XFL Revival?

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

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    The Houston XFL team has a HC..............June Jones. It's the 3rd Houston professional football team he's led..........The Gamblers and the Oilers being the 1st two. I for one am excited and this move itself will be enough for me to watch and follow the team.
     
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    Mark Berman‏@MarkBermanFox26

    Sources: @XFL2020 will name Houston attorney Brian Michael Cooper as the president of its Houston franchise (@XFLHouston). Cooper is the former president of the Rio Grande Valley Vipers, the G League affiliate of the Rockets, & has also worked in the athletics department at Rice
     
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    Trying to sneak a bit of Houston history in on us, first with the rumors of Jeff Fisher, and now hiring June Jones. I'll watch them anyway, just cause they're a Houston team. We still don't know the team name.
     
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    Spend the money. Buy the rights to the Gambler name, colors and logo.

    League can't oppose the name now that Vegas is in the mix.

    :coffee:
     
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    Houston Scoresalots.....fitting name for a June Jones offense.
     
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    Any bets on if this league lasts a full season through all it's playoffs? There are no team owners in the XFL, all the teams are owned by the league, which means vince Mcmahon owns all the teams. At least Vince has more money than the AAF did. Maybe.

    I'll be interested in how many fans show up in Cougar stadium to watch.
     
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    Pretty sure just about every business venture Vince McMahon's been involved in besides WWE has failed miserably.

    Just sayin..
     
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    These spring leagues never last, and a pro league in the fall would be insanely stupid. But I'm always a sucker to watch them anyways.
     
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    Recap of the Press Conference
    • They had known for two weeks that June Jones had accepted the XFL Houston head coaching job
    • Jones was approached by the XFL and said no initially
    • Thought about it more and thought how fun it would be to turn Wide receivers and quarterbacks and turn them into players in a new league
    • On the CFL competing with the XFL for players, “There are a ton of guys out there that just don’t get chances”
    • Lived in Houston from 1984 to 1990 so had ties with the area.
    • Realized he wanted the job so he called them back and said he was interested
    • Thought the AAF was haphazardly put together
    • He is in a position where he doesn’t have to the work in the XFL but he wants to do it
    • Likes to find players and make them into something
    Looks like Jones fits the mold Oliver Luck and the XFL are looking for. Guys, who want to help build the league. To watch the full press conference head over to ticats.ca.
     
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    XFL PLAYERS
    Luck On Colin Kaepernick And Johnny Manziel In The XF
    XFL Commissioner and CEO Oliver Luck joined The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Limato talk about the XFL and why spring football can work.

    Luck talked about what makes the XFL different from the AAF, what rules the league is working on and if QB’s John Manziel and Colin Kaepernick are welcome in the XFL.

    • Chance to work for a Football league startup is what drew him out of his NCAA job
    • Believes there is a market for Spring Football after the Super Bowl. “(Spring) is a quiet time in the sports world.”
    • Vince McMahon is the one and the only person with the money. No need to deal with multiple investors and he can focus on the league. Different from the AAF
    • Vince McMahon’s capital gives the league time and money to get things in place to have a successful league
    • QB talent is critical for the league and they pay more money for those players
    • Only 32 teams in the NFL with two slots typically for QBs. He feels there is a ton of talent out there not on NFL teams
    • Quarterbacks are the top of the food chain
    • 12 innovations the XFL is working on. See Luck On XFL Overtime, 1, 2 or 3 Point Conversions, Manziel for details
    • Vince McMahon wants a stand-alone league not affiliated with the NFL. Has no interest in selling the league to the NFL
    • College football is the developmental league for the NFL
    • XFL broadcast partners like the XFL Overtime rules
    • Open to John Manziel playing in the XFL as long, he fits the behavioral standards of the league and the coaches feel like he’s good enough. XFL has had no contact with him
    • Same applies to Colin Kaepernick, doesn’t know if he is in shape or not. Not sure he would be interested in playing in the XFL based on the rumored salary requirements. We reported Colin Kaepernick Wanted $20 Million To Play In XFL here. But he would be open to him as well.
    On the Colin Kaepernick part of the story. The media has been reporting this story as “XFL commissioner and CEO Oliver Luck seems open to having Johnny Manziel in the league, but doesn’t seem as open to Colin Kaepernick.” If you listen to the interview he has the same interest in both players but Kaepernick probably wouldn’t want to play in the XFL. Listen for your self at the (9:12 mark)
     
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    With Bob Stoops as head coach and GM, and Daryl Johnson as director of player personnel, the Dallas XFL team is laying the basics to a good infrastructure.
     
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    Has Johnston accomplished anything as an exec to warrant such good vibes?
     
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    Other than having more experience than a lot of the others in the XFL in his position, maybe not. The Houston's team "President" experience is running a minor league basketball team. There's a bit of difference there, but whether either of them succeed, or even if the XFL lives very long, is still in the future.
     
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    This is still going to be equivalent to double A baseball. That alone will keep it from becoming anything big. They'll last longer than the AAF because they've got the financial backing but you're not going to have sold out stadiums and big tv ratings for a sub par talent pro league.

    If this league does anything it should put an end to any more ideas of creating and making a successful non-NFL backed league. They have the finances to withstand a first few seasons of losses, so if they can't do it, no one will.

    Now, if McMahon were to directly compete with the NFL and get top talent like the AFL did back in the day, or even the USFL who eventually ran out of money, with his financial backing maybe that becomes something. I heard he was willing to lose up to $500M. But a league of double A talent just isn't going to appeal to the masses. No matter how video game like you make it with double forward passes and 3 point PATs.

    And even with the USFL taking talent the likes of Herschel Walker and Jim Kelly, they only had 2 or 3 teams average over 40,000 in attendance with the league average being just 24,000. Had they had more time and money, maybe they make more of it, but it just shows you how difficult an endeavor it is to get a non-NFL league going and making money. Especially one with nowhere near that level of talent.
     
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    I'm gonna keep an open mind bout the team too and here's a prediction - the Houston XFL team will have a better nickname than the NFL version.
     
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    Well now admittedly "Texans" is going to be an easy name to beat. :lol:
     
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    It already does..
     
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    Lower quality college football programs seats thousands a week in attendance. Perhaps the new leagues should keep ticket prices comparative to college prices. Attracting large crowds should increase advertising and possible radio and TV support. Each year there are hundreds football players who don't make it to the NFL. I don't think the problem will be the quality of the football but rather the expectations of the public. Think McMahon needs to find a way to build saying loyalty and excitement to the individual teams just like fans follow certain WWF performers. McMahon may have failed in other Enterprises but he still has a lots of money.
     
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    I think one way a Vince McMahon could get some true traction with a summer league is go with a GB Packers ownership concept.....allow fans to own a percentage of their given team. A vested interest could keep fans coming to games and more importantly the idea of having a financial stake in a professional team could create some real excitement.
     

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