With 20-20 hindsight, would you have taken Sean Taylor or D-Rob

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  1. nunusguy

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    There's been a lot of hype about the Cowboy's big safety from Oklahoma,
    Roy Williams. Then when another supersized safety, Sean Taylor from
    Miami, came into the draft last spring, the hype continued about big safetys
    and how Taylor might be even better than Williams and then Taylor went faster in the draft than any safety ever had - 5th overall ! And a lot of Texans' fans had wanted the team to move up in the draft to get Taylor. OK, a year later and knowing what we know, if both D-Rob and Taylor had been on the board when we picked @ 10, what's your choice ?
     
  2. texans

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    d-rob is the clear chooice for me. He has been one of the best if not the best corners this year. While taylor has been good but not great and can shut down half of the feild like D-rod did a times this year
     
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    D-rob, definitely. Taylor has not lived up to the hype and already has had run ins with his coach and quite a few off feild incidents. D-rob seems very hungry and determined and had a exceptional year when you look at his stats and from the standpoint that this was the hardest year to play db in recent memory due to the enforcement of the chuck rule. Plus I was very pleased by the play of Glenn Earl.
     
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    D-rob. Corner is a more important postion than Saftey.
     
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    Eric Turner went 2nd overall in 1991 and Bennie Blades went third overall in 1988.

    I remember watching the draft and being kinda dissapointed when the Texans drafted Dunta. Shows you what I know. Here's to CC and the scouting department. :party:
     
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    Great point about the enforcement of the chuck rule, Carr Bomb. That Dunta had to come in and produce as a rookie in those circumstances is rare & exceptional.

    Before the draft, I had never seen Dunta play (other than highlight clips). Then in the 1st fan attended practice, I saw him lay out Matt Murphy, the 260 lb.TE. I said to myself, "Now I get it". Forget about Dunta's size, his 40 yard dash, blah-blah...the guy is just a football player. And look how much he improved over the course of the year, Dunta's extremely coachable. In hindsight, I can't be more excited about the selection of Dunta and his future with the Texans.
     
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    I stand corrected. Thanks Wags.
     
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    I would easily, easily take Dunta now... but in April 2004, if both Taylor and Dunta were on the board at #10, I would have taken Taylor because I had seen him play then and I had seen next to nothing on Dunta. I think the grand majority of the board would have done the same... :whew
     
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    I was on the Sean Taylor bandwagon, but no regrets now.
     
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    D-Rob for sure.
     
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    you can't say sean taylor didn't play up to the hype...he only played the second half of the season...he ended with 76 tackles 1 sack 4 ints 9 passes defensed and 2 forced fumbles

    d-rob ended with 87 tackles 3 sacks 6ints 13 passses defensed and 3 forced fumbles

    d-rob was the better choice for our team right now but i wouldn't turn down sean taylor ever...he's a great young player
     
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    UHH this ones hard, I know ST is great but DR has played better, I still think in the long run ST would be the better choice, but because Duntas grown on me I would have to go with him.
     
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    after watching the the season and seeing both play, I'd have to say D-Rob was the best choice. He performed slightly better than Taylor but the big thing is the off the field actions. As far as I know D-Rob had no off the field problems but Taylor was arrested for DWI and refused to have his blood tested whiched land him in jail and was asked by Gibbs to sit out a week so he wouldn't destract the team.
     
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    I'll admit, when I was sitting at 10, heres all the players I wanted ahead of Robinson

    Jonathon Vilma
    Tommie Harris
    Will Smith
    Vince Wilfork
    Chris Gamble
    D.J. Williams
    Kenechi Udeze
    Marcus Tubbs

    That's how little I thought of him at the time. All of those guys are capable of being all pro one day, but so is Robinson. His rise up the draft board is probably one of the weirdest ones I've ever seen (shot up from a 3rd rounder to top 15 pick in a month and a half)
     
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    Very true, I still remember Taylor dominating games while at Miami. I said a few months before the draft that he should be a Texan. I think DRob did great this season and he is a for sure furture pro bowler.
     
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    its hard to say because at the time we needed both of them. i wouldn't mind having sean becasue he is a future probowler as well but i think dunta was the better pick for this team. with sean we would only upgrade at one position but with dunta we were able to do so at two spots. i was happy with the pick because of what i saw from dunta the few games i saw. both will be stars of years to come.
     
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    at the time i woulda chosen ST, but knowing what i know now i would of chosen D-Rob, he's a play maker and has all the tools to be a "shut down: corner, well as close as they get !
     
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    If we would have traded up to get Sean Taylor.. we would have had to trade our draft.. Basicly.. getting Sean Taylor would mean us giving up Babin, and Earl.

    So no.. i dont think a free saftey, the most easily filled position on the defense, is worth giving up 3 starters... no matter how good he may be in the future. Ill take my starters and the best rookie CB since Champ Bailey.
     
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    When looking in hindsight, you must consider other teams as well. If everyone knew what we know now, then Drob doesn't get to us at #10. Instead we would probably have Reggie Williams. I believe Taylor and Drob would have been picked before us. That being said. The Texans got quite a steal at #10 IMO.
     
  20. JDizzle

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    Apparently the asking price was too high for that spot, even for us. Considering what we spent to get Babin, I could only imagine what the asking price was.

    Im more than satisfied with D-Rob. I mean come on, he's not even 6' or 200lbs and he's a better tackler than Jamie Sharper. His technique will only improve in the years to come, which is already decent for a rook.

    DeAngelo WHO?
     

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