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Will Bradley Roby have a comeback season?

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by 76Texan, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Pro BS'er

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    Its interesting to note that Houston offered Mathieu 9.5M annual per year coming off a decent "prove it year" but did not step up to the grown up table to counter the KC offer and that had more people up in arms than the KJAX non offer and yet Mathieu statistically had a very average year. It was all based on the "leadership" and toughness argument, because of all the talk about how KJAX 'gets burned' and was a flag machine I can think of many plays where Tyrann **** the bed in the backfield and gave up huge gains and TDs. More people were upset at not signing Tyrann "One and Done" Mathieu than KJAX who was drafted and groomed by the team.

    KC was desperate and paid for a guy who at least had tape that showed he was trending up, HOU got desperate and signed a CB for 10Ms who looks like he doesnt even belong in the league, but yeah he's going to have a bounce back year because he's fast, and he was good 3 years ago.
     
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    thunderkyss It's good to be me... again. Staff Member

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    You said RAC has nothing to do with the money. My point is RAC weighs in on personnel just as much as Fangio. So if you're going to say it was a good idea to sign Kjax & release Roby because Fangio did, I say it was a good decision to release Kjax & sign Roby because RAC did.

    In truth I don't like the reasoning. But it's your reasoning.

    I'll pay McCourty & any other starting safety all day any day. I don't believe Kjax should be a starting safety, even though he probably will in Denver.

    I'll pay starting CBs all day, any day. I don't think Kjax should be a starting CB anymore, unless you count the nickle as a starter, but I don't think we should pay nickle corners $10M+/yr.

    Denver got rid of their coaching staff recently, after a short run. I'm hedging that was part of Roby's problem. On a one year deal it sounds like the Texans feel the same way.

    We're looking for better CBs to play outside. Better than Kjax. I dont know if Roby is that guy. But I am sure Kjax isn't.
     
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    I've seen that & dont really know what to say. I'm wrong. But I dont think so.

    Honestly, next to 76Texans I was the main guy banging the KJax is not a bust drum for the first two years he was here. Third year I was probably ont hat bandwagon.

    But I was on board when they didn't offer him as much as the Jets the first time he entered FA. When he took less money to stay, I thought we offered too much (it probably wasn't the Jets).

    It's time to move on. Imo
     
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    I'm glad Mathieu didn't take the Texans money. I'm glad the Texans didn't outbid KC. HB was aiight... but just aiight.
     
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    You make it sound like the Texans expect Roby to be an All-Pro. They don't. They don't know how he's going to perform. Otherwise they'd have paid him $10M/yr, for 6 years which they didn't.

    You overpay in FA, period. We're overpaying him for one year, not four. I liked the deal. I like the deal. I hope he proves to be worth $20M/yr.
     
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    I think a counteroffer would've been wanted. I think (opinion only) that HB was a great locker room addition and that they liked what they saw on the field.
     
  7. Uncle Rico

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    If they were intent on letting KJAX walk then a much better use of the money would have been to try and attain Ronald Darby when available instead of panicking and overpaying Roby in a "gotta get someone quick" mentality. They did a poor job assessing the CB market and then we are supposed to believe that this guy at the price tag is supposed to be an upgrade or even a stopgap? Im good at moving on, I just dont garner alot of respect for the club when they cut fan favorites in favor or noticeably worse players at about the same price point.

    I hope Roby looks better than he did last year, and considering the way RAC protects his CBs I wouldnt be surprised for him to have a decent year and then go chase more money elsewhere, and we will be back to looking for chemistry and tenure.

    If the front 7 can get after it most of the guys on the backend will look good.
     
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    In terms of AAV Roby was the second highest paid CB in free agency next to .... you guessed it KJAX. At that price point I AM expecting some semblance of equal play compared to KJAX.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/cornerback/
     
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    KJAX > Roby
     
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    & I've been saying since we signed him, Roby replaces Kjohn... he won't be our nickle CB. That will be Colvin & LonnieJ

    All he has to do is dress on game day & he'll be an improvement over Kjohn
     
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    Let’s move on.
    JB already warned that we’re exceeding the limit of taking the thread away from the topic. :ahhaha:
     
  12. 76Texan

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    We can only hope that the front 4 (or 3) can get after it.

    The list of good QBs they will face is pretty long.
    Or they could/should see some OCs that go with a quick/short game plan to try to neutralize our forte.
    Like what the Raiders did against the Broncos when Carr completed pass after pass.
    That would be painful to watch.
     
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    Probably because the guy couldn't even run down the field without concussing himself by jumping in the air and face diving into the turf.. it was just sad to watch.
     
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    Wait you cant have a "comeback season" when you never has a "good season"
     
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    I like Roby's size, speed and hand size.
    5'11".....4.39 40 timed at the combine....huge 10 1/4" hands.
     
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    Roby should be an Aaron Glenn on steroids and in all likelihood never will be Glenn without.

    He is what he is, above average if you exclude pro bowlers & all pros. Otherwise known as serviceable.

    OB is FAR too into physical attributes. Listen to him talk, "Khalil has all the measurables." Yeah if you ignore injuries, play ... you know measuables that count.

    There are techniques & knowledge to this game, dedication to learn the opposition, wisdom to talk to the refs...

    OB gets none of this. Aaron used to talk to the refs before each game about what they would call. He taught AJ to do the same - he'd get a nod from the ref before every play, "you're good." AJ taught it to Hopkins. He knows he can extend an arm to 40 degrees because he got clearance.

    OB is a living room coach. "If I have the ideal guys these O's are gonna kick ass."

    Well buddy "the system" isn't about the top 3. It's not about Brady, Gronk, Hopkins. It's about the other guys and scheming Thomas open, Miller into an ooen space pitch, Watson into a bootleg so he can throw to a wide open who the fark is that Tyron whatever WR.
     
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    powda You forgot the briefcase!

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    Just stop ty hilton from looking hof and be solid in the playoffs.
     
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    It was reported they wanted to keep Matthieu and offered up to $12M but KC offered more
     
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    powda You forgot the briefcase!

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    Source?
     
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    powda You forgot the briefcase!

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    He wanted more than his worth. Im ok with it.
     
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