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Texians POST Combine Mock Draft

Oregon's Jake Fisher made some money with stellar pro day

By Gil Brandt
NFL Media senior analyst
Published: March 12, 2015 at 06:45 p.m.
Updated: March 12, 2015 at 07:40 p.m.
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A total of 14 players worked out indoors on FieldTurf. While offensive tackle Jake Fisher helped himself as much as anybody so far at this year's pro days, quarterback Marcus Mariota eased some concerns about his ability to operate under center.

Fisher (6-foot-6 3/4, 308 pounds) has 33 1/2-inch arms and 10 3/8-inch hands. Fisher stood on his numbers from the NFL Scouting Combine, where he had the best time among offensive linemen in the three-cone drill and 20-yard short shuttle, and was a top performer in his position group in the 40-yard dash and vertical jump. Fisher is an unbelievably good athlete -- he was a high school tight end -- and was very impressive at the pro day. Fisher made some money Thursday.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...e-fisher-made-some-money-with-stellar-pro-day

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Mariota did well but guy who really made lots of $$ today was OT Jake Fisher. Ultra-athletic. Moves around like pt guard. Possible 1st round
5:11 PM - 12 Mar 2015
 
People wonder why we didn't dump AJ last year as opposed to this year when it would've made more sense from a cap perspective...I'm convinced that at least part of the decision to go ahead and do it this year was due to the depth at WR in the draft. Seeing as how we haven't really addressed the gaping hole there (at the moment anyway) I'm convinced that's where they try to go in the 1st this year with the possibility of either White, Cooper or Parker dropping to them at 16. Big drop off after those 3 imo.

The defense was lights out and began to gel towards the end in 2014 & i just think with the offense being sluggish at times last year I feel BoB doesn't think he can afford to wait any longer on adding "his" type of skill guys out there; after all that is his side of the ball. I think with them releasing Myers & resigning Newton, they feel comfortable with the guys they already have on the o-line since all have been in the system for 1 year and have a decent amount of snaps under their belt. They're expecting X to make a big leap as well.

If the top 3 WR's are all gone, i think they'll seek to fortify the defense even more with someone Erik Kendricks or Jalen Collins and pick up 1 of the 2nd teir WR's in the 2nd. This allows them to begin grooming Cush/J-Jo's replacement with a younger more athletic guys.
 
Mr teX said:
People wonder why we didn't dump AJ last year as opposed to this year when it would've made more sense from a cap perspective...I'm convinced that at least part of the decision to go ahead and do it this year was due to the depth at WR in the draft.
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The reason that AJ was not traded last year can be directly attributed to the comments made by Bob McNair at the Kubiak firing PC. McNair said and even repeated himself that 2014 was not a rebuilding year. McNair also stated and steadfastly believed that the Texans were a playoff caliber team with a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl. At the time he was also under the bit of an illusion that Kase Keenum was going to be his QB of the future.

Had cooler heads prevailed and Bob faced the reality that he a new coach, aging veterans, a bloated salary cap, less than average drafts he could have cleaned house and started over. To no avail and now McNair finds himself a year behind, he needs to rebuild, the better competition is further away and the lesser competition is a lot closer than they were.

BTW, last year I had Donte Moncrief going to the Texans in RD3. Sometimes Bob McNair can be his own worst enemy.
 
Texian said:
The reason that AJ was not traded last year can be directly attributed to the comments made by Bob McNair at the Kubiak firing PC. McNair said and even repeated himself that 2014 was not a rebuilding year. McNair also stated and steadfastly believed that the Texans were a playoff caliber team with a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl. At the time he was also under the bit of an illusion that Kase Keenum was going to be his QB of the future.

Had cooler heads prevailed and Bob faced the reality that he a new coach, aging veterans, a bloated salary cap, less than average drafts he could have cleaned house and started over. To no avail and now McNair finds himself a year behind, he needs to rebuild, the better competition is further away and the lesser competition is a lot closer than they were.

BTW, last year I had Donte Moncrief going to the Texans in RD3. Sometimes Bob McNair can be his own worst enemy.
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I totally agree with this post and really wanted Moncrief too. They chose not to look to the future only at the present. Meanwhile the Colts pick Moncrief to replace Wayne. You called this before last yrs draft.

To defend the Texans a bit, the Texans were a mess and all of the holes couldn't be filled in 1 draft. I want to believe they looked ahead to the 2015 draft and said the 2015 draft is loaded in WR's too, lets fill other holes in 2014, try to milk 1 more yr out of AJ and fill the WR needs in the 2015 draft after the cut AJ.

I believe AJ saw the writing on the wall and played the I'm the face of the franchise card asking for the last 2 yrs of his contract to be guaranteed. McNair told him to come to TC and they would talk about AJ remaining a Texan for life. Apparently McNair and AJ had different versions of what being a Texan for life meant.
 
Well I did say the release of AJ this year was at least in part due to the 2015 talent at WR in this draft but we'll never know. You 2 guys are the 2 leading candidates when it comes to blaming McNair for everything that happens with this franchise so I shouldn't be surprised by your takes; and to a certain extent, I don't doubt that some of what you guys lambast him for are true.

At the end of the day however, we'll never know. I'm sure McNair desperately wanted AJ to retire as a Texan and probably did believe it at the time he said it.
 
Mr teX said:
Well I did say the release of AJ this year was at least in part due to the 2015 talent at WR in this draft but we'll never know. You 2 guys are the 2 leading candidates when it comes to blaming McNair for everything that happens with this franchise so I shouldn't be surprised by your takes; and to a certain extent, I don't doubt that some of what you guys lambast him for are true.

At the end of the day however, we'll never know. I'm sure McNair desperately wanted AJ to retire as a Texan and probably did believe it at the time he said it.
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Have a listen for yourself, keep an open mind. I don't make stuff up, I just report what I hear and see. You be the judge: http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-med...-change-/65d31e5b-fc1a-41f0-8196-c904327b706c
 
PapaL said:
Weren't you the one that would ridicule people for using Bleacher as a source? Any idiot can write an article for bleacher...something like that. How the times have changed.
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Yes I did. Thanks for remembering. source is your interpretation, so is ridicule, basically I said Bleacher Report was an amateur publication at best. How do I know, because BR has approached me on two different occasions to write for BR and I can assure you that I have NO journalism skills or qualifications whatsoever and was barely an average English student to boot. I declined both invites because I felt I didn't have the necessary tools.

However some people like BR and most all media outlets so I post for those readers. I only really listen to Mike Mayock and Greg Cosell because they actually put in the time, watch hours of tape, talk to the coaches, call personnel and don't pilfer and still from others lists and notes. I also respect the opinion of people like Gil Brandt. Almost all other I consider noise and a distraction. If I just posted info from those 3 I wouldn't have much to post. But thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow and please keep reading. :)
 
Texian said:
Yes I did. Thanks for remembering. source is your interpretation, so is ridicule, basically I said Bleacher Report was an amateur publication at best. How do I know, because BR has approached me on two different occasions to write for BR and I can assure you that I have NO journalism skills or qualifications whatsoever and was barely an average English student to boot. I declined both invites because I felt I didn't have the necessary tools.

However some people like BR and most all media outlets so I post for those readers. I only really listen to Mike Mayock and Greg Cosell because they actually put in the time, watch hours of tape, talk to the coaches, call personnel and don't pilfer and still from others lists and notes. I also respect the opinion of people like Gil Brandt. Almost all other I consider noise and a distraction. If I just posted info from those 3 I wouldn't have much to post. But thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow and please keep reading. :)
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here, here :lol:

Actually anyone who puts in the time, draft related like you, is all good in my book. PS I'm a big Cosell follower, Mayock not so much, I prefer Charles.
 
beerlover said:
here, here :lol:

Actually anyone who puts in the time, draft related like you, is all good in my book. PS I'm a big Cosell follower, Mayock not so much, I prefer Charles.
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I appreciate the effort as well. But I prefer the guys who do the work but don't come across as know it all ass holes. They understand it's an opinion & like ass holes everyone has one & they all stink.

They are so caught up in there little fantasy world that every decision made contrary to their opinion is a slap in the face. You'd think Rick Smith had molested steelb & McNair teabaged Texian The way they go on & on as if they knew how to operate an NFL franchise.
 
thunderkyss said:
I appreciate the effort as well. But I prefer the guys who do the work but don't come across as know it all ass holes. They understand it's an opinion & like ass holes everyone has one & they all stink.

They are so caught up in there little fantasy world that every decision made contrary to their opinion is a slap in the face. You'd think Rick Smith had molested steelb & McNair teabaged Texian The way they go on & on as if they knew how to operate an NFL franchise.
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I never said that I knew how to run a franchise. It's not just Smith's personnel decisions I take issue with. I don't like him because he threw Kubiak under the bus to save his own job.
 
steelbtexan said:
I never said that I knew how to run a franchise. It's not just Smith's personnel decisions I take issue with. I don't like him because he threw Kubiak under the bus to save his own job.
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PS. I've stopped a lot of my Smith talk, because the regulars know how I feel about him.
 
steelbtexan said:
I never said that I knew how to run a franchise. It's not just Smith's personnel decisions I take issue with. I don't like him because he threw Kubiak under the bus to save his own job.
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I don't like that either particularly but I'd bet McNair sat down with both of them and let them have at what changes were necessary. And I'd bet both said some version of mistakes have been made from personnel to game day and then lay most of them on the other and bad luck. For example I believe Kubiak wanted to keep Schaub but wasn't in favor of the contract he was givin. McNair bought what Smith sold.

Interesting to ponder - if you could only get rid of one, which would you have kept?
 
infantrycak said:
Interesting to ponder - if you could only get rid of one, which would you have kept?
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I would have kept Smith. Not that he had done such a stellar job. It's because a head coach has more impact. And I felt that a new head coach could reverse the direction of the team.

But if I had been McNair...I would have dumped both.
 
Lucky said:
I would have kept Smith. Not that he had done such a stellar job. It's because a head coach has more impact. And I felt that a new head coach could reverse the direction of the team.

But if I had been McNair...I would have dumped both.
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I agree with your pick. Somehow, somewhen, Kubiak lost the locker room. When that happens to a HC, he gotz to go.

As long as the new HC picks his own players (and I agree with Parcells, that's the way it should be) and Smith is relegated to the guy gets exactly who HC specifies.

Also Smith has shown a skill to get the players Kubiak specified while picking up additional draft picks along the way. That's got to worth something. I just wouldn't have him doing the cap stuff - and I don't think he does.
 
infantrycak said:
I don't like that either particularly but I'd bet McNair sat down with both of them and let them have at what changes were necessary. And I'd bet both said some version of mistakes have been made from personnel to game day and then lay most of them on the other and bad luck. For example I believe Kubiak wanted to keep Schaub but wasn't in favor of the contract he was givin. McNair bought what Smith sold.

Interesting to ponder - if you could only get rid of one, which would you have kept?
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Smith without a doubt, although Smith was Kubiak's handpicked guy so he should have been part of the package deal firings. That didn't happen because of Smith's backroom politicking with Cal McNair. (The reason Smith won out) This is speculation on my part but these kinds of things happen when things go wrong in corporate settings. I understand why, but it sickens me.

As you know I wasn't one of Kubiak's greatest fans. But he was a fine man who did his best and adding another fine man in Wade gave them a good chance to be playoff contenders regularly provided he found another QB. I think that could've happened and Kubiak did a great job coaching up Schaub. I'm sure he could've found a new QB and coached him up likewise. The thing I didn't like about Kubiak was his inflexible gameplans and that's why I didn't think the Texans could ever win a SB with Kubiak.

I wonder if it was Smith's idea to extend Schaub? I guess it really doesn't matter we (the fans) are stuck with him. Hopefully BOB (Who I think is an upgrade) and Gaine start running the Texans org.
 
steelbtexan said:
I wonder if it was Smith's idea to extend Schaub?
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I'd bet Schaub's agent opened that can.

I wonder what kind of medical advice he was given regarding Schaub's lisfranc? I suspect had Dr CND been there instead of the guy who paid to be the team physician different options would have been considered.
 
steelbtexan said:
I never said that I knew how to run a franchise. It's not just Smith's personnel decisions I take issue with. I don't like him because he threw Kubiak under the bus to save his own job.
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Oh you didn't like Smith long before he threw Kubiak under the bus...
 
Playoffs said:
I'd bet Schaub's agent opened that can.

I wonder what kind of medical advice he was given regarding Schaub's lisfranc? I suspect had Dr CND been there instead of the guy who paid to be the team physician different options would have been considered.
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Wait... What??
the guy is paying the Texans to be on staff??
I don't understand. Explain please.
 
JB said:
Oh you didn't like Smith long before he threw Kubiak under the bus...
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Nope, I thought he was an inept yes man. But I didn't personally dislike him.

After the Kubiak ordeal Smith confirmed my suspicions of he is what I think he is.

I'm going to pass on speaking about Smith because it doesn't matter what you/I think about Smith. All that matters in the Texans org is how does Cal McNairs a** taste. I do like how BOB circumvented the power structure to let AJ leave. (This is what AJ wanted)
 
thunderkyss said:
I appreciate the effort as well. But I prefer the guys who do the work but don't come across as know it all ass holes. They understand it's an opinion & like ass holes everyone has one & they all stink.

They are so caught up in there little fantasy world that every decision made contrary to their opinion is a slap in the face. You'd think Rick Smith had molested steelb & McNair teabaged Texian The way they go on & on as if they knew how to operate an NFL franchise.
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Have you smelt ALL of them? Then I wouldn't be so quick to judge. Medical science has come a long way in developing products to kill the bacteria that causes ass holes to stink. And of course there is bleaching.
 
To get this thread back on track:

1) Fisher - Like him, but not at #16 and not to the Texans. Probably a better fit in Kubiak's offense in Denver.
2) Bennett - Like him, but as a 3 technique, not a 5. Not a good fit here.
3) Shaw - Like the pick. Can play CB and maybe FS. He's a guy who can get on the field early in his career and work towards a starting job.
4) Montgomery - Like the pick. Can return and play on the 3rd down. A lot of upside for a 4th round pick.
5) Emanuel - Like the pick. I don't know what position he would end up at. But, he's the kind of player (athletic, productive) that you want to take a chance on on the 3rd day.
6) Varga - Like the pick. Very versatile, and a good athlete. Could get on the field immediately on special teams and work his way into sub packages.

Overall, very solid talent. At the top, not good fits for what the Texans are trying to do. Shaw may have some red flags over the suspension this season. If his story checks out (he wasn't charged), it shouldn't keep him off the Texans board.
 
steelbtexan said:
I wonder if it was Smith's idea to extend Schaub?
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More than likely that was a Bob McNair decision. When it comes to check writing decisions the final decision is McNair's. McNair has shown a propensity to agree to 2nd contracts much earlier than required.
 
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1. Jake Fisher, OT - simply because he will be the BPA. Drafting BPA will make you a better team than filling holes. Filling holes is a step from BPA.

2. Xavier Cooper, DE, Washington State
3. Ronald Darby, CB, FSU
4. Darren Waller, WR, 6'6", 238, Ga Tech
5. Kyle Emanuel, ILB, NDSU
6. Tyler Varga, RB, Yale
7. Shane Carden, QB, ECU - until Texans fix their QB you have to draft a QB every year.
 
Texian said:
***Revised***

1. Jake Fisher, OT - simply because he will be the BPA. Drafting BPA will make you a better team than filling holes. Filling holes is a step from BPA.

2. Xavier Cooper, DE, Washington State
3. Ronald Darby, CB, FSU
4. Darren Waller, WR, 6'6", 238, Ga Tech
5. Kyle Emanuel, ILB, NDSU
6. Tyler Varga, RB, Yale
7. Shane Carden, QB, ECU - until Texans fix their QB you have to draft a QB every year.
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Fisher, definitely won't be the BPA when we pick. He may end up being a great playèr eventually but there are other players better and more ready to play NOW than him. He wouldn't even start here.

And as far as drafting a QB every year, that is a wasted pick if he can't even make it out of camp. If you are going to with that then you better draft one before the 7 round.

I like your 5th round pick. That guy is balls out every play.
 
mussop said:
Fisher, definitely won't be the BPA when we pick. He may end up being a great playèr eventually but there are other players better and more ready to play NOW than him. He wouldn't even start here.

And as far as drafting a QB every year, that is a wasted pick if he can't even make it out of camp. If you are going to with that then you better draft one before the 7 round.

I like your 5th round pick. That guy is balls out every play.
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We'll have to disagree on this one as I think Fisher could go to as many pro bowls if not more than anyone in this draft class.

Waller could be this draft's #1 sleeper.
 
Texian said:
We'll have to disagree on this one as I think Fisher could go to as many pro bowls if not more than anyone in this draft class.

Waller could be this draft's #1 sleeper.
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I said 5th round. Emanuel. I actually haven't watched any of walkers games. I will check him out.
 
Just watched GT vs Miss ST..WOW that dude moves well for a guy his size. He looks way more agile than Funches. Runs really well. Like the way he gets both feet in bounds on sideline catches. I could see him putting on 15 to 20 pounds and becoming a really good TE. Needs to work on his blocking though. will look for more games of his to watch.
 
mussop said:
Just watched GT vs Miss ST..WOW that dude moves well for a guy his size. He looks way more agile than Funches. Runs really well. Like the way he gets both feet in bounds on sideline catches. I could see him putting on 15 to 20 pounds and becoming a really good TE. Needs to work on his blocking though. will look for more games of his to watch.
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I think the secret with Waller is he played on team that runs the ball 90% of the time and his QB was awful when it came to the passing game. Waller could be much better than is his tape. A diamond in the rough. Reports from his Pro Day day is he ran excellent routes, has soft hands and made some rather spectacular catches. Georgia Tech has produced some top notch recievers, Megatron and Demaryius Thomas.

Brandt: Georgia Tech's Darren Waller could be 2015 draft steal; http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...techs-darren-waller-could-be-2015-draft-steal
 
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