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No matter what happens Saturday, it's been a very Successful Year for the Texans !

GP said:
You don't think that the failure to clinch HFA, in TWO ATTEMPTS, is underachieving?

Wow.

Had we manned up and clinched HFA...and then go on to lose in the AFCC game...I would think we did a good job based on all circumstances. But not putting the Vikings and the Colts away--losing HFA--that, to me, sealed this team's fate. They've under-achieved for that fact alone.

I can't even acknowledge a win vs. the Bengals, tbh. It'll be a mirage. But honestly, I feel like the Bengals are going to punk us HARD. I think we go out in the first round this Saturday. Owen Daniels better be preparing a better "I"m shocked, I'm stunned!" face than what he sported last Sunday in Indy.
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I am in full agreement with this post. However, I'm not ready to believe the Bengals will punk the Texans. But a neither a loss or a win by the home team will surprise me. Neither would matter to me either. A win just secures a date to get @$$ raped by NE again.
 
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mridge01 said:
Well the last two superbowl winners were hot and finding tough ways to win coming into the playoffs, not stumbling in and finding ways to lose like the Texans are.
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The Giants did get hot...but they were not favorites to win it.

The Packers were 2-2 though, I wouldn't say they went roaring into the playoffs or anything.

I think the point is, this is the NFL. Just get to the playoffs and see what you can do. It's hard enough to get to the playoffs, if you do it enough times (like the Steelers...) you may find that luck shines on your side enough to make a legit run at it.
 
Vinny said:
You can't figure out that the last month of games included one win and three losses?

Mon Dec 10, 2012 @Patriots L 14-42 11-2
15 Sun Dec 16, 2012 Colts W 29-17 12-2
16 Sun Dec 23, 2012 Vikings L 6-23 12-3
17 Sun Dec 30, 2012 @Colts L 16-28 12-4
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You said 1-4.

The Texans were 2-3 for the month of December.
And they won a bunch of game before that.
 
fiasco west said:
The Giants did get hot...but they were not favorites to win it.

The Packers were 2-2 though, I wouldn't say they went roaring into the playoffs or anything.

I think the point is, this is the NFL. Just get to the playoffs and see what you can do. It's hard enough to get to the playoffs, if you do it enough times (like the Steelers...) you may find that luck shines on your side enough to make a legit run at it.
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The Packers had won their last 2 going into the playoffs. I never said either team was a favorite to win.
 
76Texan said:
You said 1-4.

The Texans were 2-3 for the month of December.
And they won a bunch of game before that.
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I was talking about the last 4 games and I think redundantly typing "4" would clue you in on that. Also, thanks for telling me we won a bunch of games before that. I must have missed that little known nugget of information. Either that of I thought we were "imploding" from losses.
 
mridge01 said:
The Packers had won their last 2 going into the playoffs. I never said either team was a favorite to win.
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I just don't think it matters too much. 2 games isn't a winning streak really though.

All the last 4 games say is that a team is struggling at the moment or a team is playing well at the time. That doesn't mean that can't change. It's just another thing people use to try and predict the usually unpredictable playoffs.
 
fiasco west said:
The Giants did get hot...but they were not favorites to win it.

The Packers were 2-2 though, I wouldn't say they went roaring into the playoffs or anything.

I think the point is, this is the NFL. Just get to the playoffs and see what you can do. It's hard enough to get to the playoffs, if you do it enough times (like the Steelers...) you may find that luck shines on your side enough to make a legit run at it.
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The Giants went 3-5.
The Packers went 3-3.
The Saints lost their last 3.
 
And Schaub has as much Playoff experience as RGIII and Andrew Luck...

And Schaub has thrown 1 TD in last 4 games....

And Schaub is shaken in the confidence dept....

Doesn't bode well
 
handswarmer said:
And Schaub has as much Playoff experience as RGIII and Andrew Luck...

And Schaub has thrown 1 TD in last 4 games....

And Schaub is shaken in the confidence dept....

Doesn't bode well
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Do you realize that Eli's previous experience before the SB win comprised of two losses?

One of them was a shutout; he threw for an "elite" 176 yards in the other.
 
fiasco west said:
Then they went into the playoffs and looked better than everyone expected.

Lets not forget this team was a play away from being in a AFCC game while playing a third string rookie QB and seemingly half the team on IR.

All things considered, they overachieved last season. Maybe they dropped seeding late in the season, but when the playoffs rolled around they showed up. So it didn't even matter.
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If we'd have won those last three games last year we'd have finished 13-3 & been the second seed.

Only difference is that no one expected us to be the 2 seed. We were the favorites to be the #1 seed. But everyone saw the writing on the wall, the team failed to adjust to what was happening & now we're the #3 seed.

I understand why everyone is so upset. We've got a downward trend going... I understand everyone thinking we're going to lose next week.

What I don't understand, is if we beat the Bengals, how's that going to be looked at as "nothing"
 
76Texan said:
Do you realize that Eli's previous experience before the SB win comprised of two losses?

One of them was a shutout; he threw for an "elite" 176 yards in the other.
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Additionally, I remember not too long ago when Eli was considered a bust and many Giants fans who still watch him do not have total confidence. If I were a fan, there are really only 3 or 4 QB's I'd have total confidence in on my team. Unfortunately, Shaub is not one of them...
 
Perki-Perk said:
Additionally, I remember not too long ago when Eli was considered a bust and many Giants fans who still watch him do not have total confidence. If I were a fan, there are really only 3 or 4 QB's I'd have total confidence in on my team. Unfortunately, Shaub is not one of them...
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Where Eli was drafted; he's supposed to be a franchise QB, but he underperformed for quite awhile.

Schaub is the equivalent of a 23rd pick (which I thought the Texans paid a little too much for to begin with - but we needed a QB.)

I have never expected great things out of Schaub.
But he needs to play within himself. Two INTs a game is not going to work.
And he can't take needless sack either.
 
Anyone who says, after losing 3 out of the last 4, blowing HFA, and then going one and done in the playoffs, is still a successful season, is just saying that for the sake of stirring the pot. They themselves don't really believe that.

Did anyone think the 12-4 93 Oilers were a successful season? What happened to Super Bowl or bust?

If we're going one and done in the playoffs, all that 12-4 record means is bad seeding in the draft.

Failure.
 
76Texan said:
Where Eli was drafted; he's supposed to be a franchise QB, but he underperformed for quite awhile.

Schaub is the equivalent of a 23rd pick (which I thought the Texans paid a little too much for to begin with - but we needed a QB.)

I have never expected great things out of Schaub.
But he needs to play within himself. Two INTs a game is not going to work.
And he can't take needless sack either.
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So if that dog can't hunt you better find one that can .
 
76Texan said:
The Giants went 3-5.
The Packers went 3-3.
The Saints lost their last 3.
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Guessing their point on the Giants is how they finished the season...not how they finished the second half of the season. They won their last 3 out of 4 to finish as we lost 3 out of 4.

Packers...two of those losses were without Aaron Rodgers and they still lost those by a combined 8 points, on the road and one of them to the Patriots. Matt Flynn led them in those two games.

Saints put a bounty on everyone as they went in the playoffs and went buck wild lol. Honestly, they got outplayed by the Vikings in the NFC game but they won in the end and that is all that matters. But yeah, they definitely did not go in hot after starting 13-0 though at the same time had nothing to play for in the last game with homefield sewed up...unlike us, heh.

Anyway, we have a chance but let's be honest. It will take playing above what we have in almost 8 weeks.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
So if that dog can't hunt you better find one that can .
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Hey, I've been looking.
I said Dalton looked promising during the 2011 draft; and that CK was raw but may have higher upside.

Last year I went for the trio Wilson, Keenum, and Cousins.

I thought Keenum would be the 8th, 9th or 10th QB due to his injury history.
We got Keenum and I like him a lot, but you need a plan B with Keenum due to his size and injury history.
 
Bill Cowher coached 15 seasons, made it to the playoffs in 10 of those seasons and made it to the Super Bowl twice -- winning one.

His playoffs record was: 12-9.
 
IDEXAN said:
If you were like me and with this franchise watching it on TV that Sunday night for the first time against Dallas 10 years ago, you know it's been a long and difficult journey to this point. Well here's a reminder, last year was our first division winning season & playoff season and therefor this year is only the second to win a division and reach the playoffs and the 12 wins we've had are the most ever, but the harsh reality is sometimes playoff teams aren't playing their best when the playoffs begin so brace yourself for what might happen Saturday. Afterall last years best RS team and the defending SB champs Packers lost their initial playoff game at home in GB after stumbling badly at the end of the RS.
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QFT and respectability.

PS - repped
 
Surreal McCoy said:
But only December counts...:rolleyes:
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when it came to locking down home field advantage, playing two games instead of 3 to advance to the Super Bowl, and playing the worst playoff teams instead of the better playoff teams on your road to New Orleans....December mattered quite a bit.
 
Marcus said:
Anyone who says, after losing 3 out of the last 4, blowing HFA, and then going one and done in the playoffs, is still a successful season, is just saying that for the sake of stirring the pot. They themselves don't really believe that.

Did anyone think the 12-4 93 Oilers were a successful season? What happened to Super Bowl or bust?

If we're going one and done in the playoffs, all that 12-4 record means is bad seeding in the draft.

Failure.
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It impacts our strength of schedule, too, correct? The better you are...the tougher your competition will be in the future--Or am I mistaken on that?

Yeah, so the dumpy teams like the Jags and the Titans are laughing themselves silly..."Ha ha! Texans swept us, looked better than us, DID better than us, and they are drafting in the last few spots of round 1."

I don't know that there's a better draft position solution out there...but man it stinks to have finished the year 12-4, bust in the playoffs, and then you get rewarded by (drum roll, please) drafting in the last few spots of the first round.

I don't know what part of "Hey, whatever happens...it was STILL a successful season!" is true. I'm with you: It sucks pretty bad, in all actuality.
 
Double Barrel said:
I'm surprised that you are still here talking to the worst fans in the history of humanity.

oh yeah...":rolleyes:"
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Oh yes. I forgot who it was that believed that our team will only be as good, or as bad, as its fans root, or don't, for said NFL team.

We need the NFL to stop doing the "wear pink" month for breast awareness. We need a new information awareness campaign for Illogical Proportion Syndrome.

IPS.
 
Vinny said:
when it came to locking down home field advantage, playing two games instead of 3 to advance to the Super Bowl, and playing the worst playoff teams instead of the better playoff teams on your road to New Orleans....December mattered quite a bit.
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Spilled milk & everything.

Let's move on.
 
Vinny said:
when it came to locking down home field advantage, playing two games instead of 3 to advance to the Super Bowl, and playing the worst playoff teams instead of the better playoff teams on your road to New Orleans....December mattered quite a bit.
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Fiddler said:
Spilled milk & everything.

Let's move on.
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losing the top spot in the AFC and playing 3 games instead of 2 isn't "spilled milk". Accidentally pouring bleach on your letter jacket is "spilled milk".
 
This team needs to get back to the tried and true methodology of its past:

Enter the final three games well OUT of playoff contention, or maybe make it to where they need wins AND help from other teams, and then win those last three games and party in the stadium like rock stars...then draft in the top 15.

This whole "Doing awesome until the last few games of the season" thing is really not the recipe for Houston pro football fans to enjoy.

I prefer a more vintage Houston pro football product. My palate is conditioned to reject anything else.
 
Successful? VERY successful?!?! Please pass the blunt because I definitely need some of the diggity you have been smoking.
 
GP said:
This team needs to get back to the tried and true methodology of its past:

Enter the final three games well OUT of playoff contention, or maybe make it to where they need wins AND help from other teams, and then win those last three games and party in the stadium like rock stars...then draft in the top 15.

This whole "Doing awesome until the last few games of the season" thing is really not the recipe for Houston pro football fans to enjoy.

I prefer a more vintage Houston pro football product. My palate is conditioned to reject anything else.
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What is a "more vintage pro football product", may I ask? :good:
 
76Texan said:
What is a "more vintage pro football product", may I ask? :good:
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You left out the "Houston" part of that line.

HOUSTON pro football product.

Vintage Houston pro football is being excited about potential, knowing that your dreams are bigger than reality's outcome. So you can talk about "what if" rather than "what could have been."

We've had fewer "what could have been" moments.

I enjoy the "what if" moments better. With "what could have been," you end up learning that you're as near to the trophy as you were back in the days when you were far away. I think it's time to salvage the old signature pic and replace the Cushing sig pic.
 
31 out of 32 teams will have a bad season. That's just how it works. Houston pro football fans have never had a good season, and aren't gonna have one this year either.

Just ask the 16-0 patsies or the 9-7 super bowl champion Giants.
 
Vinny said:
losing the top spot in the AFC and playing 3 games instead of 2 isn't "spilled milk". Accidentally pouring bleach on your letter jacket is "spilled milk".
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It's still the past, just the same. The important thing is next week.

Makes no sense in getting upset about... well, I was upset too. But that was 3 days ago. We'll be rock'n @ Reliant 3 days from now. Chances are we're going to lose the game, but I'll be damned if I give up before I lose my voice.
 
Fiddler said:
It's still the past, just the same. The important thing is next week.

Makes no sense in getting upset about... well, I was upset too. But that was 3 days ago. We'll be rock'n @ Reliant 3 days from now. Chances are we're going to lose the game, but I'll be damned if I give up before I lose my voice.
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I'm not upset. My world centers around facts. Homers don't need such things so you should feel fine about the whole thing. I'm still pulling for the good guys though.
 
Vinny said:
I'm not upset. My world centers around facts. Homers don't need such things so you should feel fine about the whole thing. I'm still pulling for the good guys though.
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It's a matter of which facts you want to believe & what you think they mean.

Losing last Sunday does not mean we'll lose this coming Saturday. I don't think this is the kind of team that would lose 3 in a row. Haven't done it all year. (another one of those fact thingies)
 
How about Dan Marino, who had a losing record in the play-offs and never did anything To write home about?
 
I'm not a buyer of the 12-4 argument. The best lil' regular season team ever guys! Bag that. I'll base my ideas of their success on their post season record, starting with the Bengals. Yeah, 12-4 and HFA and all that noise, it's called the past and we ain't livin' in it. This ain't 1993, ain't the Oilers, ain't a bunch of regular season games. This is a big game and the Texans have thoroughly proven themselves unworthy of big games. All said, "if only Matt Schaub was healthy, that's a super bowl team" and what do we have now? Matt Schaub and that gigantic monkey on his back. A loss here is devastating. One win and one loss is equally troubling, to me indicating this team has hit it's peak. The least likely scenario by all accounts is them making even the AFC championship game. For me, it's probably a loss in the AFC game that is my minimum level of accepting the season as successful. If having Schaub would've put that team over the Ravens last year, what would be wrong in expecting the same thing this year....when they have Schaub???

I'm rooting for my team all the way but the last couple burns went deep. There was no way the Jags had a chance. Or the Lions. Vikings....Colts....and now people think we're about to go beat a Bengals team that's on the rise?
 
I guess I look at it a little different than some of you guys. I just take one game at a time,, and try to keep it simple. I celebrate when we win, get irritated and pi*sed off when we lose, and then move on to the next game.. For me, we have had a successful season. I've watched some damn good football, watched us win games we probably should have lost, lose some, well two, we should have won, and watched one of the BEST defensive players to ever play the game set records for our team, as well as a resurgent of one of the best WR to ever set foot on a football field, and they BOTH belong to US, as well as a pretty good RB!! It's been an entertaining season for me, and that's what I pay for. SURE, I want it to continue through Feb, but, I don't regret one dime I've spent thus far on my team.

I have a competitive spirit, and that makes me continue to believe we can pull off four more wins. If I can't make myself believe that, then I don't need to be spending so much damn money on a game thats so unpredictable. Our boys let us down the past couple weeks. We're all disappointed, angry, sad, hesitant to believe in them, blaaa, blaaaa, blaaa! It didn't work out the way it should, but, it's time to move on. If we have one more game or four, we're better off than the Cowgirls and Titties, who are sitting at home wishing they were in our shoes!! I'm in the mood to celebrate ONE more win, ONE game at a time, until it's all over!!

PLUS!! I'm just not ready to give up my dream of a Texan/Niner SB!! I can hold on to that for at least 3 more days, maybe more!! It's my dream dammit, and I'm not ready for it to end!!:smiliedance:
 
handswarmer said:
And Schaub has as much Playoff experience as RGIII and Andrew Luck...

And Schaub has thrown 1 TD in last 4 games....

And Schaub is shaken in the confidence dept....

Doesn't bode well
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So what is this ravens fan trollling over here for anyway? They have their own issues.
 
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