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Your Analysis on how the season will go

ComstockLode

Waterboy
atxcoolguy said:
Do you not believe that players improve as time goes by and that offensive and defensive units who play together get better. Look at our top 3 on Offense. Carr has improved every year. Johnson has improved every year. Davis has improved ever year. This applies to alot of the team as well. This is the NFL and if you don't improve, you get cut. as for defensive linemen, i guess you didn't read my whole post where i answered some questions. The Dline this year will be the healthiest since the first season. Payne and Walker are both fully healthy and ready to go. We got the top Lineman in the draft to replace anybody who goes down, its not our weakest spot. I wouldn't see why Babin wouldn't improve over last season and having Peek in there will give us some moe pass rush. As for Carr rolling out prior to this preseason, i really haven't noticed Carr doing that much in the past. have you been watching the ames or what. He usually does a 3-5 step drop, not a big rollout QB. So much pessimism so early in the preseason. we haven't even really got a glimpse of what the season will bring. i know every one says wait until the season starts, but some of the things you're saying are so far off. I just really don't know why you think the whole team is going to regress so much.
I am pessismistic, because we didnt improve our two weakest areas over the offseason. We lost the two veteran leaders of our defense, and replaced them with unproven young players in an already young defense. I think the defense will be worse than last year, and i dont see how the offense will improve over last year.

Like I said, hopefully I am wrong. But I dont see any teams being over .500 with one of the top5 worst offensive lines in the league.

Edit: And yes I watched every game last season as well as being at four of them including the cleveland browns game. Its hard to have any optimism when the cleveland browns defensive line dominated us....

And the wonderful fans start screaming at Carr to throw the ball downfield and I wanted to shove my foot down their throats. I am sorry, but our offensive line is pathetic. PATHETIC.

Get that man some help so he isnt running for his life every f***ing down, or give him a chance to look at someone besides his primary and then immediately to the check down. The statement I hear over and over is that this offensive line just needs experience. No, what this offensive line needs is some new faces. I would prefer to have Carr healthy and around for the length of a long career. Not an injury plagued career.
 

ATX

Hall of Fame
ComstockLode said:
I am pessismistic, because we didnt improve our two weakest areas over the offseason. We lost the two veteran leaders of our defense, and replaced them with unproven young players in an already young defense. I think the defense will be worse than last year, and i dont see how the offense will improve over last year.

Like I said, hopefully I am wrong. But I dont see any teams being over .500 with one of the top5 worst offensive lines in the league.

Edit: And yes I watched every game last season as well as being at four of them including the cleveland browns game. Its hard to have any optimism when the cleveland browns defensive line dominated us....

And the wonderful fans start screaming at Carr to throw the ball downfield and I wanted to shove my foot down their throats. I am sorry, but our offensive line is pathetic. PATHETIC.

Get that man some help so he isnt running for his life every f***ing down, or give him a chance to look at someone besides his primary and then immediately to the check down. The statement I hear over and over is that this offensive line just needs experience. No, what this offensive line needs is some new faces. I would prefer to have Carr healthy and around for the length of a long career. Not an injury plagued career.
Our two weakest areas have been Oline and Dline. I think we improved our Dline alot. Last season is last season, so we have to forget about the cleveland game. that doesn't count any more, its over. In regards to our defense and the new acquistions, we just have to wait and see. but i do know one thing. Glenn and Sharper were on the downside of their career and we needed improvement. both were too slow for our defense to work, so we added faster players. I'm excited about that. i'll just wait to the season to start before i judge our Defense. As for the Offense, barring major injuries, I just don't see why we wouldn't improve if we bring back 10-11 starters from last year. we can't just go out and bring in Free Agents and expect our team to work. we have to develop them into Texans. we're almost there, and i see a bright future. :texflag:
 

TexHorns

Waterboy
Supertex said:
I would like to hear everyones opinion. I will post mine when I have time.
Super Bowl here we come. I cant wait, maybe this year Pam Anderson will do the half-time show.





She could jump up and down a few times then show her left...........................................................forget it.
 

Bubbajwp

All Flopper
The only way the Texans win 10 games is if peyton gets hurt
We still do not have a pass rush
I disagree i think that Peek and TJ will help our pass rush alot :ok:
Andre Johnson is still our only reciever, and if DD has to touch the ball 25+ times a game we will not be winning games, and he will end up missing time again for injuries. All the hits David is taking could end up catching up with him but I hope not.
I agree all the way.
6-10 at worst 10-6 at best
most likely 8-8
 

Marcus

Windmill cancer survivor
Contributor's Club
I think ComstockLoad has made some valid points. And I can't fault him for being pessimistic. I know it busts some peoples bubbles, but he is right when he says the battles are won in the trenches.

The issue that I have with these 10-6 predictions, is that they are based on the 1st-team talent level. I hear this comment all the time. "We have the talent to go to the playoffs, so if they don't, then the coaches are not coaching them right." Or the old reliable, "The playcalling sucks!"

A playoff caliber team in today's NFL has two things. They have both quality talent, and quality depth.. To have quality depth, a team has to meet 3 conditions.

1) Quarterback. You need a reserve quarterback that is capable of leading the team downfield, and putting points on the board.

2) Running back. You need a reserve running back that is capable of rushing for at least 1000 yards a season if he was playing full time.

3) Offensive lineman. You need an reserve offensive lineman that is capable of coming in and filling any position on the line, and be good enough so that defenses don't key on it as a weakness. In other words, good enough to not get your quarterback killed. He can't be some deer-in-the-headlights rookie, or some slug journeyman castoff.

The other positions are important also, but it's possible to 'cheat' your way in anyway if you lose a key player, but those 3 are must haves for a 16-game grind.

Now, I understand that those 3 conditions are difficult given today's salary cap NFL. Those types of reserves cost money. Some teams are able to do it. But these are teams that have been around a lot longer than the Texans.

But the question is . . . for this season, does this team have the quality depth needed to get to the playoffs?

If you take the :homer: glasses off, the answer should be pretty easy.
 

Rightnow

Waterboy
My turn:

Buffalo W No problem here
Pittsburgh L Sorry, but no
Cincinnati L Texans forums melt down
Tennessee W They haven’t gotten better
Seattle L Not sure about this game, maybe a win
Indy L We’ve gotten better, but they are still better than our improved team
Cleveland W Revenge
Jacksonville L They are going to be the real rival in the division for years
Indy L A blow out
Kansas City L Payback for last year
St Louis L They are making a playoff run
Baltimore L They score with their defense as Carr is knocked out of the game thanks to the O-line
Tennessee W Sweep
Arizona W Tough, tough game but we do it
Jacksonville W They won’t sweep us
San Francisco W They have given up all hope

7-9 or 8-8 depending on Seattle

Jacksonville gets a wildcard spot, Indy doesn’t make it to the super bowl again, Palmer stays on and a scapegoat is fired instead, Carr misses some game time due to O-line, DD is too much of the offense again, AJ doesn’t make the Pro Bowl as he is doubled every single play and his stats suffer, some of the losses are directly related to a bad O-line

Until Manning retires or misses a season from injuries we will never win this division. We will always be looking for a wildcard. That means our main rival in the future will be Jacksonville as Tennessee has years of rebuilding to do after McNair retires.
 

ComstockLode

Waterboy
Marcus said:
I think ComstockLoad has made some valid points. And I can't fault him for being pessimistic. I know it busts some peoples bubbles, but he is right when he says the battles are won in the trenches.

The issue that I have with these 10-6 predictions, is that they are based on the 1st-team talent level. I hear this comment all the time. "We have the talent to go to the playoffs, so if they don't, then the coaches are not coaching them right." Or the old reliable, "The playcalling sucks!"

A playoff caliber team in today's NFL has two things. They have both quality talent, and quality depth.. To have quality depth, a team has to meet 3 conditions.

1) Quarterback. You need a reserve quarterback that is capable of leading the team downfield, and putting points on the board.

2) Running back. You need a reserve running back that is capable of rushing for at least 1000 yards a season if he was playing full time.

3) Offensive lineman. You need an reserve offensive lineman that is capable of coming in and filling any position on the line, and be good enough so that defenses don't key on it as a weakness. In other words, good enough to not get your quarterback killed. He can't be some deer-in-the-headlights rookie, or some slug journeyman castoff.

The other positions are important also, but it's possible to 'cheat' your way in anyway if you lose a key player, but those 3 are must haves for a 16-game grind.

Now, I understand that those 3 conditions are difficult given today's salary cap NFL. Those types of reserves cost money. Some teams are able to do it. But these are teams that have been around a lot longer than the Texans.

But the question is . . . for this season, does this team have the quality depth needed to get to the playoffs?

If you take the :homer: glasses off, the answer should be pretty easy.

In so many words I agree with everything you pointed out.

Our depth scares me. Someone on this team that is very important will get hurt for a substantial amount of time. This happens to every team every year. Just hope it isnt Carr or Johnson, or you can really expect a great season.

I know alot of people hate palmer, but the playcalling isnt so much the problem, it is the personnel. He has tried to limit the sacks by alot of 3 and 5 step drops. The opposing defenses get alot of pressure, and we run alot of screen plays to DD. Seems like good coaching to me. Bottomline I will throw this stat at you one more time. We were 24th in the league in passing attempts, yet we were 7th in the league in sacks allowed....which is besides the fact that we probably run the most 3 step drops in the league.

If anyone should be on the chopping block it is casserly.
 

ATX

Hall of Fame
Marcus said:
A playoff caliber team in today's NFL has two things. They have both quality talent, and quality depth.. To have quality depth, a team has to meet 3 conditions.

1) Quarterback. You need a reserve quarterback that is capable of leading the team downfield, and putting points on the board.

2) Running back. You need a reserve running back that is capable of rushing for at least 1000 yards a season if he was playing full time.

3) Offensive lineman. You need an reserve offensive lineman that is capable of coming in and filling any position on the line, and be good enough so that defenses don't key on it as a weakness. In other words, good enough to not get your quarterback killed. He can't be some deer-in-the-headlights rookie, or some slug journeyman castoff.
1. Tony Banks isn't a bad backup for QB. Who does New England, Philly, Indy, and Atlanta have for backups? are they any better than Banks?
2. If DD were to go down, I think Wells or Hollings, or a combination could step up and give 1,000 yards, but 1,000 yards isn't all that much by today's NFL standards. If you took Wells' numbers 82 carries for 299 yards and gave him 302 like DD had, he would have 1087 yards, averaging 3.6 yards to DD's 3.9 yards per carry.
3. now this is the weakness of the team as it always has been. guess we'll have to wait and see how they do.
 

Waltman

Noob
A wild card spot is better than nothing and that's all we need to do some damage in the playoffs. I think we are going raise a few eyebrows this year. There's always a couple of teams that sleep on us and if we could just beat the one's we're suppose to, we will be in the playoffs whether by wild card or out right taking it. This is the year. :ok: :texflag:
 

NoBullTexan

Waterboy
ComstockLode said:
In so many words I agree with everything you pointed out.

I know alot of people hate palmer, but the playcalling isnt so much the problem, it is the personnel. He has tried to limit the sacks by alot of 3 and 5 step drops. The opposing defenses get alot of pressure, and we run alot of screen plays to DD. Seems like good coaching to me. Bottomline I will throw this stat at you one more time. We were 24th in the league in passing attempts, yet we were 7th in the league in sacks allowed....which is besides the fact that we probably run the most 3 step drops in the league.[/B]

If anyone should be on the chopping block it is casserly.
Why in the heck should you say Casserly should be on the chopping block? The Dude has done an excellent job of making something out of nothing four years ago. Everything this team is, or hopes to be, is because of Charley's efforts.

It is not Palmer's game calling in the past that is so galling, it is Caper's philosophy of Keep It Close till the Fourth Quarter, and then Try to Win It Then! At some point you have to start coaching a more up field, put in the air type of game, especially when the league is dedicated to doing it that way. Do we have the personnel right now to do it, especially on the OL, Maybe not, but you will have to start coaching it, at some point, to really find out if these guys can learn pass blocking or not. :texans:
 

Wolf

100% Texan
NoBullTexan said:
Why in the heck should you say Casserly should be on the chopping block? The Dude has done an excellent job of making something out of nothing four years ago. Everything this team is, or hopes to be, is because of Charley's efforts.

It is not Palmer's game calling in the past that is so galling, it is Caper's philosophy of Keep It Close till the Fourth Quarter, and then Try to Win It Then! At some point you have to start coaching a more up field, put in the air type of game, especially when the league is dedicated to doing it that way. Do we have the personnel right now to do it, especially on the OL, Maybe not, but you will have to start coaching it, at some point, to really find out if these guys can learn pass blocking or not. :texans:
exactly... you can insert Jeff Fisher where Capers name is .. because that was the complaints about Jeff when he took over the Oilers
 

infantrycak

Hall of Fame
ComstockLode said:
we run alot of screen plays to DD. Seems like good coaching to me. Bottomline I will throw this stat at you one more time. We were 24th in the league in passing attempts, yet we were 7th in the league in sacks allowed....which is besides the fact that we probably run the most 3 step drops in the league.[/B]

If anyone should be on the chopping block it is casserly.
Sorry, but no. Have to watch what is going on a little more closely. Designed screens to DD have almost never been the call the last two years. In 2003 3 step drops were frequent, but not last year.

As for the stats, maybe a more in depth look would be usefull:

23rd completions per game
11th on completion %
16th on yards
14th on 1st downs

Seems the passing O wasn't quite as bad as made out.
 

ComstockLode

Waterboy
infantrycak said:
Sorry, but no. Have to watch what is going on a little more closely. Designed screens to DD have almost never been the call the last two years. In 2003 3 step drops were frequent, but not last year.

As for the stats, maybe a more in depth look would be usefull:

23rd completions per game
11th on completion %
16th on yards
14th on 1st downs

Seems the passing O wasn't quite as bad as made out.
I am not attacking the passing offense as a whole, I am attacking the offensive line.
 

bills_phan

Practice Squad
Hervoyel said:
11-5 and it happens like this (Copied from a previous thread)


09.11 at Buffalo: W

New starting QB and the Texans remembering what happened against San Diego in the 2004 opener. I think the team takes this one seriously and we go 1-0
3960AD said:
2002- 4-12
2003- 5-11
2004- 7-9

2005- 11-5
Wins: Buffalo, Cincinnati, Tennessee, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Arizona, Tennessee, Jacksonville, San Francisco.
SESupergenius said:
8-8


09.11 at Buffalo: W

I think we win with this one, despite having trouble with their defense.
bckey said:
Buffalo W Losman is too green to handle the defense
texasguy346 said:
10 - 6

09.11 at Buffalo: Win - I think Losman will get rattled by the Texans defense. The Bills defense will be tough, but the Texans manage to get the W.
Rightnow said:
My turn:

Buffalo W No problem here
Well, here's my first post, and all I've got to say is...WOW.

I guess I didn't realize how far the expansion Texans have come in the past couple of years. There seems to be a lot of confidence about the opener from the fans here, but I wouldn't look past the Bills and thier #2 defense (#1 in takeaways btw) if I were you, especially at HOME. Actually, on second thought, I hope the Texan players share your confidence and look ahead to Pittsburgh. If they do, I don't think I'm out of line in predicting an 0-2 start for the horns.

I'm not really here to talk smack, but geez...have some respect for the D. Espeically with your O-line and Carr's habit of holding the ball too long!


GO BILLS!!!
 
bills_phan said:
Well, here's my first post, and all I've got to say is...WOW.

I guess I didn't realize how far the expansion Texans have come in the past couple of years. There seems to be a lot of confidence about the opener from the fans here, but I wouldn't look past the Bills and thier #2 defense (#1 in takeaways btw) if I were you, especially at HOME. Actually, on second thought, I hope the Texan players share your confidence and look ahead to Pittsburgh. If they do, I don't think I'm out of line in predicting an 0-2 start for the horns.

I'm not really here to talk smack, but geez...have some respect for the D. Espeically with your O-line and Carr's habit of holding the ball too long!


GO BILLS!!!

Thanks for the advice, but I think this town still has some payback to beat into the bills.

Not that we think about "THAT" game very much.
 

bills_phan

Practice Squad
Austin_Texans_Fan said:
Thanks for the advice, but I think this town still has some payback to beat into the bills.

Not that we think about "THAT" game very much.
We in Buffalo think of the Music City Forward Lateral as payback for The Comeback. I know that doesn't help you guys, but it was the same franchise. You guys got a fresh start with the Texans!
 
bills_phan said:
We in Buffalo think of the Music City Forward Lateral as payback for The Comeback. I know that doesn't help you guys, but it was the same franchise. You guys got a fresh start with the Texans!
Well at least we can both agree that the Titans suck..... :texflag:

See yeah in a few weeks.
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
bills_phan said:
Well, here's my first post, and all I've got to say is...WOW.

I guess I didn't realize how far the expansion Texans have come in the past couple of years. There seems to be a lot of confidence about the opener from the fans here, but I wouldn't look past the Bills and thier #2 defense (#1 in takeaways btw) if I were you, especially at HOME. Actually, on second thought, I hope the Texan players share your confidence and look ahead to Pittsburgh. If they do, I don't think I'm out of line in predicting an 0-2 start for the horns.

I'm not really here to talk smack, but geez...have some respect for the D. Espeically with your O-line and Carr's habit of holding the ball too long!


GO BILLS!!!
I'm predicting a win for the Texans based on that exact same sentiment. I don't believe the Texans will overlook the Bills even a little bit. Yes the Texans have come far in their 3 seasons and yes, the narrowly lost to the bills in 2002, then narrowly beat them in 2003. None of that matters here. The reason the Texans come to play has more to do with their growth and the way they finished 2004 against the Cleveland Browns. Against the skid marks we got owned and the team has had an entire offseason to dwell on that game.

I expect them to start the season very focused. At worst (for us) we're going to give the Bills a real challenge to start their year. At best (again, for us) we're going to win on the road to start our year.

Being a Texans fan I'm obliged to predict it our way.
 

RalphJr

Practice Squad
Hervoyel said:
The reason the Texans come to play has more to do with their growth and the way they finished 2004 against the Cleveland Browns. Against the skid marks we got owned and the team has had an entire offseason to dwell on that game.
Bills are in a similar situation, after winning 6 straight and then BLOWING IT against Pitt's second string for a playoff berth. That is clearly a game that stuck in a lot of Buffalo players' craws. ESPECIALLY the Defense and Takeo.

I hope both teams are focused, cuz just as Buffalo had no business losing to the second stringers of Pitt, you guys had no business losing to one of the (if not THE) worst teams in the league. Both teams are better than that.

23 days and counting! :hyper:
 

Marcus

Windmill cancer survivor
Contributor's Club
For all you 10-6 ers out there:

With 3 weeks to go, you still have plenty of time to change your predictions as you watch more and more preseason games.

Just letting you know you have that option. :tiptoe:
 

ComstockLode

Waterboy
ComstockLode said:
Regarding the pass rush: What has improved since last year? We are relying on the same defensive linemen to take up blocks and create a push on the pocket. Our outside pass rush was non existent last year plain and simple. We only had 24 sacks total last year..... That is it. That is horrible.
That is the worst in the whole NFL!!!! How did we improve this situation? We hope a second year OLB who overachieved last year to suddenly put up double digit sacks?

Our offensive line: We have the same players from last year. We did not improve. You cant get lemonade out of a terd. Our offensive line is sorry. Period. It isnt good. You can have ten years of experience together and they would still suck. At no position except right tackle are we even above average.

We were seventh in the league in sacks allowed. We were 24th in the league in yards per rushing attempt. How does that sound good anyway you look at it?

Quarterback: David Carr has done amazing considering the slop that is in front of him. He has gotten lucky not to get injured thus far. You can only play russian roulette so many times before you will lose. He takes some ridiculous hits even though half of his passes are rollouts and three step drops to avoid him from getting nailed every other play.

Look at that sacks stat one more time. Seventh in the league in sacks. And I guarentee we were in the top 5 in the league in three step drops. Maybe this will sink in to you. We were 24th in the league in passing attempts in the league, yet were 7th in the league in sacks per game. Let me repeat that is horrible!

Andre Johnson: He put up most of his stats early in the season before teams figured out they could roll all their coverage over to him

Results: Last 4 games of the season he put up 34, 31, 46, and 13 yards recieving.

Will he put up stats like that all of next year? Of course not he is a legitimate star reciever in this league. But I am going to suggest that his stats will decline through no fault of his own, but the fault of the offensive line and no secondary reciever to take any pressure off of him. Gaffney's best plays last year came from reverses....

I know its hard to be anything but loyal to the players on this team for you. But our offensive line/defensive line play is well below average.

And I am a firm believer that the game is won and lost in the trenches, and we are bad on both sides of the trenches.

I also am very skeptical about greenwood living up to what sharper does. He could and I hope he has an amazing season, but in reality I dont expect him too. Plus you have a former defensive end in college moving to the other MLB spot, and we might have a problem stopping the run.

Just so you know, I am hoping I am proved wronged and we go 10-6 and make the playoffs. But why dont you check the lines in vegas and see where they expect us to finish.

The line is 7.5 Do what you want with it.
After another preseason game it still looks like everything I have said so far is still a problem.

But of course its only preseason, but I saw the same problems we had last year....
 

Fritz5000

Practice Squad
You hit the nail on the head! We have very little to be exited about this year. No drastic changes in our O line, a mediocre receiving core, zero pass rush and a "D+" defensive secondary. I'm a huge Texans fan, but I don't see them winning more than 8 games this season.

I did see some positive things during the Oakland game from a few new guys like Morency and Swinton. Mathis could be a difference maker after a year or two as he gains some experience and confidence. My biggest complaint year after year is the conservative play calling. Until we start throwing the ball downfield, defenses will continue to play our predictable run game and our average points per game will be held to below 20. We wont win many games on fieldgoals alone.
 

Grid

All Pro
"You hit the nail on the head! We have very little to be exited about this year. No drastic changes in our O line, a mediocre receiving core, zero pass rush and a "D+" defensive secondary. I'm a huge Texans fan"

lol: lol: lol: lol:


Hyprocrisy at its best.

BTW.. we have the second best receiving corp in our division.. and id say we rank in the top 10, or close to it, in the league. And we have one of the best defensive secondaries in the league.
 

ComstockLode

Waterboy
Fritz5000 said:
You hit the nail on the head! We have very little to be exited about this year. No drastic changes in our O line, a mediocre receiving core, zero pass rush and a "D+" defensive secondary. I'm a huge Texans fan, but I don't see them winning more than 8 games this season.

I did see some positive things during the Oakland game from a few new guys like Morency and Swinton. Mathis could be a difference maker after a year or two as he gains some experience and confidence. My biggest complaint year after year is the conservative play calling. Until we start throwing the ball downfield, defenses will continue to play our predictable run game and our average points per game will be held to below 20. We wont win many games on fieldgoals alone.
I can answer your sarcastic remarks pretty easily actually.

I think our Oline is unacceptable and our team did nothing in the offseason to improve it. I have a huge problem with that.

Our pass rush was the worst in the league. I have a huge problem with that.

Games are won and lose at the line of scrimmage.

I am a realist. I try not to wear the homer glasses when cheering for my team. It also doesnt set myself up for a huge disappointment if the team does alot worse than I expect.

If you want me to throw out optimism here it is:

Domanick Davis was an incredible diamond in the rough and we are lucky to have him. I do not think he has injury problems because he is injury prone, I think he touches the ball WAY too many times a game for him to have a healthy career.

David Carr was worth the number 1 pick. And what he has done with that offensive line in front of him was amazing last year.

Andre Johnson is a beast. Nothing else needs to be said.

Dunta Robinson is a beast. Nothing else needs to be said.

We have a top 10 secondary this year.

Babin was worth trading up for. He has been impressive thus far.

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Now on to your comments. Our secondary cannot be as effective as they can be without a pass rush. You cannot expect Deion Sanders in his prime to cover a reciever for 5 plus seconds muchless our secondary. We will get burned until we learn to get pressure on the QB.

Your assumption that we dont throw the ball enough downfield is wrong in my opinion. You cannot throw the ball downfield unless you have the protection. The only way our team has been able to throw the ball downfield has been in max protection sets where we only send out 2 wide recievers. The problem with throwing the ball downfield to andre in these situations is that he is being double teamed on every play. And although andre is amazing, I dont like his chances most of the time through double teams.

Ask the redskins two years ago what happens when you try to throw the ball downfield without the offensive line capabilities to do it. Your QB gets murdered.

Bottomline, I hope I am a complete ***** and all of you get to talk mess about how wrong I was as we make our first trip into the playoffs.

But my honest opinion is what it is.

My optimistic side says our offensive line meshes together and that was our only problem, and DD puts up 1500, David puts up a 3-1 TD-INT ratio. But if I look at it realistically, I really dont see that happening.
 

mancunian

Old Timer
We'll be 9 -7 but miss the play offs.

AFC Playoff teams
Patriots, San Diego, Steelers, Colts, Bengals and Jaguars.

If there's no winning season Capers will be gone.

I like Gary Kubiack the Broncos Offensive Co-ordinator, they usually have pretty good O- line with plenty 1000 yard rushers over the last few years.
 

disaacks3

Moderator
Staff member
Grid said:
"You hit the nail on the head! We have very little to be exited about this year. No drastic changes in our O line, a mediocre receiving core, zero pass rush and a "D+" defensive secondary. I'm a huge Texans fan"

Hyprocrisy at its best.

BTW.. we have the second best receiving corp in our division.. and id say we rank in the top 10, or close to it, in the league. And we have one of the best defensive secondaries in the league.
Yep, another person mentions flaws in the Texans "jewel" and is labeled a hypocrite. I guess true fans aren't allowed to "call it as they see it", huh?

2nd best receiving core? Based on what? Yes, AJ is a top-five guy, but what comes after that? Gaffney made great strides last year, but he's not a legitimate #2 threat (yet) that we hoped when he was drafted 33rd overall. Beyond that, we have the journeyman Bradford who is as hot & cold a guy as there is. We have lots of 'potential' in the rest, but no proven players.

One of the best secondaries? Once again, we've got one stud (Robinson) and then it's a total crapshoot. P-Buc looked ABYSMAL on the Raiders first two series Saturday night (after looking sluggish in the opener). His "Ole" tackle on the 1st drive was especially impressive, let me tell you... :ok:

The offseason rebuilding of the Defense hasn't looked that fantastic as yet. This year's first pick nearly got knocked on his keister by a One-Handed shove from Gallery. Our non-Blitz pass rush is non-existant. The Texans have lots of "potential", but until we turn that talent into a consistent "W" against such powerhouses as Cleveland, it'll be hard for the league to take us seriously.
 

wags

Veteran
disaacks3 said:
His "Ole" tackle on the 1st drive was especially impressive, let me tell you... :ok:
I was waiting for someone to mention that. The best part is the announcer was saying how Buchanan was a sure tackler. :confused:
 

Crank_It_Up

Waterboy
a combination of their opponents and the texans progress will yield a horrible start for the season... 3-9 after the first 12 games, however they will win at least 3 or 4 of their last 4 games, creating some hope for next year when they will make the playoffs.
 

ComstockLode

Waterboy
ComstockLode said:
Regarding the pass rush: What has improved since last year? We are relying on the same defensive linemen to take up blocks and create a push on the pocket. Our outside pass rush was non existent last year plain and simple. We only had 24 sacks total last year..... That is it. That is horrible.
That is the worst in the whole NFL!!!! How did we improve this situation? We hope a second year OLB who overachieved last year to suddenly put up double digit sacks?

Our offensive line: We have the same players from last year. We did not improve. You cant get lemonade out of a terd. Our offensive line is sorry. Period. It isnt good. You can have ten years of experience together and they would still suck. At no position except right tackle are we even above average.

We were seventh in the league in sacks allowed. We were 24th in the league in yards per rushing attempt. How does that sound good anyway you look at it?

Quarterback: David Carr has done amazing considering the slop that is in front of him. He has gotten lucky not to get injured thus far. You can only play russian roulette so many times before you will lose. He takes some ridiculous hits even though half of his passes are rollouts and three step drops to avoid him from getting nailed every other play.

Look at that sacks stat one more time. Seventh in the league in sacks. And I guarentee we were in the top 5 in the league in three step drops. Maybe this will sink in to you. We were 24th in the league in passing attempts in the league, yet were 7th in the league in sacks per game. Let me repeat that is horrible!

Andre Johnson: He put up most of his stats early in the season before teams figured out they could roll all their coverage over to him

Results: Last 4 games of the season he put up 34, 31, 46, and 13 yards recieving.

Will he put up stats like that all of next year? Of course not he is a legitimate star reciever in this league. But I am going to suggest that his stats will decline through no fault of his own, but the fault of the offensive line and no secondary reciever to take any pressure off of him. Gaffney's best plays last year came from reverses....

I know its hard to be anything but loyal to the players on this team for you. But our offensive line/defensive line play is well below average.

And I am a firm believer that the game is won and lost in the trenches, and we are bad on both sides of the trenches.

I also am very skeptical about greenwood living up to what sharper does. He could and I hope he has an amazing season, but in reality I dont expect him too. Plus you have a former defensive end in college moving to the other MLB spot, and we might have a problem stopping the run.

Just so you know, I am hoping I am proved wronged and we go 10-6 and make the playoffs. But why dont you check the lines in vegas and see where they expect us to finish.

The line is 7.5 Do what you want with it.
Wow.... This guy above sounds smart even though he said this before the preseason even started....
 

ComstockLode

Waterboy
ComstockLode said:
I may get blasted for it, but I am completely honest and am not trying to upset anyone.

I think we will go 6-10.

We still do not have a pass rush and we still have the same offensive line that got dominated by cleveland last game of the season. Andre Johnson is still our only reciever, and if DD has to touch the ball 25+ times a game we will not be winning games, and he will end up missing time again for injuries. All the hits David is taking could end up catching up with him but I hope not.

With an offensive line and a second wideout he is a top 10 QB in the league. But until he gets either or both of those things, he will not be able to step his game up to the next level in my opinion. Thank god we didnt get harrington, because what Carr has done with the talent around him is amazing. And harrington is struggling with alot more.

I think Andre Johnson will still be a man among boys, but his production will be down with double teams non stop all season.

I think babin and dunta will continue to improve, but overall our defense will be about average in the league without a pass rush, and having to face indy twice.

Coupled with the fact that we have no depth at any position on the field other than maybe linebacker and maybe HB, we will have injuries as all teams do, and I see us struggling to win any games on the road.
Wow this also looks like a good prediction thus far.
 

cuppacoffee

Resident Grouch
ComstockLode said:
Would anyone else like to flame me???

Or maybe no one likes honesty around here?
Feels good does it?? :D

Maybe the Texans could schedule LA-L and Rice.
Nah...they would probably beat the Texans too. :jk:

cac: :coffee:
 

ComstockLode

Waterboy
cuppacoffee said:
Feels good does it?? :D

Maybe the Texans could schedule LA-L and Rice.
Nah...they would probably beat the Texans too. :jk:

cac: :coffee:
No it just disgusts me when people call me out and say I am a pessimist. It was the truth. The team is awful.

The point matt jackson made time and time again was the best. We only have three players on this team that are above average. And they are Dunta, Andre, and Davis.

How do you expect to win games, with every player being average or below average with only three above average players?

My point was made, so alot of you should learn to wise up before you talk about people just being negative because we didnt draft DJ. (even though we should of)

We are a better team than we have played, and we will play better. But my points about our offensive line, second wideout, and front seven all seem correct. They all suck
 
ComstockLode said:
No it just disgusts me when people call me out and say I am a pessimist. It was the truth. The team is awful.

The point matt jackson made time and time again was the best. We only have three players on this team that are above average. And they are Dunta, Andre, and Davis.

How do you expect to win games, with every player being average or below average with only three above average players?

My point was made, so alot of you should learn to wise up before you talk about people who are alot about negativity.

We are a better team than we have played, and we will play better. But my points about our offensive line, second wideout, and front seven all seem correct. They all suck

MUCH respect to you for being honest ..i see realistically a 5-11 or 6-10 too..no way this team goes 9-7 or 10-6 based on their 2 performances..thank you for being honest the homers just want to drink kool aid not truth serum
 
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