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Will Bradley Roby have a comeback season?

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  1. DocBar

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    It's amazing how couldn't pull any of that stuff off when he was in Houston. Looking at the stats, he's a fairly average DC with fairly even good, mediocre and bad seasons. I'd say he's an upper half of the league DC. Yards allowed is a silly stat when it's points for and points against that determine the winner. I place PAs, TOs, TOP and 3rd down % as far more important than yards allowed.
     
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    probably not.............



    Zing!!!!!!
     
  3. 76Texan

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    Read your own writing.
    You said you don't want to pay a safety close to 10M... even if he's fine.
     
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    Agree, I mostly look at point allowed and turnovers created.

    As for the Texans at the beginning, the talents just weren't there on either side of the football.
    They started by picking a few good defensive players, but went pretty much all offense in the draft for the first two years.
    They tried to build both sides of the ball at the same time, and it didn't work.
    Two wrongs couldn't make one right.
     
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    We don't know for sure that RAC didn't want to pay. He has little say with the money.

    Even if he does, the point remains that at least two HCs share the philosophy that the safety position is important and are willing to put the money where the mouth is.

    BB made Devin McCourty the highest paid DBs on his team in 2015 as a safety.
    He played Malcolm Butler and Logan Ryan at CBs.
    Even though Butler had some great years, statswise, BB let them go.

    Vic Fangio came to the Broncos and didn't bring back Roby.
    He brought in KJax instead.
     
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    Read it again. It's not safeties I don't want to pay. It's Kjax (who I do not consider a true safety) & Mathieu (who I do not consider a good safety) I do not want to pay.

    I doubt Fangio has much say with the money.

    It's normal for first time head coaches to make a bunch of mistakes.
     
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    I thought this thread was about Bradley Roby... my bad, I must have reading issues

    but I know I don't
     
  8. 76Texan

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    I sure did read it.

    You said you don't want to pay the inside CB nor the safety good money.
     
  9. 76Texan

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    Have you ever gone back and reread your own posts.?
    :ahhaha:
     
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    If Fangio doesn't have much say with money, what make you think RC does?
    And so, if that's the rationalization, then RC didn't make the decision not to bring back KJax.

    Fangio can makes a ton of mistakes, but there's no doubt about his philosphy: "He doesn't mind paying a safety good money".

    And what about BB and all the decisions he made regarding the secondary as I had stated in one of the above posts?
     




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    I'm usually not sober enough ... i don't post for me to read
     
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    BB also benched Butler in the SB for not being a good team mate. The Texans didn't even make an offer to KJAX, that's how badly they wanted him gone. If RAC had wanted him, surely the Texans would've at least made an offer.
     
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    Doc, stick to the script.

    Any good defensive personnel decisions are attributed to RAC because OB doesn't know what the F*** he is doing but at least he listens to RAC.

    Any bad defensive personnel decisions are attributed to OB because he doesn't know what the F*** he is doing and refuses to listen to RAC.
     
  14. 76Texan

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    Last year, the Texans were the 4th highest spender on the defensive side of the ball.
    I think any GM would have to consider each of the moves carefully.
    The Texans still have the Clowney's situation to resolve.
    Mercilus will be in his contract year.
    So is JJo. (Currently the Texans have him basically "on the cheap", but will he have enough left in the tank next year?)

    KJax would need a long-term contract north of $10M; they probably had figured on $11M or so.
    They also had to write off KJo.

    So they tried to offer Mathieu $9M first. Maybe they were thinking that if Mathieu accept that offer, they would have enough in the budget to make a decision on the next piece.
    But Mathieu took the Chiefs deal, I think on the same day the Broncos signed KJax.

    So the Texans quickly went to Roby (as a short-term fix) and Gipson.

    Who knows.
    All this might have played a part in Gaine's firing.
     
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    As to Roby, Mike Klis reported that he spoke to him (or his agent) and learned that the Steelers had offered Roby a three-year deal.
    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...al-with-steelers-to-sign-with-texans-nfl-news

    But Roby took a one-year proved it deal with the Texans for 10M.

    I think we can safely assume that the Steelers didn't offer good money.
    And the Texans didn't think of him highly enough to offer a long-term contract.
     
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    What do you mean the talent wasn't there. Dude we won most of our games on talent alone because OC Bill O'Brien is not good at his job. People really needs to stop using that false narrative to drive home their point.
     
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    He is talking about the beginning of the franchise when Fangio was DC with Capers as HC. He's right apart from Gary Walker and Aaron Glenn maybe? Fangio had nothing to work with.
     
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    BB also benched Butler in the SB for not being a good team mate. The Texans didn't even make an offer to KJAX, that's how badly they wanted him gone. If RAC had wanted him, surely the Texans would've at least made an offer.
    I've heard it said that losing Mathieu was a factor in Gaine getting fired, as well as not landing Solder or Norwell, whom OB is said to have coveted. In KJax situation, there was no attempt, at all, to retain him.
    I think JJO has signed his last contract with the Texans unless he wants to coach. He's pretty long in the tooth.
    I also think they have the Clowney situation decided: franchise tag two years then let him walk.
     
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    I don’t know about Mathieu.
    3 year for $42M.

    You think OB and RAC wanted Gaine to counter offer that?

    Or they wanted Gaine to offer more than $9M to start with?
     

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