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Jacoby Jones Signs With Baltimore

$3.5 million per year????

LMAO!

Wow. LOL. I love it when people think they can make three-day leftover scraps taste like gourmet food. Pretty dumb move, Ravens.

And that he signed with the team how baited him into coughing up the football in the playoff game just makes it all the more awesome.
 
Holy hell! $7 million for Jacoby! I wonder how much of that is guaranteed. Not more than $10.00 I bet.
 
Somewhere on a phone in Baltimore, early 2012:

"Jacoby, look man...just muff a punt in the game...we don't care when or where...just muff one....and we'll sign you when Houston cuts you." :secret:

BAM! Fumble.

Flash forward to mid-2012, somewhere in Baltimore:

"Ready to sign your deal? Welcome aboard!"

:tinfoil:
 
Holy hell! $7 million for Jacoby! I wonder how much of that is guaranteed. Not more than $10.00 I bet.
just the signing bonus I'd think. I bet it wasn't all that big and his big salary may end up making him a camp cut if he doesn't come in play well right off the bat.
 
just the signing bonus I'd think. I bet it wasn't all that big and his big salary may end up making him a camp cut if he doesn't come in play well right off the bat.

I actually hope he makes the team so that I can watch what Ray Lewis does to him when he screws up.
 
I think this is going to get to his feeble mind. Leach, pollard and he can all get together and talk and be mad about how, "That's OK, they didn't want us anyway." and try to find ways to take shots when it comes time to face them in the regular season.

And then he'll drop balls.
 
I think this is going to get to his feeble mind. Leach, pollard and he can all get together and talk and be mad about how, "That's OK, they didn't want us anyway." and try to find ways to take shots when it comes time to face them in the regular season.

And then he'll drop balls.

Oh well. Of those three, only one is a good football player.
 
Thats a good place for him to wind up.

I think he'll do well there as a third/fourth option.
 
They definitely overpaid, but Baltimore has their reasons for picking him up.

The Ravens front office know we've positioned ourselves to be an AFC powerhouse, and if you want to get out of the AFC next season, you'll probably have to get through Houston to do so.

Jones' familiarity with our offensive system - he did spend a good number of years here - will be helpful to them. And as for on the field production, Baltimore won't force feed him to their fanbase or try to groom him into the #2 spot. He messes up, they cut him, there won't be a Kubiak there to hold his hand.
 
Congratulations Jacoby. Hopefully you've landed with a team with which you will be appreciated. Give some high five's to Leach and Pollard, and I'll be pulling for you on October 21st!
 
They definitely overpaid, but Baltimore has their reasons for picking him up.

The Ravens front office know we've positioned ourselves to be an AFC powerhouse, and if you want to get out of the AFC next season, you'll probably have to get through Houston to do so.

Jones' familiarity with our offensive system - he did spend a good number of years here - will be helpful to them. And as for on the field production, Baltimore won't force feed him to their fanbase or try to groom him into the #2 spot. He messes up, they cut him, there won't be a Kubiak there to hold his hand.

Seriously doubt Jj has any more insight to our offense than the rest of the league who studies our team in preperation for game day.

I thought Jacoby was being paid too much last year, but now that Ozzy basically gave him the same deal, I may have to lay off the Rick Smith amateur talk.

However, we do know Jacoby isn't going to Baltimore to be a #1 or a #2, not with Torry Smith & Anquan Bolden there. He'll probably be their #3, which is basically what that contract says.

I'll predict he'll easily out produce his best years in Houston as a WR, with that big arm QB & all.
 
Congratulations Jacoby. Hopefully you've landed with a team with which you will be appreciated. Give some high five's to Leach and Pollard, and I'll be pulling for you on October 21st!

Hmm... got me tinking, what does Baltimore know that we don't? They're becoming Houston North.
 
$3.5 million per year????

LMAO!

Wow. LOL. I love it when people think they can make three-day leftover scraps taste like gourmet food. Pretty dumb move, Ravens.

And that he signed with the team how baited him into coughing up the football in the playoff game just makes it all the more awesome.

Heck GP, I do it all the time with corn dog sticks and left over pizza crust!

You can't do that? :D
 
$3.5 million per year????

LMAO!

Wow. LOL. I love it when people think they can make three-day leftover scraps taste like gourmet food. Pretty dumb move, Ravens.

And that he signed with the team how baited him into coughing up the football in the playoff game just makes it all the more awesome.

Actually, you have no idea how this is going to work out for the Ravens and Jacoby. Plenty of players have had a poor start turn into a great career by moving on to a new team. I think I'll go with the Ravens GM's judgement on this one, over yours and the Texans.

What would really be "all the more awesome" is if Leach, Pollard and Jacoby each played a part in a win on October 21st. I'll be there!
 
Actually, you have no idea how this is going to work out for the Ravens and Jacoby. Plenty of players have had a poor start turn into a great career by moving on to a new team. I think I'll go with the Ravens GM's judgement on this one, over yours and the Texans.

What would really be "all the more awesome" is if Leach, Pollard and Jacoby each played a part in a win on October 21st. I'll be there!

Jacoby's goose butter doesn't taste very good does it?
 
Actually, you have no idea how this is going to work out for the Ravens and Jacoby. Plenty of players have had a poor start turn into a great career by moving on to a new team. I think I'll go with the Ravens GM's judgement on this one, over yours and the Texans.

What would really be "all the more awesome" is if Leach, Pollard and Jacoby each played a part in a win on October 21st. I'll be there!

Jacoby did not ever mature.....plain and simple. He had his chance last year when Dre went down....and he did not step it up..

He has issues and still has issues on and off the field.

I was pulling for Jacoby ....I have since the beginning....but even I saw the writing on the wall last season.

You cant wait on a guy forever. I personally thought he was gone before last season myself.

I really think his best years are behind him.
 
Somewhere on a phone in Baltimore, early 2012:

"Jacoby, look man...just muff a punt in the game...we don't care when or where...just muff one....and we'll sign you when Houston cuts you." :secret:
You are the King. And the tin hat, your crown.
 
Actually, you have no idea how this is going to work out for the Ravens and Jacoby. Plenty of players have had a poor start turn into a great career by moving on to a new team. I think I'll go with the Ravens GM's judgement on this one, over yours and the Texans.

What would really be "all the more awesome" is if Leach, Pollard and Jacoby each played a part in a win on October 21st. I'll be there!

Mrs. Jones

They should've left Jacoby in Baltimore after the playoff game. It would've saved time.
 
@FakeSchefter....$7m deal is $100k for 2 yrs and $6.9m playoff bonus for previous playoff game vs Texans

LOL. Bob McNair needs to ask Goodell about the Ravens signing Jacoby Jones.
 
The best front office in the league brings Jones in for a road test. Maybe we kept him around for so long for a reason.
 
You would think if anyone besides the Texans would know.....it would be the Ravens.

At this point, all I can guess is that Ray Lewis is hungry and requested a baby lamb.
 
Somewhere on a phone in Baltimore, early 2012:

"Jacoby, look man...just muff a punt in the game...we don't care when or where...just muff one....and we'll sign you when Houston cuts you." :secret:

BAM! Fumble.

Flash forward to mid-2012, somewhere in Baltimore:

"Ready to sign your deal? Welcome aboard!"

:tinfoil:

One extra win in the playoffs for 2 years of Jacoby.... Thats some bad front office work...:firehair:
 
I am somewhat confused by the Ravens. But I will wait to see how the contract is structured before I blast them.

Jacoby was the worst route runner on the team last season. He was constantly having to adjust his position when he realized he was out of position. Which resulted in an incompletion.
 
Jacoby has plenty of faults, but I don't know if he was a bad route runner.

Unreliable hands, awkward, occasional bad decisions, didn't attack the ball consistently...Yeah...

Bad route runner? I can't really say that. All I know is that he got open quite a bit. Didn't always catch the ball or get a catchable ball, but he got open.
 
You guys realize we played the Ravens twice last year right?

Jacoby had his best overall game of the season the first time we played the Ravens. They probably remember how he twisted Ed Reed up and caught that long TD on them.
 
You guys realize we played the Ravens twice last year right?

Jacoby had his best overall game of the season the first time we played the Ravens. They probably remember how he twisted Ed Reed up and caught that long TD on them.

Who is this implied for?
 
Jacoby has plenty of faults, but I don't know if he was a bad route runner.

Unreliable hands, awkward, occasional bad decisions, didn't attack the ball consistently...Yeah...

Bad route runner? I can't really say that. All I know is that he got open quite a bit. Didn't always catch the ball or get a catchable ball, but he got open.

The route running has been my third biggest knock on him after his hands and his fumbling.

Our offense has a lot of timing throws where the QB has to let the ball go before the receiver gets to his spot. So the QB is just throwing to the spot. Jacoby got open but the problem was that he wasn't always getting to his spot. That's why so many more balls looked like they were underthrown or overthrown to him than to anyone else.

It made the QB look bad. You've got this WR sitting there wide open and the ball falls to his feet or sails over his head.

At least, that's the way it looked to me. Matt was never as inaccurate with any other receiver as he was throwing to Jacoby.
 
The best front office in the league brings Jones in for a road test. Maybe we kept him around for so long for a reason.
Baltimore is a great fit. Jacoby will make a place for himself with the Ravens... their WR corps is average & thin. I expect good production from him.
 
I seriously doubt Jacoby was ever going to earn his salary here. He was a wasted third round pick, and we can't afford to miss on too many third round picks. He was no better than Andre Davis, whom we paid less, and we didn't have to use a 3rd rounder on Davis.

If Jacoby can find a team that can use his talents, it won't hurt my feelings a bit. I hope things work out for him.
 
The route running has been my third biggest knock on him after his hands and his fumbling.

Our offense has a lot of timing throws where the QB has to let the ball go before the receiver gets to his spot. So the QB is just throwing to the spot. Jacoby got open but the problem was that he wasn't always getting to his spot. That's why so many more balls looked like they were underthrown or overthrown to him than to anyone else.

Timing throw doesn't mean you're throwing to spots.

What it means is that you are throwing within a certain rythm. As a QB you still have to see the field and throw a catchable ball to the receiver.

Think about what you're saying. There are a few things that can affect a WR's route...Getting jamed, someone dropping in a zone right into their path, tripping, ect...

This stuff can happen on any play. This isn't practice where you're running routes on air and just doing exactly what you want to. There are going to be some hiccups and delays. That's just football. You cannot expect a receiver to be in the exact same spot everytime the run a route. That's just not going to happen. Sometimes they will be a little deeper, a little slower, a little faster, a little more shallow...That stuff happens all the time...

The QB is not out there just throwing to spots and that is a huge misconception. That's not what a timing throw is. Timing throw just mean when you hit the end of your drop (3 step, 5, 7; whatever) the ball is expected to be coming out. That's all that means. You still have to see your target and throw a catchable ball.

All that said, I had mentioned that Jacoby didn't do the QB many favors by not consistently attacking the ball.

It made the QB look bad. You've got this WR sitting there wide open and the ball falls to his feet or sails over his head.

At least, that's the way it looked to me. Matt was never as inaccurate with any other receiver as he was throwing to Jacoby.

That was on Matt. I disagree that he mostly did that to Jacoby. Go back and look at some of the games. He was doing that more often than usual. I can remember a few throws just off hand that he threw in the dirt to Andre and OD. He was making poor throws to everyone on occasion. Matt was having a good year because he was making more big plays. His completion percentage was the lowest that it's been since he's been a Texan. As a matter of fact the only years that his completion percentage was lower was his first two years in the league.

Matt wasn't all that accurate last year, but he and the team were just exploding for bigger plays.
 
Timing throw doesn't mean you're throwing to spots.

Think about all the throws where the QB throws the ball before the player turns around or makes his cut. The receiver turns around and the ball is there. Our QB/Receivers do that a lot. Those plays aren't about the receiver getting open, the QB spotting him, and throwing him the ball; it's about the QB reading reading the defense which tells him which receiver should be open and then throwing the ball to the place where that receiver should be. When the QB and the receiver are on different pages, the receiver runs one route and the QB throws to the spot for another route and the ball hits the ground with nary a soul around.

That's what I'm talking about. It's up to the receiver to be at a certain spot at a certain time. He's got to fight through whatever the defense throws at him. The defense jams the receiver in an attempt to disrupt the timing. You hear that over and over again. Disrupt the timing, disrupt the timing.

Now, maybe when they're saying 'disrupt the timing' everyone is using the term wrong but whatever, a lot of our offense is based on the receivers to getting to certain points and running along certain lines at certain times. The QB reads the defense and from those keys determines which one is going to be open. Then, based on his footwork, he gets the ball out to the guy whose route is supposed to be open and he throws the ball to where that receiver is supposed to be.

Not ALL of our offense is that way. There are plays where the QB goes back and surveys the field and then throws it to the open guy. But a lot of our offense is about being in the right place at the right time. And Jacoby wasn't there and when he was there, he frequently didn't make the play.
 
I say good luck to Jacobey except when he's in Houston next year for our big rematch with the Ravens, he needed a change of pace and a new opportunity.
Look how well that worked out for Jason Allen when he came to Houston after being a first round pick and then being cut by Miami.
 
Think about all the throws where the QB throws the ball before the player turns around or makes his cut.

Right, but the QB still has to identify the target and throw a catchable ball. Think about the trajectory of a thrown football. If a ball lands a receivers and you are saying the QB though the receiver would be closer, he'd have had to think the guy was going to be about 10-15 yards closer. An uncatchable ball at a receivers feet?

Even if the receiver is running his route and is off by 3 or 5 yards the ball should still be at his knees or basically within a catchable range.

If a QB is throwing balls at a receivers feet, or too far over his head that's on the QB. If we're talking about a few yards that could possibly be on the receiver.

I could see if it was just to Jacoby, but it wasn't. I can vividly recall throws into the dirt to every major receiver except Dreesen, Casey and Foster.

I don't see how you can just look at poorly thrown balls and just say that the receiver ran a bad route. Just because it was Jacoby that the poorly thrown ball was thrown to?

What about the low throws to everyone else? The game against the Charges last year when AJ kicked the ball up after a low throw...was that because AJ didn't run his route right? Or because the throw was a little low?

Like I said, accuracy wise, last year was a down year for Matt. Had he been hitting on a higher percentage of his passes and stayed healthy all year we'd have won the superbowl hands down. We had a pretty good shot if he'd have just stayed healthy but if he had been completing a higher percentage of his passes no doubt in my mind we'd have won 14 games AND the superbowl. Period.

But his percentages were down and really the numbers just confirm what I was seeing with my eyes.
 
But his percentages were down and really the numbers just confirm what I was seeing with my eyes.

I think you're taking this into a totally different place than I am.

I'm not saying that Matt always put the ball to the right place. I'm not saying his accuracy last year was as good as it had been in the past.

I'm saying that a much higher percentage of throws were "off" to Jacoby than to other people. That's what I saw and have seen for years... not just last year. ALL of the blame for that can't go on Matt especially if it really is a higher percentage of those bad targets going to Jacoby.

Once I get a free moment, I'll see if I can find target vs. catch statistics to verify.

But I believe that's why Jacoby never got the number of targets we would have expected when he subbed for AJ. Matt didn't trust him to be where he was supposed to be.
 
I think you're taking this into a totally different place than I am.

I'm not saying that Matt always put the ball to the right place. I'm not saying his accuracy last year was as good as it had been in the past.

I'm saying that a much higher percentage of throws were "off" to Jacoby than to other people. That's what I saw and have seen for years... not just last year. ALL of the blame for that can't go on Matt especially if it really is a higher percentage of those bad targets going to Jacoby.

Once I get a free moment, I'll see if I can find target vs. catch statistics to verify.

But I believe that's why Jacoby never got the number of targets we would have expected when he subbed for AJ. Matt didn't trust him to be where he was supposed to be.

Remember the Raiders game we lost at home? Jacoby caught 1 of 11 passes that day.
 
I'm saying that a much higher percentage of throws were "off" to Jacoby than to other people. That's what I saw and have seen for years... not just last year. ALL of the blame for that can't go on Matt especially if it really is a higher percentage of those bad targets going to Jacoby.

Once I get a free moment, I'll see if I can find target vs. catch statistics to verify.

But I believe that's why Jacoby never got the number of targets we would have expected when he subbed for AJ. Matt didn't trust him to be where he was supposed to be.

All I remember seeing is Jacoby unable to jump high enough to catch a pass as well as not being able to dive low enough to catch a pass.

If he cuts on his route too early, the ball is over his head. We all have seen this. Jacoby leaping high and not able to even come close to the ball. it's because he went into his cut too soon when he should have taken one more step.

If he cuts too late, the ball ended up in the dirt. Why? Because he wasn't in the right spot at the right time.

Jacoby's route running, while he has had some people in the Texans organization stick up for him, is not good. It's inconsistent just like his hands and just like his punt fielding decision making.

Everything about him is inconsistent and that gets you in hot water in the NFL. He has the talent attributes teams want, but the inconsistency issue is what hurts him AND his team.

Notice there was no Blurbsdale College WR taken this year. Kubiak is not going to take a risk on another Jacoby again. That ship has sailed. The Amobi Okoye ship, similar to the Jacoby ship, sailed too. The Texans are beginning to settle down and just take players who have consistent tape and are not projects to shape up and show how awesome we are at finding hidden gems.
 
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