Winston talks scheme, Gibbs, red-zone woes

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  1. m5kwatts

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...ner-Interview-Eric-Winston-Par?urn=nfl,249191

    Eric was his usual self candid, open, honest.

    On the scheme:
    Gibbs:
    Red-zone troubles (very interesting):
     
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    The backs have never really been the big problem in the redzone......the guys if front of them have been (which Winston doesn't even talk about, which is understandable)

    When you get into the red zone or obvious short yardage running situations things become more bunched up and when it's time for the guys in the middle to put on their big boy pants and get the big boy yards.....they (Myers) can't get any push up the middle. Our line repeatedly gets blown off the ball in the red zone and our backs have to try to dodge tacklers in the back field.

    Foster was the only back that I saw who was able to overcome this last season....in the Pats game, he basically pushed the pile into the endzone.
     
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    Yep
     
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    Good read, thanks.
     
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    I like the Dennison hire. But I don't remember Denver being very effective in the Red Zone last year either.

    The play calling could have as much effect on the Red Zone conversion as the RBs. Run-Pass Imbalance In the Red Zone--1st Downs

    I think we also we find out this year if the typical light weight fleet-of-foot Gibbs type OL (ala Myers) in the Red Zone has played out its swan song in the NFL, especially with so many Ds going to the Mammoth 3-4 types.
     
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    Dennison was not the OC in Denver last season, he was the OL coach, as such he did not call the plays. He was replaced when Josh McDaniel's was hired to be the new HC. Denver changed it's entire offense and defense from the Shanahan teams.

    Also if people remember correctly Dennison was Kubiak's first choice to be his OC when he came here, but Mike Shanahan refused to allow him to interview.
     
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    Hmmm, someone around here has been saying this for years.
     
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    I separated my first and second paragraph for a reason. The comment about play calling was not meant to be directed specifically to Dennison. It was referring to how it has affected our past Red Zone ineffectiveness, besides our RB problems.
     
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    I was responding to this line not the later parts. Dennison did not have a say in the Denver play calling and thus Denver's Red Zone play is not relevant, IMO.

    Your other points where/are strong points.
     
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    It wasn't even the same blocking scheme either. McDaniels wanted to implement a power scheme but because of the pure zone scheme being in place there before (and Dennison coming from the Denver ZBS obviously) they went with a hybrid man/zone mess that amounted to a horrible running game. With Dennison as the OC here he's on the same page with his head coach and obviously has the power of calling plays and comfort of the familier ZBS already being in place.
     
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    Gotcha.
     
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    I'm hoping to have a companion post to this up on the blog tomorrow. :fans:
     
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    Where's part II?
     
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    Part II even better!
     
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    I should give credit to Steph for this link she posted it on twitter
     
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    I was unaware of Steph's Twitter post of the link...........I obtained the link from another search source. Evidently, Steph posted the link on her account 1 1/2 hours PRIOR to my post.............sharp little cookie!
     
  20. El Tejano

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    He also did very well against the Dolphins in terms of what you are talking about.
     

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