Why is Phillips getting a pass?

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  1. mussop

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    I see alot of people pointing fingers at Kubiak and the offense and rightfully so. But what about Philllips? Seems like everyone is making excuses for him. "Oh he has so little work with because of injuries" and "he has got this team to over achieve". BFD! All defenses go through that at some opint in a season. Thats where a great coordinator steps up shows why he is great.

    Maybe it's just me but it sure seems like he's gone extra vanilla on his blitz packages. I'm not a big X's and O's guy but I can't remember the last time saw Phillips send one of our OLB's on loop around stunt to the inside. What happened to moving the weak side LB all over the place to put him in position to take advantage of miss matches and take advantage of his rush abilities. All he's done the second half of this year IMO is use the OLB's as edge setters or speed rushers around the outside on obvious passing plays. Where is the creativity we were promised?

    I'm sorry but this defense has to get pressure on the QB to be successful. Phillips need to dial it up a notch or we are going to end up wasting this season no matter what the offense does.
     
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  2. steelbtexan

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    Because, Cody almost died because of a punctured lung. (Nitro?)

    Cushing and Reed are lost probably for the season.

    Joseph is playing hurt. Any more questions?

    The Texans are 11-2, Wade's undermanned defense stopped Brady 4 times in a row. If you're going to beat a team like the Pats you've got to be able to win time of possesion/score points. This is why I hope the next draft is heavy on offense.

    I want to see what Gary can do with a couple of elite offensive weapons. Maybe he will eschew his conservative ways, LOL
     
  3. DexmanC

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    Kubiak has hosted a 4-game losing streak every season he has been here.
    It is he who must prove his credentials as HEAD COACH are moving
    to the next level. Wade is a defensive coordinator, and is doing a hell
    of a job. It is Gary's offense that can't get a 1st down to close out a
    game, or continue a drive in the parts of the game it matters.

    Wade's defense doesn't seem to play scared against high competition. Gary's
    offense was a comedy of errors twice this season against championship
    caliber teams. I don't hate Kubiak. I just want to see HIM improve as
    a HEAD COACH.

    Handing Ben Tate his first carry well into the third quarter against the
    Patriots tells me Gary puts his ego over the needs contributing to this
    team winning. Wade's defense has masked Gary's crap all season long,
    and it's time the offense played to the level the defense has since
    Wade got here.
     
  4. mussop

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    Again with the excuses. How about the entire right side of the offensive line being new and being rotated every game. Why the excuses for Wade but not for Kubiak? P.S. I'm not defending Kubiak! Just pointing out Phillips needs to do a better job to. Go look at how many yards we have given up in the last four games.

    If you want to beat top QB's like Brady you need to get to them,,,,, alot. This is why I want to draft heavy on defense. I want a front seven rotation that can get to the QB like the Giants have.

    Even if you score alot against these type QB's they still find ways to win if they get the ball at the end. There is no better more proven way to win than to get defensive pressure on the QB.

    Now to get back on track. We better get to Luck or he's going to pick us apart. and if we don't get to him early Phillips better make some adjustments and start taking advantage of our Defensive weapons.
     
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    Wade is doing a hell of a job? How many yards have we given up the last four weeks?

    Wade's defense doesn't seem to play scared against high competition? What did Green Bay and NE do to us?

    Throughout Wades career as a D coordinator his defenses have gone backwards in his second year with each team. I'm starting to think that is what is happening here.
     
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    And if Wade wasn't here and we had another defensive cord. of the type Kubiak had been hiring pre-Wade, we wouldn't be 11-2 right now.

    You have to play good on both sides of the ball. If you are in a passing game shoot out and the other teams is scoring like GB and NE did, trying to run the damn ball probably isn't the answer. Hell, I miss the Schaub years when he was throwing for 4000 yards. We really need to draft on the offensive side of the ball next year.
     
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    It is what it is. Although I agree with you, you do realize that it will take the win starved fan base another 4-5 yrs to come to the conclusion that BoB's team can never win a SB under Gary. Our Agggie fans wont admit this and I peesonally will have given uncle BoB 100,000 grand. But, the Texans are 11-2 and who's contin a few hundred thousand $$$$ among friends,

    BTW, uncle BoB you know how to build a championship team better than I do. So, I will be at reliant screaming my lungs out with everybody else, and I KNOW THAT's WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU.

    The Texans are the moderm day version of the Moon lrad Oilers. Except Schaub doesn't have the natural ability Moon had. Any way as a fan of professional football im Houston, we are screwed.
     
  8. mussop

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    I totally agree with this. Especially right at their best defensive player who is a known run stopper. However Schaub was throwing for those 4000 yards with basically the same weapons he has now. Just because Kubiak has more weapons doesn't mean he'll use them properly.

    Right now if you take Watt out of this defense what do you have? To me Wade is relying on Watt to much in his game plan. He's moving him around and pretty much ignoring the abilities of all the other guys.
     


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    Agreed about Watt, especially with Cushing gone.

    How do you fix this? I go all offense in the draft, this will help the defense by keeping it off the field. Unless Gary has another brain fart and insists on running the ball up the niddle against a NT like Wilfork.
     
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    Every year?

    I think Wade has been under scrutiny since Detroit. However, he has got a pass from most everyone for the Boston Masacre, because he did what a DC is supposed to do. Adjust in real time & flip that switch. The defense pretty much dominated the Patriots for the second & third Qtrs, in so much as you can dominate that offense.

    The offensive side of the ball never seemed to. They went from bad to worse.
     
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    He's got a QB rating of 74..... he's not picking anyone apart.
     
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    They haven't had a decent win since October. Injuries have weakened the team on both sides of the ball. But I agree with the OP. If you want to point fingers at Kubiak, then stop making excuses for Phillips.
     
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    Look at what he's been able to do in the last minutes of games. If this is a close game and we are not getting pressure on him that 74n wont mean jack.
     
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    Yep.

    I got crushed for saying "put some blame on Wade, too"(or, "don't just give Wade ALL the credit"). But, folks have their favorites and folks have the players, coaches, etc that they can't stand.

    As for the October thing...What do you mean "decent"? Win margin? Overall play?
     
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    Different issue altogether. The only thing to worry about Luck is if it's a one score game near the end.

    Other than that, the only people who need to worry about Luck, are the Colts fans. He'll throw interceptions, he'll fumble balls.... but he won't be "picking anyone apart." Thanks to that 74 qb rating.
     
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    Because Wade isnt the Head Coach...
     
  18. mussop

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    He's led them to a 9 and 4 and just two games behind us. remember the last time we played jacksonville? Who's their QB and what's his rating? :fingergun:








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    irrelevant
     
  20. 76Texan

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    Well, I certainly didn't give Wade a pass.

    I "criticized" him for taking the foot off the pedal in the Bronco's game.

    I gave him pass in the Jags game because our secondary made too many mistakes, but I called him out for not fixing it when the secondary failed against the Pats. Or when guys were late going out to cover Hernandez.
    I even said pre-game that I wasn't gonna be too happy if he has Bradie James on Hernandez or any of our LBS on Woodhead.

    All those things hurt us and I criticized Wade for not having a good game plan and for not preparing the guys well enough.
     

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