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  1. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=citadel-2_360925_116&prov=citadel&type=story

    they didn't seem to go out on a limb on this.
    I will be suprised if we go find a replacement for Earl at this time..
     
  2. ArlingtonTexan

    ArlingtonTexan Moderator Staff Member

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    I keep missing what Gleen Earl did so terribly last year after he was the starter. We know that Eric Brown was not effective, but Earl did not seem to be the negative that the internet scouts want to make him out to be.
     
  3. D-ReK

    D-ReK RAWWWRR!

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    It's easy to see that Earl is being used as a scapegoat by the internet scouts...Our pass defense was in the bottom third of the league, if I remember correctly, and of course that needs to be remedied...These "scouts" look over our depth chart and see D-Rob, Glenn, and Coleman and think, "They're all solid players, so it must be the 4th round rookie strong safety's fault," completely overlooking the real problem, which is the lack of a pass rush...
     
  4. Hottoddie

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    I agree. But, if they were looking to take another SS in the draft, look for them to make a run at James Sanders, if he's there in the late rounds. With the release of Brown, they just might draft another SS in the late rounds.

    JAMES SANDERS

    OVERVIEW

    A physical defender who can cover and hit, Sanders was considered one of the top defenders in the Western Athletic Conference. The Fresno State staff called Sanders the best defensive back to ever wear a Bulldogs uniform. The coaches cite his football intelligence and stellar play for the team's defensive accomplishments in 2004. The Fresno State squad ranked fourth in the nation in passing defense efficiency that season, with a mark of 97.9 and led the conference in total defense, allowing only 331.7 yards per game.

    ANALYSIS

    Positives:
    Shows good upper body definition, with a thick chest, broad shoulders, good arms, tight waist, good bubble and hamstrings … Plays hard consistently, and has a non-stop motor … Has good balance and body control with quickness and better-than-average speed … Good open field tackler who might not be as athletic as the Rams' Adam Archuleta, but shows the same desire and urgency in getting to the football, especially in backside pursuit … Anticipates and accelerates to the ball with no hesitation … Ball-hawk type with that "go up and get it" attitude to the thrown pass, doing a very good job of timing his leaps … Has a very sharp burst to the ball and stays in control when he gets to it … Has the athletic ability and body control to adjust to the ball … Good open-field tackler who can chase down the plays along the perimeter … Effective wrap-up tackler who is better making plays in the open field or in the backfield rather than at the line of scrimmage … Has the football savvy needed to read, react and cover ground vs. plays in front of him in zone coverage … Has a good feel for the receiver in the zone, getting a quick jump on the ball once he locates it … Flies to the football with good speed … The type of defender who looks natural looking the ball in, extending for it at its high point with hands extended away from the frame … Plays with good functional strength and hits with explosion as a tackler … Has an effective swim move to slip off the blocker's shoulder coming off the edge … Times his hits and when he lowers the boom, the receiver will feel it for several plays … Very good at anticipating the snap count and finding a clear lane to disrupt action in the backfield.

    Negatives: … While he has good strength, he does not possess great bulk … Can get stonewalled at the line of scrimmage by the offensive linemen due to size issues … Needs to stay in control, as he sometimes is so intent on attacking the ball, he forgets to wrap, secure and tackle … Susceptible to play action, but has the foot quickness to recover … Has good open field acceleration, but lacks the top-end speed to stay with the speedy receivers on deep routes … Backpedal needs refinement, as he looks slow trying to open his hips and turn in transition … Good in man coverage vs. the tight ends and backs, but his hip stiffness prevents him from turning and mirroring outside the short area … Better working outside the box, as his lack of bulk causes him to get bounced around when trying to work through trash.


    AGILITY
    4.63 in the 40-yard dash … 320-pound bench press … 35½-inch vertical jump.
     
  5. keyfro

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    yeah what the internet scouts don't know is a lot of the passing yards we gave up were because of inaffective linebackers who couldn't cover guys like antonio gates, dallas clark, or kyle brady of all people...foreman always looked loss out there and babin was learning the justs of coverage...you throw payton manning at us twice a year with his offense there is no wonder why we were in the bottom third in pass defense...duh :wacko:
     
  6. Errant Hothy

    Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity

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    It's an articel written by Lane Adkins...who?...that's right the great Lane Adkins, you know the great sports reported from yahoo.com, you lnow the definitive source for sports news. I mean c'mon this guy is NEVER wrong. :listening :listening :listening
     
  7. gg no re

    gg no re iggnorent

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    Doesn't the entire AFC South rank dead last in pass defense?
     
  8. keyfro

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    yes for the most part the entire afc south ranks at the bottom of the list
     
  9. TexansTrueFan

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    we have a secondary that has the ability to be one of the top in the league, if the DL can get a little pressure on the QB, so he wont have all day to throw the ball than our secondary wouldnt have to chase WR around the field all day, which i'm sure is not an easy job. We need just a few more pieces/healthy players in place and we will have a top ranked Defense/secondary !
     
  10. Texansbacker

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    So what is the general consensus on Glenn Earl? I was really hoping from all they hype surrounding his selection that he was going to be the next coming of Blaine Bishop or Bubba McDowell.

    The Oilers had some great Defenses I would like to rekindle again in H-town.

    Check out this link to some pictures of the old timers from the Oilers.

    http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/tenhou/houoilerspics.html
     
  11. TexansTrueFan

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    i think earl played the position very well when he stepped in but some on this board dont think so, say he's poor in coverage, i persoanlly never say him give up and big pass plays. But he was good against the run !
     
  12. Texansbacker

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    And wasn't Earl still recovering from a knee injury? I would think coming into the NFL as a rookie at less than 100% would be difficult for even the best athletes. I hope he is a terror in camp this year!! I am also hoping for Joppru to bust out and be a real gem but then again I was hoping that last year. However, patience is a virtue.
     
  13. TexansTrueFan

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    i think a lot of people forget that Earl was still recovering from knee surgrey and wasnt 100%, he was prolly still pretty cautious !
     
  14. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    I read all the posts and don't recall much of this kind of comment if any. You could point it out to me if you would be so good, but I think you are just commenting just to comment again.

    The Texans defense had its best moments once he started at the end of the year.

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/fb/nfl/3103909
     
  15. wags

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    I don't think you can attribute that to Earl though. Just like it would be unfair to say that our defense is best when Marcus Coleman is on IR.
     
  16. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    Earl solidified a problem position. I think he had something to do with our defense improving. I don't think it is a coincidence like you imply.
     
  17. texasguy346

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    I think Earl made his own contribution to the defense improving, but I think the maturation of Babin and Robinson was key as well. The intensity I saw in the Texans defense in the beginning and the end of the season was like day and night. If they continue to improve like they have we should have a formidable defense for years to come.
     
  18. TexansTrueFan

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    ok Vinny well i couldnt find the Earl thread, and i think earl helped out or D, it seemed when Brown was in there we were always getting burned deep (he had no coverage skills) !!! But i was just implying that there WAS a thread talking about Earl and there WAS quite a few people talking about how we need to draft for the postion cause Earl was not starting quality, if you'd like to try to find the post be my guest, cause i couldnt.
     
  19. wags

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    Dunta was really good during the latter part of the season, and I think Babin played well also. D-Rob is going to be the leader of our defense next year IMO.

    As far as Earl goes, I think it's hard to argue he's good or bad. The man didn't do a whole lot. It's hard to say he looked good or bad, because he was almost invisible at times. I think if a safety deserves credit for the end of the season it would have to be McCree. He filled in for Coleman and actually played well.
     
  20. Vinny

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    Since he wasn't isolated and lit up I think that it is a good sign. When you are a weak link you get picked on. Matt Stevens, Eric Brown and Jay Foreman can tell you that.
     

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