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steelbtexan

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Last I checked 12-4 is better than 11-5.

Do you just block out all facts you don't like?
Yes, I blocked out that yr in my mind since they blew HOA to teams with losing records. All Hail the Letterman's Jackets.

OK, I stand corrected 2nd best. Just like 2nd best in points scored with an inferior OL and other than Hopkins pedestrian WR's. Did you know who Vyncient Smith/DeAndre Carter/Stephen Mitchell were before the start of the season? I didn't and they were the Slot WR1 and WR2 at the end of the season. Ryan Freakin Griffin was the TE for gods sake and everybody is trying to run the 3rd best playmaker who made the pro bowl out of town for the 2nd yr in a row.

Yet they won 11 games

Tell me who Kubes had on his offense when they won 12 games and then we can compare talent levels and points scored etc...
 

steelbtexan

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Because we finally got a play maker at QB.
Jesus in cleats minus when they play the Colts. BTW, thanks for admitting BOB did a good job with Watson last yr.

The former GM only had a decade to find a QB. Or atleast make an attempt to find a QB. That goes thru 2 regimes. But hey, he did re-up a horse with a bad hoof that any good trainer (Thanks CnD) would've shot.
 

infantrycak

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Yes, I blocked out that yr in my mind since they blew HOA to teams with losing records. All Hail the Letterman's Jackets.

OK, I stand corrected 2nd best. Just like 2nd best in points scored with an inferior OL and other than Hopkins pedestrian WR's. Did you know who Vyncient Smith/DeAndre Carter/Stephen Mitchell were before the start of the season? I didn't and they were the Slot WR1 and WR2 at the end of the season. Ryan Freakin Griffin was the TE for gods sake and everybody is trying to run the 3rd best playmaker who made the pro bowl out of town for the 2nd yr in a row.

Yet they won 11 games

Tell me who Kubes had on his offense when they won 12 games and then we can compare talent levels and points scored etc...
Yeah buddy, #2 WR 2012 (not fake labeling of slot #1 & #2, actual #2) had same yardage and half the TDs in 16 games as #2 2018 had in 7. #3 in 2018 had almost double in 6 games, really 2, that #3 2012 had in 14 games. James Freakin Casey started 9 games. Devier Posey and his less than 300 yds in 3 years ring a bell? How about Lestar Jean and his less than 200 yd 2 year NFL career? Yeah, they were stacked

Griffen is 100% on OB both for being on the field and routes.
 

infantrycak

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Ok. I'm calling an intervention. You guys hug it out.
You're right. And Kubiak v OB wasn't what my main point has been. That is Watson would thrive in a WCO in my opinion.

E-P could work also if it was run more like in Pittsburgh. They move Big Ben & they know he will buy time. The O is almost unrecognizable to OB's.

Belichick's greatest strength is he adapts. When Moss was there they long bombed. When it was Welker & Edelman they wood peckered. When they had Dillon or Blount they ran power. When they had a host of other RBs they went primarily ZBS. OB is reactive to these decisions, not proactive.
 

powda

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You're right. And Kubiak v OB wasn't what my main point has been. That is Watson would thrive in a WCO in my opinion.

E-P could work also if it was run more like in Pittsburgh. They move Big Ben & they know he will buy time. The O is almost unrecognizable to OB's.

Belichick's greatest strength is he adapts. When Moss was there they long bombed. When it was Welker & Edelman they wood peckered. When they had Dillon or Blount they ran power. When they had a host of other RBs they went primarily ZBS. OB is reactive to these decisions, not proactive.
This multiple offense has never surfaced. Commit to something and be good at it.

I do find hope in gaine over rick. Blind hope maybe.
 

powda

The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
This multiple offense has never surfaced. Commit to something and be good at it.

I do find hope in gaine over rick. Blind hope maybe. Watson with shanny would be...almost perfect.
 

steelbtexan

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You're right. And Kubiak v OB wasn't what my main point has been. That is Watson would thrive in a WCO in my opinion.

E-P could work also if it was run more like in Pittsburgh. They move Big Ben & they know he will buy time. The O is almost unrecognizable to OB's.

Belichick's greatest strength is he adapts. When Moss was there they long bombed. When it was Welker & Edelman they wood peckered. When they had Dillon or Blount they ran power. When they had a host of other RBs they went primarily ZBS. OB is reactive to these decisions, not proactive.
It's pretty hard to be proactive with the skill position players that were forced to play at the end of the season. 2 rookie UDFA WR's and Griffin or 2 rookies that were learning one of the hardest positions to learn on any offense. Not just BOB's offense. Not to mention Jesus in cleats was play with 3 broken ribs and a punctured lung for a good portion of the yr.

Being proactive with Davenport/Lamm as your OT's rather than DB/Winston is a little more difficult than you make it seem to be.
 

steelbtexan

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Yeah buddy, #2 WR 2012 (not fake labeling of slot #1 & #2, actual #2) had same yardage and half the TDs in 16 games as #2 2018 had in 7. #3 in 2018 had almost double in 6 games, really 2, that #3 2012 had in 14 games. James Freakin Casey started 9 games. Devier Posey and his less than 300 yds in 3 years ring a bell? How about Lestar Jean and his less than 200 yd 2 year NFL career? Yeah, they were stacked

Griffen is 100% on OB both for being on the field and routes.
AJ/Foster/OD etc...

You were the one singing the virtues of Walter. not me. I called for un upgrade over him for yrs. Face it the oft injured WFV is the best WR2 this team has ever had.
 

steelbtexan

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You're right. And Kubiak v OB wasn't what my main point has been. That is Watson would thrive in a WCO in my opinion.

E-P could work also if it was run more like in Pittsburgh. They move Big Ben & they know he will buy time. The O is almost unrecognizable to OB's.

Belichick's greatest strength is he adapts. When Moss was there they long bombed. When it was Welker & Edelman they wood peckered. When they had Dillon or Blount they ran power. When they had a host of other RBs they went primarily ZBS. OB is reactive to these decisions, not proactive.
Is there a corps of Welker/Edelman/Dillon/Blount on this team?
 

xtruroyaltyx

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Yet despite all of the things you listed the Texans had their best regular season in franchise after the former GM left and Cal hired a GM that was aligned with BOB and magically they had a very good draft despite being hamstrung by the former GM.

What a coincidence.
Is rick’s imprint still on the team or not?

OB didn’t do as good as he could have because ricks bad moves were still here, yet they had their “best regular season” which had nothing to do with Ricks moves still being a factor?
 

infantrycak

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AJ/Foster/OD etc...

You were the one singing the virtues of Walter. not me. I called for un upgrade over him for yrs.
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Which is irrelevant to talent on the team.

And was because you're speed fascinated even when scheme is getting the lowly Walter open.

Face it the oft injured WFV is the best WR2 this team has ever had.
No, Hopkins was.

Is there a corps of Welker/Edelman/Dillon/Blount on this team?
That group didn't play together and more important you totally whiffed on the point - Belichixk adapts to player strengths. OB iss hell bent on imposing a system until desparate.
 

steelbtexan

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Is rick’s imprint still on the team or not?

OB didn’t do as good as he could have because ricks bad moves were still here, yet they had their “best regular season” which had nothing to do with Ricks moves still being a factor?
His imprint is still here. Davenport/Lamm were the OT's and depth was severely lacking with the UDFA's starting at WR. We saw the CB depth lacking and the fact that Gaine was missing his 1st/2nd rd picks definitely means it's still here. The team overachieved last yr.

Good news is Gaine has a chance in this draft to make the footprint alot smaller.
 
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steelbtexan

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Which is irrelevant to talent on the team.

And was because you're speed fascinated even when scheme is getting the lowly Walter open.



No, Hopkins was.



That group didn't play together and more important you totally whiffed on the point - Belichixk adapts to player strengths. OB iss hell bent on imposing a system until desparate.
The points scored are relevent

Schemed Walter open, LOL how many catches were the most Walter caught in a season?

For that 1 season you're correct. The next season AJ on the downside balked at the 40 catch thing and went to Indy where he caught 40 passes.

Yes Welker/Edelman Blount were on the same team. I just used Dillon as another example of the type of talented guy the Texans org doesn't have and would never consider adding to the team.

What do Blount/Dillon/Welker have in common? They all were acquired in traade/FA and BB is back at it today trading for Bennett. BB doesn't rest on SB laurels long does he? This is who the Texans main competition is and until they start doing business like the Pats do then they will never catch up to them. It's also a fallacy that they wont spend $$$$ in FA. (Gilmore)
 

infantrycak

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Schemed Walter open, LOL how many catches were the most Walter caught in a season?
65 for 800 yds with AJ out 7 games.

Or,

60 for 899 yds for Mr. 4.56 s best 2 seasons.

And yes schemed open. You're wilfully blind to deny it. Walter, OD, Putzier (there's some top talent) with not a defender within 5 yds, cameramen losing the ball and the receiver... Now how often does that happen with OB? - virtually nada, without a DB slipping.

Kubiak made slow dudes wide open. OB, and your philosophy, is out athletic them and then take the credit.

Kubiak made a sloth into a WCO QB. OB is trying ro make a natural WCO QB into a sloth. Even his play fakes were worse than last season.

You say Watson is our most valuable asset so do anything to protect him. A coach that understands and schemes for him would protect him more than any LT...and doesn't cost caap or picks. Doesn't have to be OB's head. Maybe Cal can "force" an OC on OB. Otherwise he should leave on the QT without a PC as a non-VIP.
 

thunderkyss

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This multiple offense has never surfaced. Commit to something and be good at it.
Has any kind of offense surfaced? Do we have an offensive identity? Other than Jesus in Cleats?

I do find hope in gaine over rick.
Me too. But... Rick didn't draft a QB. I get that. But he did draft or acquire talent at every position that played well. We've had passing leaders, rushing leaders, pro bowl OL, receiving leaders... until BO'b showed up, then all of a sudden nothing on the OL works. Two 2nd round picks... bust. Get a high dollar FA from KC, play him out of position. Bring in three FAs this season & we've got a hot mess. Back up quality maybe, but they were even worse than they had ever been at anytime in their careers.

I hope BG stacks the OL with talent to overcome our lack of coaching on the offensive side of the ball. But we're always going to fall short of what we could be with just average coaching.

Better talent plus piss poor coaching is not ever going to be as good as better talent plus average coaching.
 

steelbtexan

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65 for 800 yds with AJ out 7 games.

Or,

60 for 899 yds for Mr. 4.56 s best 2 seasons.

And yes schemed open. You're wilfully blind to deny it. Walter, OD, Putzier (there's some top talent) with not a defender within 5 yds, cameramen losing the ball and the receiver... Now how often does that happen with OB? - virtually nada, without a DB slipping.

Kubiak made slow dudes wide open. OB, and your philosophy, is out athletic them and then take the credit.

Kubiak made a sloth into a WCO QB. OB is trying ro make a natural WCO QB into a sloth. Even his play fakes were worse than last season.

You say Watson is our most valuable asset so do anything to protect him. A coach that understands and schemes for him would protect him more than any LT...and doesn't cost caap or picks. Doesn't have to be OB's head. Maybe Cal can "force" an OC on OB. Otherwise he should leave on the QT without a PC as a non-VIP.
Man the GM got Kubiak some really crappy talent to work with. That guy should've been fired a long time ago. Whoever recommended the former GM for the job sure didn't do himself any favors either if that was his idea of a brilliant talent slueth.

Kubiak's nuts must be tasting pretty sweet this morning. Just admit you love Kubes and his peronality and hate BOB and his personality, since they're basically the same HC (Conservative to a fault) and move on. Funny thing is your personality is more like BOB's than Kubes.
 

infantrycak

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Man the GM got Kubiak some really crappy talent to work with. That guy should've been fired a long time ago. Whoever recommended the former GM for the job sure didn't do himself any favors either if that was his idea of a brilliant talent slueth.

Kubiak's nuts must be tasting pretty sweet this morning. Just admit you love Kubes and his peronality and hate BOB and his personality, since they're basically the same HC (Conservative to a fault) and move on. Funny thing is your personality is more like BOB's than Kubes.
Don't know Kubiak, his personality, don't care. Or OB's.

Every team in the league has a few stars and a few scrubs and a lot of in between. Matt Stevens, the shoe stealing wonder, has a SB ring.

The great divide is I think great coaches are those who get the best out of players, who make 6th round centers probowlers, who scheme 7th round WRs open, who have 4th round TEs on record setting pace and making game critical, save the shot at a SB, wide open receptions at 33 years old, who convince a HoF WR to be a decoy for the TEs.

You think there is some magic talent level until finally "they haven't delivered" and someone must be indicted. And then it had to have an evil motive, 'McNair doesn't care about winning, just profit' 'Kubiak cared more about elective surgery' etc.

Bottom line OB runs the worst sh!t show version of E-P ever seen. His arrogance is to change something that can work to make it incoherent.

Kubiak will never be an HC again, by choice. My comments are about system and leadership. I think OB is lacking in both. All you're doing is avoidance by trying to make it a Kubiak thing.

Make a cogent argument Watson would not thrive behind a make every play look the same ZBS coached OL. Not pansy occasional inside zone, full on Gibbs/Shanahan/Kubiak outside zone stretch. Tell me that doesn't suit Watson to a T.

You're Mr. Challenge people to watch film, look at his feet, can't coach to a superbowl...

...when did a Kubiak OL, with sack of sh!t Rick Smith talent, look like 5 guys trying to fu@k one goat?

And one more time for reinforcement, it's not about Kubiak. It's about system & leadership.
 

JB

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Don't know Kubiak, his personality, don't care. Or OB's.
Kubiak ran a much cleaner, easier to understand offense. He's a great offensive mind that learned from some of the best. I think OB is a better leader, but that's yet to be proven as well. OB learned from THE best, but really doesn't have that much experience. Seems he thinks his players can all think as one and think the same he does. Perhaps he needs to dumb down his offense to a few basic plays AND reads until they can execute those few flawlessly ala the Packers sweep of Lombardi.

Hopefully with more talent (I know) and Watson's continued education things will improve.

We have absolutely no choice but to weather the storm. Kubiak ain't coming back , OB ain't going away.

Would be great if you two could move on instead of dominating every thread with the same ole back and forth
 

infantrycak

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Would be great if you two could move on instead of dominating every thread with the same ole back and forth
I really don't mean it to be about Kubiak or OB. They are frames of reference as are Pittsburgh & NE.

Talking about system, or trying to, and I think the WCO with ZBS will get the best from Watson.

So, to confess my Cowboys crimes once more, compare Aikman & Emmitt with Watson & Miller. It's statue & bulldog v scrambler & scatback. Both can work if you don't try to insist they be each other.
 

JB

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I really don't mean it to be about Kubiak or OB. They are frames of reference as are Pittsburgh & NE.

Talking about system, or trying to, and I think the WCO with ZBS will get the best from Watson.

So, to confess my Cowboys crimes once more, compare Aikman & Emmitt with Watson & Miller. It's statue & bulldog v scrambler & scatback. Both can work if you don't try to insist they be each other.
This is true

Let's talk about how Watson (because he is the most important piece, and most likely to change) needs to improve so the entire offense looks better and how Car Smith (thread title anyone?) can make that happen
 

infantrycak

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This is true

Let's talk about how Watson (because he is the most important piece, and most likely to change) needs to improve so the entire offense looks better and how Car Smith (thread title anyone?) can make that happen
Kinda too late. If Cal was going to place a stamp and "force" someone we'd have a legit OC.

But hey, let's go all in on this, make Cushing the WR coach and AJ the LB coach.

Superb Owl!!!
 

JB

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Kinda too late. If Cal was going to place a stamp and "force" someone we'd have a legit OC.

But hey, let's go all in on this, make Cushing the WR coach and AJ the LB coach.

Superb Owl!!!
Geez, is it late night for ya bro? You drumk?
 

steelbtexan

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Don't know Kubiak, his personality, don't care. Or OB's.

Every team in the league has a few stars and a few scrubs and a lot of in between. Matt Stevens, the shoe stealing wonder, has a SB ring.

The great divide is I think great coaches are those who get the best out of players, who make 6th round centers probowlers, who scheme 7th round WRs open, who have 4th round TEs on record setting pace and making game critical, save the shot at a SB, wide open receptions at 33 years old, who convince a HoF WR to be a decoy for the TEs.

You think there is some magic talent level until finally "they haven't delivered" and someone must be indicted. And then it had to have an evil motive, 'McNair doesn't care about winning, just profit' 'Kubiak cared more about elective surgery' etc.

Bottom line OB runs the worst sh!t show version of E-P ever seen. His arrogance is to change something that can work to make it incoherent.

Kubiak will never be an HC again, by choice. My comments are about system and leadership. I think OB is lacking in both. All you're doing is avoidance by trying to make it a Kubiak thing.

Make a cogent argument Watson would not thrive behind a make every play look the same ZBS coached OL. Not pansy occasional inside zone, full on Gibbs/Shanahan/Kubiak outside zone stretch. Tell me that doesn't suit Watson to a T.

You're Mr. Challenge people to watch film, look at his feet, can't coach to a superbowl...

...when did a Kubiak OL, with sack of sh!t Rick Smith talent, look like 5 guys trying to fu@k one goat?

And one more time for reinforcement, it's not about Kubiak. It's about system & leadership.
Apparently you didn't understand the RiHanna comment and me being done with the round and around we go thing you do here and I'm done.

BTW, What was Kubiaks record here? I dont need a comment just numbers.
 

Texansphan

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This is true

Let's talk about how Watson (because he is the most important piece, and most likely to change) needs to improve so the entire offense looks better and how Car Smith (thread title anyone?) can make that happen
One way to prevent a lot of sacks is to get Watson a reliable and dangerous running game. If he and the play caller know he has a better chance at a 3rd down by handing the ball off then that will or should be the play.
A smash mouth run game saves a lot of grief for the QB.
Once the defense respects the run game, the passing game will open up a bit more.
I think Watson is a smart guy and will know by now that he must get the ball out faster and quit holding on to it waiting for the big play - take what the defense gives him.
I have pounded the table for a powerful run game ever since Foster left and we all saw our offense fizzle into a steaming pile of you know what (apart from Nuk) until Watson came along.
Once our offense was reduced to 1 dangerous piece - Nuk, it became simple for coaches to scheme against that with double teaming him and bringing a good pass rush against Watson, who has sticky fingers.
So the Texans FO simply must get Watson:-
#1. - a reliable ground game.
#2. - better protection from his oline.
#3. - a sure handed, big target TE.
Sounds easy, but Texans have a lot of cash in their wallet and plenty of draft picks so I fully expect to see some decisive moves along the lines I suggested.
 
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steelbtexan

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Are you on post two of a three post 'I'm done' rebuild?
LOL

I got goaded into replying to him. I posted that last night and forgot about it this morning.

One thing is for sure Cak/TK love them some barely .500 coaching Kubiak and hate them some barely .500 coaching BOB. LOL
 

thunderkyss

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One thing is for sure Cak/TK love them some barely .500 coaching Kubiak and hate them some barely .500 coaching BOB. LOL
I don't know where you get that from. If BO'b would have brought in an Offensive Coordinator I'd be optimistic about next season.

Had BO'b moved Fulton to Center, Martin to Guard... I'd feel optimistic about next season.

Had BO'b put Mancz at Center, I'd be optimistic about next season.

Had he not tried Rankin at LT week one, I'd have hope for next season.

Getting more talented only makes BO'bs job more difficult & he's yet to prove up to the task.
 

steelbtexan

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I don't know where you get that from. If BO'b would have brought in an Offensive Coordinator I'd be optimistic about next season.

Had BO'b moved Fulton to Center, Martin to Guard... I'd feel optimistic about next season.

Had BO'b put Mancz at Center, I'd be optimistic about next season.

Had he not tried Rankin at LT week one, I'd have hope for next season.

Getting more talented only makes BO'bs job more difficult & he's yet to prove up to the task.
I get where you're coming from, but I notice you didn't mention the Davenport/Lamm part of the OL.

Hopefully that gets upgraded.

I know you blame BOB, but I think Devlin makes the calls on who plays where on the OL and that's an issue. Apparently Devlin thinks Martin is the leader/captain of the OL and that's just a fallacy. IMHO Performance counts and Martin was below avg. IMHO Devlin working out Davenport and thinking he can become a starting LT in the NFL makes me question Devlin's competency more than anything that happened in last seasons lets go with backups in the OL plan.

Hopefully thy fix the OT position this offseason and they should have a best man wins competition for the inside positions.

Cal/Gaine can fix the OT positions if he wants too this offseason, but it's going to take an investment in $$$$$ and draft capital to get the job done.
 
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Texansballer74

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You told me why you think they did it. You who doesn't have the privilege of actually watching them practice the week leading up to the game.

They found out in 30 minutes it was such a bad idea, they did not do it again when they found themselves in the exact same situation a few games later. They found out in those 30 minutes what you already knew.

You would not give Kubiak a pass if he made a similar gaff, I don't understand why BO'b gets so much leniency.

Lol he didn't give Smith and Obrien a chance either. Wasn't they a new regime in the beginning? His hate for Smith wouldn't allow him to give them a shot.
 

Texansballer74

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Yet despite all of the things you listed the Texans had their best regular season in franchise after the former GM left and Cal hired a GM that was aligned with BOB and magically they had a very good draft despite being hamstrung by the former GM.

What a coincidence.

Huh are you telling us that the Texans didn't go 12-4 under Kubiak/Smith as well as beating the Bengals in the 1st round of the playoffs ?
 

steelbtexan

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Huh are you telling us that the Texans didn't go 12-4 under Kubiak/Smith as well as beating the Bengals in the 1st round of the playoffs ?
if you check the post below i corrected myself.

What did those 2 teams have in common? Neither roster was as talented as their record indicated. I mean Kubiak got fired the next season after the wheels fell off again like they did in 2010 when everybody should've been fired.

Same thing could happen to BOB. The roster isn't as good as the teams record.
 

JB

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if you check the post below i corrected myself.

What did those 2 teams have in common? Neither roster was as talented as their record indicated. I mean Kubiak got fired the next season after the wheels fell off again like they did in 2010 when everybody should've been fired.

Same thing could happen to BOB. The roster isn't as good as the teams record.
It only takes 1 of 46 players not doing their job to sabotage a team
 

JB

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Except if that 1 player screws up too much he will be cut.

Excluding the QB.
Unless the team cannot afford to cut him... salary cap and dead money and all that. My point is that it has to be a TEAM and not a collection of individuals. OB has done a pretty good job of that even lacking depth of talent in key areas
 

steelbtexan

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Unless the team cannot afford to cut him... salary cap and dead money and all that. My point is that it has to be a TEAM and not a collection of individuals. OB has done a pretty good job of that even lacking depth of talent in key areas
Agreed, but if a player like AB causes too much trouble he will be traded or cut regardless of the cap.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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I think Davenport will improve on hiss pass protection once Deshaun learns how to scan a field, or at the very least find and hit the usually open TE
Most are taking for granted that will happen, which honestly (although I am strongly hoping he will this season) cannot be considered a given. The truth is, he has yet to show this basic ability after 22 games. Yet many of those same people are not willing to accept that some of our promising newbies who have never had NFL-level coaching and experience can learn to improve on their basic weaknesses. They are now all Texans and deserve our support.
Not sure why people think Watson doesn't scan the field. He spreads the ball around plenty, often to the opposite side. His issue is throwing risky passes IMO
Not sure we were watching the same games.
Bingo. What when he comes out looking left he closes his eyes rotates his head and then throws right? That of course was always the 1st read. Same for any throw around the field, no matter how much head movement, nope not looking around the field, the throw was always to the 1st read
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And WTF with him missing 'all the wide open TEs?'
Not sure we were watching the same games.
The Texans. Seriously his head has all sorts of movement around the field.
It takes more to reading a defense than a head having all sorts of movement around the field like a bobble head. An important part of reading a D is avoiding throwing into dangerous multiple coverage, especially when there are wide open better options elsewhere on the field. Knowing when to throw and when to throw the ball away all go into reading D's. Recognizing stunts and blitz situations are also important. Finally, processing reads too slowly can take even potential good reads and turn them into catastrophes. Watson has shown many positives, although there is no doubt that he has lots of work still left as far as these reading skills.
 

Mr teX

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It takes more to reading a defense than a head having all sorts of movement around the field like a bobble head. An important part of reading a D is avoiding throwing into dangerous multiple coverage, especially when there are wide open better options elsewhere on the field. Knowing when to throw and when to throw the ball away all go into reading D's. Recognizing stunts and blitz situations are also important. Finally, processing reads too slowly can take even potential good reads and turn them into catastrophes. Watson has shown many positives, although there is no doubt that he has lots of work still left as far as these reading skills.
Db’s read head movement moreso than eyes.

Aaron Rodgers has said one of the few things Favre did teach him was the minimization of head movement when scanning the field. Scan the field with your eyes and only turn your head when you have to.....which is basically right before you throw. That’s why u always see those guys looking out of the corner of their eyes pre and post snap.

We already know Watson has at times struggled with picking up the delayed cb blitzes. But he will get better at this with this as he gets more adept at reading defenses.
 
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