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Robert Griffin III could be the Texans next quarterback

There have been a decent number of QBs that have failed at their first stop only to come on with another team and turn into a solid NFL QB. Depending on price, RG3 would absolutely be worth a look. Washington is a train wreck. It'll be interesting to see how long Cousins survives. I'd have zero issue with signing RG3, but I'll still be pissed and sick of this team if we don't draft a QB in the first 2-3 rounds. We HAVE to. And if at first you don't succeed, try and try again. This team will never go anywhere without a QB, and it's time to stop operating like we can be the HOF 85 Bears, 00s Ravens, or 02 Bucs. Those teams had multiple legends on defense; we have Watt. We can be a good, and even great, defense, but we don't hold a candle to those defenses I mentioned.

So sure, sign RG3. But he better not keep us from drafting a QB.
 
Say Watt said:
There have been a decent number of QBs that have failed at their first stop only to come on with another team and turn into a solid NFL QB. Depending on price, RG3 would absolutely be worth a look. Washington is a train wreck. It'll be interesting to see how long Cousins survives. I'd have zero issue with signing RG3, but I'll still be pissed and sick of this team if we don't draft a QB in the first 2-3 rounds. We HAVE to. And if at first you don't succeed, try and try again. This team will never go anywhere without a QB, and it's time to stop operating like we can be the HOF 85 Bears, 00s Ravens, or 02 Bucs. Those teams had multiple legends on defense; we have Watt. We can be a good, and even great, defense, but we don't hold a candle to those defenses I mentioned.

So sure, sign RG3. But he better not keep us from drafting a QB.
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You end up like the Browns when you try, and try and try again for QBs
 
chicagotexan2 said:
When was this again? Not last season. Opposing teams figure out QB's that are one trick pony's. Give me a QB that is dedicated to his craft and can read defenses any day over guys like Kap, Griffin & Young. Cam Newton is killing the league because he can not only run around or over people but he can read a defense just as well or even better. QB's that run and are mobile are great to have, but sooner or later a defender is going to put a hurting on them.
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I don't know, to me it looks like they tried to change him into a pure pocket passer, which he is not. I put most of the blame on the coaches, if you have a skill player let them use it, don't try to make them something they are not.
 
Say Watt said:
There have been a decent number of QBs that have failed at their first stop only to come on with another team and turn into a solid NFL QB. Depending on price, RG3 would absolutely be worth a look. Washington is a train wreck. It'll be interesting to see how long Cousins survives. I'd have zero issue with signing RG3, but I'll still be pissed and sick of this team if we don't draft a QB in the first 2-3 rounds. We HAVE to. And if at first you don't succeed, try and try again. This team will never go anywhere without a QB, and it's time to stop operating like we can be the HOF 85 Bears, 00s Ravens, or 02 Bucs. Those teams had multiple legends on defense; we have Watt. We can be a good, and even great, defense, but we don't hold a candle to those defenses I mentioned.

So sure, sign RG3. But he better not keep us from drafting a QB.
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"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
 
PHILLYTEXANFAN said:
You end up like the Browns when you try, and try and try again for QBs
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Using the league's biggest dumpster fire as an example is like trying to make a rule of an anomaly. They may be the only blind squirrel to never find a nut, and it has nothing to do with the fact that they try but with how poorly they manage themselves in all facets.

Instead you could just as easily use Oakland, Tennessee, Tampa, or even Jacksonville as examples of teams who look pretty happy with who they've got now after going back to the well just a couple or so times.
 
Looking at the free agents list I really think we will try and resign

Tj Yates
And
Weeden

Unless they like mcgloin keenum or I dare say it schaub

Or the what ifs Bree's or manning but that's really up to them

Either way our qb room will be crowded if we want it to be going into tc

Hoyer
Yates
Weeden
Savage
Draft qb...????
 
Norg said:
Looking at the free agents list I really think we will try and resign

Tj Yates
And
Weeden

Unless they like mcgloin keenum or I dare say it schaub

Or the what ifs Bree's or manning but that's really up to them

Either way our qb room will be crowded if we want it to be going into tc

Hoyer
Yates
Weeden
Savage
Draft qb...????
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FYI, only Hoyer and Savage are under Contract next year. Yates, Weedon and Daniels are only signed to the end of the season.
 
JB said:
yeah maybe it would... after another couple drinks I still don't see your sarcasm... looked like you were taking a shot to me

Happy holidays to you and yours also
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Nah, I have no reason to take a shot. Unless it was at OB for this circus act at the QB position this year. 30 minutes until Christmas here in London and we had a great time tonight trying to keep our Texas traditions alive and well. Cheers to all!
 
I'm totally onboard the Brees train if he's available and it's not a crippling signing. I realize he is now long in the tooth, but I think he can still play at a general 'plus average' level for 1-3 more years - meanwhile you draft a QB and let him sit and watch Brees work, both on and off the field ala Rogers/Favre. Meanwhile, you can win with Brees and if he gets hurt you bring in the youngster and see what you've got.

Weeden looks like a good number 3 or possibly two in the rookies opening year. OR possibly Savage. I think we have seen the last of Hoyer...just a guess.

To me that is the ideal scenerio.

I believe that Cousins is also going to be a FA but I'm guessing the Skins are going to lock him up. But I'd be interested in him as a long term solution if available.
 
Porky said:
I'm totally onboard the Brees train if he's available and it's not a crippling signing. I realize he is now long in the tooth, but I think he can still play at a general 'plus average' level for 1-3 more years - meanwhile you draft a QB and let him sit and watch Brees work, both on and off the field ala Rogers/Favre. Meanwhile, you can win with Brees and if he gets hurt you bring in the youngster and see what you've got.


Weeden looks like a good number 3 or possibly two in the rookies opening year. OR possibly Savage. I think we have seen the last of Hoyer...just a guess.




To me that is the ideal scenerio.

I believe that Cousins is also going to be a FA but I'm guessing the Skins are going to lock him up. But I'd be interested in him as a long term solution if available.
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If hoyer wins a,playoff game or two he's,not going anywhere
 
Our fortune with FAs long of tooth concerns me greatly. As fast as we have QBs going out of game, maybe we should sign every one we can. My sources tell me we will send our QBs to Astros this off season to learn sliding.
 
Norg said:
If hoyer wins a,playoff game or two he's,not going anywhere
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If he wins 2 play off games I will change my profile pic to the Cowboys logo for the entire off season.....I will vomit everytime I get onto texans talk if that happens !
 
Brisco_County said:
Kaepernick and RG3 are known values. Savage is 2 for 2 seasons on IR.

So basically you'd rather put all your chips on a weak hand instead of drawing from the deck.
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I don't think Savage was really IR hurt this year as much as he was roster spot IR'd w 4-6 "shoulder sprain".
 
If RG3 is healthy BIG IF ... he is a unique NFL QB. He gets a bad rap, but a lot of people forget he was thrust back into playing when his knee was nowhere near ready. Re-injured. Came back and just wasn't the same, short leash and finally the dog house in WAS. Super mobile, cannon arm. Smart. What do you really have to lose? I'd rather rekindle magic with a younger player than to hope an older player will continue to play at a high level, coming off an injury (Bree's) AND assuming the other team will even listen to your offer considering that player would be a hot commodity.

Texas kid, nice story. If anything the name recognition alone would boost competition at the position in camp.
 
Uncle Rico said:
If RG3 is healthy BIG IF ... he is a unique NFL QB. He gets a bad rap, but a lot of people forget he was thrust back into playing when his knee was nowhere near ready. Re-injured. Came back and just wasn't the same, short leash and finally the dog house in WAS. Super mobile, cannon arm. Smart. What do you really have to lose? I'd rather rekindle magic with a younger player than to hope an older player will continue to play at a high level, coming off an injury (Bree's) AND assuming the other team will even listen to your offer considering that player would be a hot commodity.

Texas kid, nice story. If anything the name recognition alone would boost competition at the position in camp.
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I'd like him for the minimum. Sit, learn, don't ruffle feathers. At this point he should be looking for the best place to succeed long term and not the most money.
 
What about Peyton Manning? Kubiak reportedly didn't want him when he wanted to come to Houston & now he's stuck with him in Denver. Kubiak has forced Manning to change his game to adapt to his offense & as a result, Manning's usual stats are way down. It's my opinion that, if Osweiler continues to do well, Manning could be waived in the off season due to his massive salary. Assuming Manning is healed for next season & clears waivers, would you entertain the idea of signing him for a couple of years to run the offense while Savage is groomed under him? Would Manning fit in this style of offense? I think he would. He's getting towards the end of his career, but in the previous couple of years, he showed he's still got some game left. If we can keep him upright (meaning we need to upgrade RT), I think he would be productive again in this offense. Anyone agree or disagree?
 
Manning dang near help Denver rack off 7 wins right off the back so who knows he is still winning doubt he will come here tho
 
Yall think this season would Be any different if Mallet was the starting QB for all 16 games ..????
 
If we bring in rg3 as anything other than a backup in no longer watching this team. Ditto on kaep. This teams defensive window is closing but we need a QB without an attitide
 
Even starving I do not want to look at liver on my plate let alone...

yeah I know liver can be "fixed up" but it still taste bad.
 
Norg said:
Yall think this season would Be any different if Mallet was the starting QB for all 16 games ..????
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I have some opinions on that. There were no whisperings of Mallett showing up late to practice or missing flights when he was in NE, & you know Belichick wouldn't have tolerated it for very long. That makes me think it was started here. I believe signing Hoyer to a starting salary contract after trading for Mallett affected him some how. Sure, he should've been man enough to deal with it, but it looks like he wasn't. Then you have Bill playing musical chairs at the QB position & you had to expect that something was going to happen. If you watched the two QB's interaction on the sidelines when one or the other did something good on the field, neither one of them went up to the other to congratulate him. They both seemed to be pouting to me, but Mallett ended up being the child of the two & was eventually let go. As for your original question, yes, I do think the season would've been different if Mallett had started from the beginning & not been worried about looking over his shoulder the whole time. This whole situation was handled wrong from the beginning & throughout the season until he was released. I did see that Mallett had a great game today for Baltimore though.
 
Hottoddie said:
I have some opinions on that. .

I believe signing Hoyer to a starting salary contract after trading for Mallett affected him some how. Sure, he should've been man enough to deal with it, but it looks like he wasn't.
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After some of the childish things Mallett did here, I don't care to defend him. But it does appear to me that it was well known that OB wanted Hoyer to start from day one. Maybe after Hoyer was yanked in week one, Mallett let it go to his head & started acting a certain way...... who knows. But I can see how it wasn't a good situation for him.

He's gone, I'm fine with that. I doubt he'll be a franchise QB anywhere. But I still believe he could have been the solid starter we need to hold us over till we find our guy. Without that solid starter, the pressure is on.

We could be 6-9 right now with Eli Manning & our fans would be much happier about our future than we are now at 8-7 without a QB.
 
Hottoddie said:
I have some opinions on that. There were no whisperings of Mallett showing up late to practice or missing flights when he was in NE, & you know Belichick wouldn't have tolerated it for very long. That makes me think it was started here. I believe signing Hoyer to a starting salary contract after trading for Mallett affected him some how. Sure, he should've been man enough to deal with it, but it looks like he wasn't. Then you have Bill playing musical chairs at the QB position & you had to expect that something was going to happen. If you watched the two QB's interaction on the sidelines when one or the other did something good on the field, neither one of them went up to the other to congratulate him. They both seemed to be pouting to me, but Mallett ended up being the child of the two & was eventually let go. As for your original question, yes, I do think the season would've been different if Mallett had started from the beginning & not been worried about looking over his shoulder the whole time. This whole situation was handled wrong from the beginning & throughout the season until he was released. I did see that Mallett had a great game today for Baltimore though.
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If memory serves me, and that is highly suspect these days, Mallett signed AFTER Hoyer so he knew what he was getting.
 
Marshall said:
If memory serves me, and that is highly suspect these days, Mallett signed AFTER Hoyer so he knew what he was getting.
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The Texans extended Mallett's contract on March 10th, and traded Fitz and signed Hoyer on March 11th
 
[QUOTE="Hottoddie, post: 2563234, member: 262]I did see that Mallett had a great game today for Baltimore though.[/QUOTE]

:shrug: So did Fitzpatrick.

That still isn't going to keep "us" from not getting excited until some young unproven 'franchise' QB is taken high in the draft. Then you can look forward to the never ending red ass that "they didn't take who I wanted."
 
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JB said:
The Texans extended Mallett's contract on March 10th, and traded Fitz and signed Hoyer on March 11th
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They were both FA signings but yes Mallett signed 1st. And damn wouldn't you like to know what he was told about Hoyer before doing so since he had a higher offer from the Jets?
 
Marcus said:
Hottoddie said:
I did see that Mallett had a great game today for Baltimore though.
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:shrug: So did Fitzpatrick.

That still isn't going to keep "us" from not getting excited until some young unproven 'franchise' QB is taken high in the draft. Then you can look forward to the never ending red ass that "they didn't take who I wanted."
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Psshh.... I think the point is that we kept Hoyer, not Fitz, not Mallett. That must mean he is better than both of them.

Don't need to draft no stink'n QB.
 
there are much worse things i read on this board than taking a shot on a 26 year old QB drafted 1.2 that we have at least seen play good NFL QB. as long as he is not brought in as savior/ presumed starter and has to prove that both his knee and ego are in check, there might not be a better upside play available. Like most of these ideas, it is about the combination of investment and expectation for me.
 
With our offensive line, and RGIII's propensity to run out of the pocket frequently,
we could see "all new" ways for a human leg to be twisted, mangled, torqued,
and pretzeled..
 
Hottoddie said:
I have some opinions on that. There were no whisperings of Mallett showing up late to practice or missing flights when he was in NE, & you know Belichick wouldn't have tolerated it for very long. That makes me think it was started here. I believe signing Hoyer to a starting salary contract after trading for Mallett affected him some how. Sure, he should've been man enough to deal with it, but it looks like he wasn't. Then you have Bill playing musical chairs at the QB position & you had to expect that something was going to happen. If you watched the two QB's interaction on the sidelines when one or the other did something good on the field, neither one of them went up to the other to congratulate him. They both seemed to be pouting to me, but Mallett ended up being the child of the two & was eventually let go. As for your original question, yes, I do think the season would've been different if Mallett had started from the beginning & not been worried about looking over his shoulder the whole time. This whole situation was handled wrong from the beginning & throughout the season until he was released. I did see that Mallett had a great game today for Baltimore though.
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Agree.....The first half of our season was completely botched by Obrien and the only reason we're where we are now is because A.Luck has been injured
 
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