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In Leinart I Trust

he has two weeks to prep for the falcons defense which isn't saying much so lets give him a chance to see if he has matured as professional and if he has stop partying he might have a chance to salvage a once promising career.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I'm giving him a chance too. It's all we can do.
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Nuh huh, there is always this option :overreact:

I agree with you though, Ill give him a shot...... While it sucks to lose Schaub, I won't name names, but I just dont see us pulling a Colts....... oh wait guess I did, oh well, feels good...COLTS SUCK,GO TEXANS!!!
 
Id be pretty stoked right now.

Best running game in the league, best Oline in the league, best defense in the league, best WR in the league.

If Leinart cant come in and make something happen then he has no business being in the NFL.

On the other hand, and this is the part he should be stoked about, he has been put in the perfect situation to make himself a budding superstar again. If he goes in and takes advantage of these tools and doesnt screw up.. gets us to the playoffs, maybe even wins a game there.. his value is going to skyrocket.

We might be looking at suitors next offseason.. and we might get a deal out of it kinda like what Atlanta got from us for Schaub.

And I know most of you have had the thought cross your mind so im going to go ahead and voice it... There is also the chance that he could come in and blow everyone away. After all this IS the perfect setup for him. Next offseason it might be Schaub we are shopping around.

Or not.. I have no idea on the intricacies of that. The point though..is that Leinart has no excuses. If he still has talent, this is his chance to show it.. with nothing holding him back.


Off topic. WHAT DID WE DO?!?!?! Did someone beat up an old gypsy in the astrodome? How did we get this curse and what can we do to break it?

If you see a gypsy give them a hug.
 
If I were Leinart I would have taken the money and run and remained knee deep in scotch and vagina for the rest of my life...but that's just me.
 
Think I read recently that it took the Saints 4 decades to win a playoff game.

I also read a short excerpt of Dan Pastorini's autobiography coming out. He was a drunk, womanizing party-boy. THAT'S why they never won it all back then.

So, basically, I'm sayin' we're not jinxed. It just REALLY feels like it a LOT of the time.

Maybe we'll be fine if we can replace Leinart in all those hot-tubs with the girls with me... :)
 
Ok, I have had time to sleep this one off. Well... Not really. I woke up and immediately thought to myself... Oh yea, this sucks.

Even still, look at what we have gone through so far this year and we are STILL 7-3. We are currently the #1 frickin seed in the AFC! This team is different. This team finds a way. This team continues to progress despite what would "seem" to be reasons to throw in the towel. Not. This. Year.

I am done worrying about this. This is football. This is the NFL. We are Houston football fans. So what... We have a new captain stepping in to lead this team. Kubiak is THE MAN when it comes to QBs. We get AJ back. Our D is legit. Our running game is the best in the league.

This thing is far from over. Its just time for the next man to stand up.

Go Texans!!!!!!!
 
Totally agree.

Like you, I'm not worried about this. We've got the bye ahead of us, and that will give Matt plenty of time to get ready with the first-teamers. We'll be fine, especially with AJ coming back.

If anything does worry me about this, it's the fact that (at least when I went to bed last night, and I'm six hours ahead of Houston) there hasn't been a firm answer on how many games Schuab will miss. Are we likely to see him back in a jersey for the playoffs?
 
Tailgate said:
Ok, I have had time to sleep this one off. Well... Not really. I woke up and immediately thought to myself... Oh yea, this sucks.

Even still, look at what we have gone through so far this year and we are STILL 7-3. We are currently the #1 frickin seed in the AFC! This team is different. This team finds a way. This team continues to progress despite what would "seem" to be reasons to throw in the towel. Not. This. Year.

I am done worrying about this. This is football. This is the NFL. We are Houston football fans. So what... We have a new captain stepping in to lead this team. Kubiak is THE MAN when it comes to QBs. We get AJ back. Our D is legit. Our running game is the best in the league.

This thing is far from over. Its just time for the next man to stand up.

Go Texans!!!!!!!
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Thanks!! Ya said it for me!! Let's move on!!
 
PhilpW said:
We'll be fine because we have a dominating defense and a running game that controls the clock. Stay on the plus side of the turnover ledger and Texans continue to roll.
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I totally agree with this. This is definitely a blow but keep feeding the dynamic duo, play dominating defense, hit the wide open TE's on the play action, and oh yeah.....hopefully that #80 guy can come back strong in two weeks.
 
Dominating D.

Dominating running game.

Schaub not really having best year anyway (individually).

Maybe we'll be fine. All I can say is no freaking picks, Leinart. We are not asking you to carry this team. Learn to throw the ball away if nobody's OPEN (even though I got kind of sick of seeing Schaub do that). Practice, practice, practice your fake hand-offs, because you're replacing the best in the business at that.

Oh, Leinart meet Winston. I suggest you grow some eyes in the back of your head....or tell Eric you are a RB. Then he'll protect you.

One way or another, this season is going to end stressfully...

PS-PSYCHOTIC PREDICTIONS: Leinart wins Superbowl with Houston, beating Pittsburgh in Reliant Stadium in AFC Championship and beating Dallas in Superbowl (Romo has late season and playoff run); Leinart becomes Houston starter; Schaub demands trade, eventually winds up with and starts for........................................Jacksonville...

First game against Schaub and the Jaguars: Mario sacks Schaub....both suffer career-ending injuries...; Cushing cracks non-helmeted head on nose-guard's helmet, leaving clear brain-fluid on it, keeps playing, doesn't need brain to play football. Tested for roids; found to be pregnant; eventually passes a football with large, muscular arms; go figure.
 
ProFootballWeekly:

The problem with Leinart is simple. All the bad traits and habits he had in college carried over: a lack of arm strength, lack of mobility to avoid the rush, he floats and lets the ball hang in the air and makes poor decisions and bad throws on the run. Leinart may not be an NFL-caliber quarterback.
 
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I'm skipping all of the 5 stages of grief and going to the 6th and little known stage: unwavering, blind, stupid, unreasonable, illogical, dangerous optimism.

Why? Because things were going so well, everything was on track, we were finally almost there...and then THIS happens. I'm taking this as a sign from the Flying Spaghetti Monster that this was meant to happen, so Leinart could come in, hot tub girls in tow, and lead us to a Superbowl.

Looking at it realistically, there's few BETTER situations for a backup QB to step into. There is a low degree of failure due to our running game, o-line and AJ coming back that you'd have to be an utter wank at the QB spot to screw up too badly.

Leinart didn't have good teams to helm before, so it's easier to fail without the talent around you to help prop you up and let you ease into the QB role. This Texans team allows Leinart to stumble into success, just by its nature of being a rather complete team with skill at vital positions.

Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, hide yo college girls and hot tubs, Matt Leinart is in the house. SUPERBOWL OR BUST. LEINART MVP. BELIEVE IT.

(TJ Yates, get ready!)
 
IlliniJen said:
Looking at it realistically, there's few BETTER situations for a backup QB to step into. There is a low degree of failure due to our running game, o-line and AJ coming back that you'd have to be an utter wank at the QB spot to screw up too badly.
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And that reasoning is exactly why I'm not buying into all this gloom and doom. Would we be better off with Matty I instead of II? Well, of course we would. But we're not going to die as a team with Matty II. He's got six games to prepare for the playoffs, we'll be fine.

Unless Matty II goes down and Yates comes in. All bets are off then.
 
As long as he sticks to this game plan we're good:

1.) Hand the ball of to Arian Foster

2.) Pitch the ball to Arian Foster

3.) Hand the ball to Ben Tate

4.) Screen pass to Arian Foster


= WIN!
 
I would also like to mention that just a few weeks ago we were all dogging Schaub and how he hasn't been himself. Let's keep things in perspective yall. We weren't winning games because of Schaub. Yes he had some good moments but he wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire. Heck, he didn't even throw a TD vs. Cleveland and was pretty non-effective in the 2nd half of that game. He really wasn't effective in our last game vs. Tampa Bay. He only threw 3 times in the second half of that game.

Was he really a monster vs. Tenn or did we just throw up two 100 yard rushers on that team because Matt was throwing the ball everywhere? I recall a Matt Schaub who was struggling to get receivers the ball on the money that game.

In fact, I believe we can look at all 3 of our losses and see Schaub's finger prints on those games. We all know about Oakland and his inability to throw a completed pass until the final seconds of the 4th quarter. He couldn't convert a 3rd down vs. New Orleans, and he really couldn't do anything vs. Baltimore. Now he did have his reasons and I will give him that (No Andre) but we were in the thick of things in each of those games and he couldn't make something happen.

I believe it's not about Leinhart but everything around him. Our defense will get 3 and outs for us, our running game will keep the ball for us. If Andre comes back, they have to protect him and keep a few players out the box.

What I do see is that we will have a few more FG drives than TD drives that we were loving this year. Rackers better get his crap together.
 
I dunno what Leinart's gunna bring us, so i won't freak out yet... Schaub hasn't been as 'on' this year as he has been in the past, and we really haven't been throwing too too much...

What concerns me most right now is losing the timing and cohesiveness that Schaub had with everyone...you know, that stuff outside the x's and o's, like knowing how/when OD likes to break a route etc... And make what you will of Eric Winston now being a blindside tackle..

I'm gunna wait and see here... Maybe Matt Jr. Shocks us all or at least gives us the average (good 'nuff) play Schaub was giving...

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Since we're going the positive route here, you gotta think Leinart has more speed and agility than Schaub does. So, there's that going for him.
 
gary said:
Leinart over Sage I don't know about that one but we have who we have.
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We needed Sage when we had him because our only chance of winning was to sling it. We had to live with his requisite bone head plays.

Now we just need a guy to make 15 or so completions to keep the motor running.
 
I believe people some people are in for a surprise here. Leinart has had almost two years working in this offense, he has experience as an NFL QB, and unlike his situation in Arizona, he is going to be surrounded by a very good, fired up football tam on both sides of the ball. And, oh yeah, did I mention that Andre Johnson is due back in two weeks?

I do not expect to see the Texan's performance fall off noticeably during the regular season as a result of this change. Their schedule is favorable and the team is as talented and well balanced as any in the NFL.

Matt Leinart and the Texans are going to be just fine.
 
It could have been worse. Just think if Leinart would've gone to Seattle and we resigned Orlovsky! :gun:

Lets give Matt L. a chance.
 
MojoMan said:
I believe people some people are in for a surprise here. Leinart has had almost two years working in this offense, he has experience as an NFL QB, and unlike his situation in Arizona, he is going to be surrounded by a very good, fired up football tam on both sides of the ball. And, oh yeah, did I mention that Andre Johnson is due back in two weeks?

I do not expect to see the Texan's performance fall off noticeably during the regular season as a result of this change. Their schedule is favorable and the team is as talented and well balanced as any in the NFL.

Matt Leinart and the Texans are going to be just fine.
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That would be nice. Trying to stay positive, just look at what Alex Smith is doing this year. But if anybody thinks this is Brady taking over for Bledsoe or Warner for Green, that's just not going to be the case here.

I saw Trent Dilfer win a Super Bowl so I don't doubt Leinart can with this D and run game. Might be a little more difficult now. I hope no one was getting used to those 37-9, 41-7 games.
 
Speedy said:
That would be nice. Trying to stay positive, just look at what Alex Smith is doing this year. But if anybody thinks this is Brady taking over for Bledsoe or Warner for Green, that's just not going to be the case here.

I saw Trent Dilfer win a Super Bowl so I don't doubt Leinart can with this D and run game. Might be a little more difficult now. I hope no one was getting used to those 37-9, 41-7 games.
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You never know. Steve Young was a bust until he found the right situation. Leinart has the natural talent to be an excellent QB. I'd say he's more gifted than Schaub.

Between the ears is the hard part.

Leinart never got a fair shot in Arizona, especially when Whisenhunt came in.
 
Insideop said:
It could have been worse. Just think if Leinart would've gone to Seattle and we resigned Orlovsky! :gun:

Lets give Matt L. a chance.
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Amen....

You know its not like this guy has not been working with Kubiak. Kubiak wanted this guy back and had him resigned. Kubiak saw something in him and knew he could work with him and make him better.

Remember Arian Foster? Same thing different verse.....

If Kubiak thought that Leninart was not improving you think he would have kept him....I doubt it. I trust Kubiak when comes to judging a qb.

And lets not forget he worked with Steve Young as a offensive coodinator at San Fransico....so he knows how to work with lefthanders......
 
Lionheart will be on par with shaub or even better. It really is just a confidence thing. Think about it Arizona treated the guy like gutter trash after being in a lame system and didn't even have adequate time to adjust to this new offence. To me its all about his confidence level and he has demonstrated that by wanting to stick around here.
 
Ok people calm down. Leinart will not be on par or even better than Schaub. Schaub is a Top 10 QB. You don't just replace those.

There will be a dropoff. Let's just hope it's managable. If he can be like Sanchez we'll be fine. Sanchez is a joke and his offense is way, way, way worse than what we have here in Houston. That gives me some hope. But let's stop the "we'll be just fine, we'll barely skip a beat" thing.

I hope we don't skip a beat, but let's temper expectations a bit.
 
If Leinart can be a game manager and protect the ball we will be fine.

We need ~200 yards per game at 6.5+ YPA with limited turnovers out of him. Just enough to keep teams from stacking the box. Tate and Foster will handle the rest. If he can give us that we finish no worse than 5-1.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Ok people calm down. Leinart will not be on par or even better than Schaub. Schaub is a Top 10 QB. You don't just replace those.

There will be a dropoff. Let's just hope it's managable. If he can be like Sanchez we'll be fine. Sanchez is a joke and his offense is way, way, way worse than what we have here in Houston. That gives me some hope. But let's stop the "we'll be just fine, we'll barely skip a beat" thing.

I hope we don't skip a beat, but let's temper expectations a bit.
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You never know tho. I think Leinhart is going to surprise a lot of people. More mobile than Schaub, a tad better arm, been on the big stage plenty of times before, etc. Besides, "top ten QBs" have been replaced before.
 
Bottom line is we need to find a way to score 22, 23 points a game. If our D holds teams to an average of 16-17 a game, then we should do decently enough.
 
Leinart is neither more mobile than Schaub nor does he have a better arm. His defining characteristics are just the opposite.

The problem compounds with the mistake avoidance that Gary has been ingraining in Schaub over the years -- Leinart will take sacks, force throws, fail to check down. This part isn't a knock on Leinart, he just has not had the chance to accumulate the experience.
 
Lets face it Matt L. is the QB for the rest of the season. If your going to the game buy your Leinart jerseys and get your signs ready. He will need our support. Let him know we support him and maybe just maybe his confidence level will raise knowing we are behind him.(Can't hurt can it?)
 
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/11/15/qb-leinart-gets-his-chance-with-texans-in-need
HOUSTON (AP) — Matt Leinart had a quick chat with Andre Johnson before leaving the Texans' locker room on Tuesday to catch a flight home to Southern California.

When he returns next week, Leinart will have a first-place team to lead and Johnson should be healthy enough to help him.

Leinart will be the Texans' starting quarterback in the first game after their bye, at Jacksonville on Nov. 27, because Matt Schaub is out indefinitely with what coach Gary Kubiak termed a "significant" right foot injury.

"I've just got a job to do, be efficient and get the guys and this team in the right situation," Leinart said. "I'm extremely bummed for Matt, just because of what he's put into this organization and to get us to this point. At the same time, it's an opportunity for myself to step up."

It could be Leinart's job for the rest of the season.

Kubiak said Tuesday that Schaub will undergo testing and his status will be determined next week. Schaub's agent, Joby Branion, did not return a phone message.

"We're still evaluating the injury," Kubiak said. "That's going to go on for about a week, and then at some point next week, we'll know whether he has a chance to come back or he doesn't."

Johnson, meanwhile, is expected to return for the Jacksonville game after sitting out six weeks with a right hamstring injury. And that's a comforting notion to Leinart, who hasn't started a game since 2009, when he was with Arizona.

"It's a great offense to be a part of," Leinart said, "and now we get the best receiver in the NFL back, which is awesome to have. That's going to be great."

Even without Johnson, Houston (7-3) has managed to take control of the AFC South by winning its last four games. Arian Foster and Ben Tate both rank among the league's top 10 rushers, and the Texans' top-ranked defense has held its opponents to an average of 10.5 points during the streak.

Leinart had dinner with Schaub on Monday night to go over details and try to make the transition as seamless as possible. He also made Schaub a promise.

"I told Matt that I was going to make him proud and just win games for this team," Leinart said, "because he got us to this point."Given how the Texans have run the ball and shut down opponents over the last month, Leinart doesn't feel like he has to do anything miraculous.

"It's important for me not to feel like I have everything to put on my shoulders, and just go out there and manage the game," Leinart said. "You look at the numbers in the last couple of games, Matt (Schaub) has just gotten us into the right plays, and he's thrown the ball here and there, and we've won the games the old-fashioned way.

"That's all I'm asked to do, and I'm excited about that opportunity."

Houston signed Leinart as a free agent just before the 2010 season, ending the former Southern Cal star's stormy tenure in Arizona. Leinart, a former Heisman Trophy winner, was drafted 10th overall by the Cardinals in 2006, and played in 12 games as a rookie under coach Dennis Green.

Leinart broke his collarbone in 2007, Kurt Warner took over and Leinart mostly watched from the sideline over the next 2½ seasons. Warner retired after the 2009 season, but Leinart clashed with Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt and he was released in September 2010.

He didn't take a snap last season, but felt comfortable enough with Kubiak and QB coach Greg Knapp that he decided to rejoin to the Texans in the offseason.

Their tutoring has restored some of the confidence he lost in Arizona.

"I've been around the league for a while," Leinart said. "Obviously, I haven't had a lot of playing time, but I've been around this game, I've played with some great quarterbacks, I've been on some winning teams. I understand what that takes, I understand what it takes to lead a football team."

The Texans seem to believe in him, too. Other than Leinart throwing left-handed (Schaub throws right-handed), they don't expect the offense to miss a beat.

"If it was a guy coming in and we had never seen a lefty all year, it might be different," said TE Owen Daniels, the team's leading receiver. "But we've been catching passes from Matt (Leinart) all year, so it shouldn't be an issue at all."

The Texans were taking off the rest of the week. Leinart planned to relax and enjoy time at home with his 5-year-old son Cole. And after a mostly frustrating route through the NFL, when he returns to work on Monday, he'll be a starter again at age 28.

"I believe my teammates believe in me and my coaches believe I can get the job done, and that goes a long way in this profession," Leinart said. "And I believe in myself to get the job done. I'm excited just to be playing ball again. It's been a long time, and it's just a great situation to be a part of."
 
Prediction 1: Leinart will look out of synch in his first game, but we'll pull out the win. After that, it will be steady improvement over three games until he really impresses. By the end of the season, he will be on fire and there will be a legit QB controversy.

Prediction 2: Next season, either Schaub or Leinart will be the starter for Washington, reaping us a #1 draft pick. Considering Schaub's rapport with Kyle Shanahan, I'm saying it's Schaub.

Ok, I'm swinging for the fences, but I do envision this.
 
Brisco_County said:
Prediction 1: Leinart will look out of synch in his first game, but we'll pull out the win. After that, it will be steady improvement over three games until he really impresses. By the end of the season, he will be on fire and there will be a legit QB controversy.

Prediction 2: Next season, either Schaub or Leinart will be the starter for Washington, reaping us a #1 draft pick. Considering Schaub's rapport with Kyle Shanahan, I'm saying it's Schaub.

Ok, I'm swinging for the fences, but I do envision this.
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After what happened with Arian Foster, anything is possible.
 
I actually have a feeling that leinart will be very serviceable in the next few games.... He just seems to have that cocky attitude and I think it might help him rise to this occasion... if the texans can pull off 3-4 wins we still make playoffs (most likely) and hopefully by then schaub is good to go!


leinart will be working extra time during the bye week with AJ and the rest of the receivers I have a feeling in my heart that all the players will rise up and show everyone that we are in fact a legitimate contender!

:texan:
 
Brisco_County said:
Prediction 1: Leinart will look out of synch in his first game, but we'll pull out the win. After that, it will be steady improvement over three games until he really impresses. By the end of the season, he will be on fire and there will be a legit QB controversy.

Prediction 2: Next season, either Schaub or Leinart will be the starter for Washington, reaping us a #1 draft pick. Considering Schaub's rapport with Kyle Shanahan, I'm saying it's Schaub.

Ok, I'm swinging for the fences, but I do envision this.
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no way uncle bob lets schaub get traded! I can see if leinart does a good job we trade him for a 3rd rounder maybe a 2nd to a desperate team
 
hot pickle said:
no way uncle bob lets schaub get traded! I can see if leinart does a good job we trade him for a 3rd rounder maybe a 2nd to a desperate team
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It all depends on how Leinart performs, but if he looks like a starter, Washington will pay a premium for one of our QB's.
 
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