor what it is worth the consensus of most of the radio talk shows is that the Texans will move Bradley Roby inside and have Lonnie Johnson start outside. Heard some talk about Keion Crossen playing a little inside.
For what it is worth the consensus of most of the radio talk shows is that the Texans will move Bradley Roby inside and have Lonnie Johnson start outside. Heard some talk about Keion Crossen playing a little inside.
They'll make up for any deficiencies in the secondary with a pass rush.One of the things that makes TM so valuable is that he can drop down from his safety position and play the slot. Too bad he got greedy but that’s the life of a honey badger, I guess.
I have no idea where they’re going to get help in the secondary, or anywhere, really. They’ve already traded away their highest draft picks for the next two years.
Roby, addae and Joseph are all free agents next year too.One of the things that makes TM so valuable is that he can drop down from his safety position and play the slot. Too bad he got greedy but that’s the life of a honey badger, I guess.
I have no idea where they’re going to get help in the secondary, or anywhere, really. They’ve already traded away their highest draft picks for the next two years.
Didn't realize that. Wow.Roby, addae and Joseph are all free agents next year too.