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Ill Say It. Reed Looks Like Crap

Season stats:

Ed Reed, 3 games, 3 starts, 8 tackles, 0 pdef, 0 int., 0 fumble rec.
5 mil a yr. avg. salary, plus the cost of hip surgery but not sure who pays for that.

Glover Quin, 5 games, 5 starts, 21 tackles, 4 pdef, 2 int. for 57 yds., 1 fumble rec.
4.7 mil a yr. avg. salary, younger healthier experienced productive and cheaper.
 
I looked for Reed to bring veteran leadership back there against the big boy QBand be a mentor for swearinger. That was about it and so far I am not seeing much
 
Definitely not putting the blame solely on him, but one incredible stat that I can't get out of my mind is this: Reed has played in 3 games for the Texans, and all 3 were losses for the Texans.
 
Wolf6151 said:
Season stats:

Ed Reed, 3 games, 3 starts, 8 tackles, 0 pdef, 0 int., 0 fumble rec.
5 mil a yr. avg. salary, plus the cost of hip surgery but not sure who pays for that.

Glover Quin, 5 games, 5 starts, 21 tackles, 4 pdef, 2 int. for 57 yds., 1 fumble rec.
4.7 mil a yr. avg. salary, younger healthier experienced productive and cheaper.
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Eh, you're kind of leaving out the fact he has only been thrown at one time. Kind of hard to get any passes defended if they don't throw at you enough. Can't really hold that against him. He's just basically...out there.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Fwiw

tania ganguli ‏@taniaganguli 6m
kubiak says the vernon davis touchdown was not ed reed's responsibility. Had a bust in coverage. #texans
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This is the same guy who defended Schaub at halftime and threw the defense under the bus. His words aren't worth a damn. If Wade says it then I'll believe it.
 
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The Texans' defense is only giving up 17 points a game without the help from Schaub and the ST. If Ed Reed (who is playing like what you'd expect from a 35 year old player of his caliber) was our biggest problem, this would be a different season.
 
IlliniJen said:
There is zero indication that they even sniffed in Manning's direction. Kubiak is a control-freak on offense, and given that Manning is a self-sustaining, self-aware QB robot who can break down defenses, audible, and call his own plays in the huddle, he was not a good fit for Gary's ego. OFFENSE, I mean offense. Right.
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There is, however, evidence that Manning was interested in the Texans. LINK

I was one of the guys that wasn't the least bit interested in Manning. :smiliepalm: and I've been kicking myself in the ass since around week 12 of last year.

As far as Ed Reed is concerned, hand him a ball cap and a clipboard and let him provide leadership from the sideline and usher him into the coaching phase of his career.
 
ALERT: The Texans Rick Smith will announce this afternoon that the Texans have signed and decided to go next game with a free agent free safety. The move is expected to significantly upgrade the centerfield secondary.





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CloakNNNdagger said:
ALERT: The Texans Rick Smith will announce this afternoon that the Texans have signed and decided to go next game with a free agent free safety. The move is expected to significantly upgrade the centerfield secondary.





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Good call, try jumping over him!! :)
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
ALERT: The Texans Rick Smith will announce this afternoon that the Texans have signed and decided to go next game with a free agent free safety. The move is expected to significantly upgrade the centerfield secondary.





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He has something other texans players don't have outside old legs that's a super bowl ring. Can't make fun of that fact but Ed can make fun of good ol Bob for signing him to millions at his current state. Oh wait a minute texans fans lets throw the shots at the people that are making these dumb decisions... can't blame a washed up player for wanting to get paid whiling playing.
 
Ed Reed was a mistake before the Texans signed him. This became crystal clear when Baltimore showed no real desire and made no effort to re-sign Ed. #AnotherSmubiakFail
 
Yeahhh, could we return Ed back to Baltimore and get half of the money back?

Rick got straight swindled.
 
Edward was probably going to retire but I can't blame him for taking free money. I'm assuming that was Bob's decision to sign Edward but it of course back-fired like most times owners make personnel decisions. Let's hope he learns from that and stops trying to have us sign washed-up old men from now on. If he wanted us to watch a broken-down senior citizen struggle and get burned in the secondary he could've put a uniform on himself for a game or something.
 
TheIronDuke said:
Edward was probably going to retire but I can't blame him for taking free money. I'm assuming that was Bob's decision to sign Edward but it of course back-fired like most times owners make personnel decisions. Let's hope he learns from that and stops trying to have us sign washed-up old men from now on. If he wanted us to watch a broken-down senior citizen struggle and get burned in the secondary he could've put a uniform on himself for a game or something.
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It never ceases to amaze me,

How does nothing ever stick to teflon Rick?
 
it happens so rarely that it's hard for me to admit, but i was wrong.
*gasp!* *shock!*

i know, i know. i thought reed, despite being a one legged dinosaur, would be the answer against teams going downfield against us. he's not. he's not an answer to anything but "who just tricked the texans into a fat retirement payday?". we still have denver and new england on the schedule, the two teams i wanted us to sign reed for, so i may pretend i didnt post this if some miracle happens. as of right now though ... come back glover quin!!!
 
thetexanator said:
saw on the news this week some reporter actually had the balls to ask him about his poor play. he said qb's dont throw his way.
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Ed's coverage is so bad that it just seems like the QB isn't throwing his way. In fact, his man is so far gone the QB doesn't need to throw anywhere near him.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Instincts? His instincts now just plain stink.


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Good stuff..... I know it looks really bad, but in that situation I have to believe that's what they are "supposed" to do. Not get fooled by the QB, but play off the run action. The LBs & Safeties in that situation should be reading the FB & RB.... that's what they do there.

In this case, Joe Mays is reading the RB, he should have shot that gap created by McClain taking that jab step to his right. He would have been on top of Charles, instead of getting washed out by the FB. He'd have seen Charles didn't have the ball & attacked the QB.

Reed is watching Charles as well. How's he supposed to know Mercilus was going to play patty cake with him? Had Reed played that gap, Charles would have scored a TD & we'd be blaming Reed anyway.

The big fail on this play, imo, is that Mercilus is playing soft. He should have attacked Smith. If he'd have pinned his ears back, Smith would have been sacked at the time he faked the phantom hand off.

The whole left side of that play....... smh. :wadepalm:
 
thunderkyss said:
Good stuff..... I know it looks really bad, but in that situation I have to believe that's what they are "supposed" to do. Not get fooled by the QB, but play off the run action. The LBs & Safeties in that situation should be reading the FB & RB.... that's what they do there.

In this case, Joe Mays is reading the RB, he should have shot that gap created by McClain taking that jab step to his right. He would have been on top of Charles, instead of getting washed out by the FB. He'd have seen Charles didn't have the ball & attacked the QB.

Reed is watching Charles as well. How's he supposed to know Mercilus was going to play patty cake with him? Had Reed played that gap, Charles would have scored a TD & we'd be blaming Reed anyway.

The big fail on this play, imo, is that Mercilus is playing soft. He should have attacked Smith. If he'd have pinned his ears back, Smith would have been sacked at the time he faked the phantom hand off.

The whole left side of that play....... smh. :wadepalm:
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The only problem with that analysis is that the safety is supposed to follow the RB.................IF he has the ball........

The whole left side of the D was "taken out" of the play.............Reed was "faked out" of the play........:wadepalm:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Instincts? His instincts now just plain stink.


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Looks like he was filling the right gap if the middle of the Texans front-7 doesn't get totally dominated. I can't fault him on this one. #97 (McClain) is the guy getting his ass kicked in the middle of the field (we don't need no stinking wide body). If he holds his ground, this play gets blown up. Mays looks like he didn't fulfill his gap assignment either. Mays looks like he swapped gaps but not #20. Merci looks clueless also...dude took about 300 false steps.

I'm down on Reed but you have to have your front-7 win around the goal line if you want a chance...you can't rely on your S to make the play down there and you can't get the middle of your front-7 blown totally off the ball and expect to stop anyone in the red zone.
 
Vinny said:
Looks like he was filling the right gap if the middle of the Texans front-7 doesn't get totally dominated. I can't fault him on this one. #97 (McClain) is the guy getting his ass kicked in the middle of the field. (we don't need no stinking wide body). If he holds his ground, this play gets blown up. Mays looks like he didn't fulfill his gap assignment either. Mays looks like he swapped gaps but not #20. Merci looks clueless also.

I'm down on Reed but you have to have your front-7 win around the goal line if you want a chance...you can't rely on your S to make the play down there and you can't get the middle of your front-7 blown totally off the ball and expect to stop anyone in the red zone.
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Add Antonio with McClain. They were both washed out even if Charles correctly took the hand off. Mercilus contained the outside, which was probably his job. Out of the play nonetheless. I think Mays read the original play correctly, but recognized too late. Smith and McClain being pushed 5 yards out of the play allowed the TD on a busted play.

Just my .02
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The only problem with that analysis is that the safety is supposed to follow the RB.................IF he has the ball........

The whole left side of the D was "taken out" of the play.............Reed was "faked out" of the play........:wadepalm:
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What if it was a fake & the RB released into a route? Who was supposed to track him if the safety is supposed to be following the RB if he has the ball?

HOU-TEX said:
Mercilus contained the outside, which was probably his job.

Just my .02
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I'll concede..... this may have been the case. He may be thinking screen if he attacks the QB...

300 false steps though..... lol.
 
Reed is terrible at run support, but that's not new. A problem is this scheme doesn't force interceptions. Opposing QBs have very easy reads and get it out quickly. There aren't many guys lurking in zones trying to jump routes. Most turnovers will be from forced fumbles.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Instincts? His instincts now just plain stink.





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Isn't there a play every year that the Texans just get tricked badly on?

Remember Donovan McNabb faking the hand off, hiding it behind him, then throwing it downfield?

For some reason I remember Carolina and Cam Newton abusing us to embarrassment.

Probably happens with every team right?

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HOU-TEX said:
Add Antonio with McClain. They were both washed out even if Charles correctly took the hand off. Mercilus contained the outside, which was probably his job. Out of the play nonetheless. I think Mays read the original play correctly, but recognized too late. Smith and McClain being pushed 5 yards out of the play allowed the TD on a busted play.

Just my .02
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I can see most of that. Mays was blind behind the avalanche of DT's that were being pushed around. Mercilus had contain but he was totally unblocked and didn't attack the ball. If you watch the video clip it's almost like Smith is trying to hand Mercilus the ball. Imagine JJ Watt in that spot and I bet he doesn't do the chicken dance.
 
Vance87 said:
And what the hell was Mercilus doing? Couldn't he see that Smith was handing the ball off to no one?
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He's the leverage player. Not his play to make.

Sure, we would all love it if he dives in and makes that play. But if he doesn't and loses contain what then?
 
Vance87 said:
Loses contain on who exactly? Casper?
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On the ball carrier. He does dive in late and gets blocked by Charles. Imagine if Smith had hesitated and cut behind that block. That would have been all on Mercilus.

It doesn't matter though. He kept the play contained to the middle, which was his job. It's just unfortunate that other guys completely blew their assignments.
 
WolverineFan said:
He's the leverage player. Not his play to make.

Sure, we would all love it if he dives in and makes that play. But if he doesn't and loses contain what then?
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Yeah I have to agree with this. Mercilus is not the culprit on this. Antonio's first step was to pinch which means he is not responsible for containing on the 5 hole and out. Mercilus is the sole containment (along w/corner in a tight formation) which means his first step is to maintain outside and not push inside on a pinch himself. This alone takes him out of the play. This is a split second play after all. Plus Charles saw him so he wasn't going to make a play anyway.

The main issue on this is McClain gets completely dominated. On top of which he didn't fire out but stood giving the offensive linemen all the leverage. The offensive linemen dictates where he goes. Same for Smith. They just took his momentum on the pinch and kept him going that way and out of the play.

Mays and Reed would have difficult visibility so would follow the back as you see them both attempt to do. If McClain and Smith had came an ounce close to their job the gap would have been small enough for Mays to make a play. But they both get blown fully out increasing the gap making it that much more difficult for Mays.

Only fault I give Reed is coming toward the line of scrimmage too much. He was worried about the first down but should realize his positioning would not allow him to prevent that. He should focus on guarding the endzone. He would have better visibility and an opportunity to react properly.

Nice design by Wade as it would have worked if executed properly. But the players failed on this one.
 
Mercilus is looking right at the QB with the ball in his hands. I doubt he's playing contain (although that was most likely his assignment as they appear to have expected run). Most likely he's thinking screen & doesn't want Charles to get a free release.
 
thunderkyss said:
Mercilus is looking right at the QB with the ball in his hands. I doubt he's playing contain (although that was most likely his assignment as they appear to have expected run). Most likely he's thinking screen & doesn't want Charles to get a free release.
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It just looks weird because there is a one second long period that Alex Smith is sticking the ball out to air and Mercilus is just staring there looking at him. Like he was shocked that there wasn't anyone there to take the ball and he was caught off guard.
 
Vance87 said:
It just looks weird because there is a one second long period that Alex Smith is sticking the ball out to air and Mercilus is just staring there looking at him. Like he was shocked that there wasn't anyone there to take the ball and he was caught off guard.
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I think anyone but a stone cold psychopath (Jared Allen) would've had a "WTF??" moment right there.
 
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