Who should the Texans target for the OC job?

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  1. Shishkabob

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    yup which is why if it was an internal hire I rather it be Ryan, Ryan at least has coached under other people in this league. So he carries some outside perspective. Kelly is just like Godsey, followed OB here worked with him at PSU and will probably have the same fate is promoted.

    But yea from the rumblings they aren't going to promote Ryan, so he will probably leave and go coach the Jags as they are rumored to be interested in him. Which is awesome because he knows Watson as well as anyone so he can give them the blue print on him
     
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    sometimes I hate being a Houston pro football fan
     
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    I can draw up plays to run Miller up the middle. Do the Texans have any other qualifications for this position?
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    If you can scheme a WR open, you're hired
     
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    I am vehemently against hiring any OC, in house or otherwise. Why? Because when it all goes tits up in 2019, and it most definitely will, an OC will just be another in the litany of excuses for this failure of a HC.
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    So, in other words you are hoping the Texans fail miserably? GTFO!
     
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    Shane Waldron
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    Hilarious thread, but I'll go with Jeff Scott
     
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    He calls that screen two or three times a game. The Colts shut it down last time. At this point it's a setup for a pick six.

    Belichick won 11 games with Matt Cassel at QB. I'd like to see what a Belichick-coached Texans team would do to the Colts right now.

    A coach must strategize with the resources he has, not the resources he wants. O'Brien has repeatedly demonstrated an inability to accurately assess his players' strengths, weaknesses, and development, then strategize accordingly. In my opinion, it's due to a gap in the transfer of knowledge between players and coaches. My suspicion was supported by an episode of Hard Knocks when a dysfunctional, Mallet-led Texans team suffered an embarrassing pre-season loss. The failures were not only on Mallet; the defense was inept. At practice the following Monday, O'Brien told Romeo to let the players tutor each other on each play call, then we see O'Brien yelling to coaches, "I want to see what they know!" It was the right idea because the defense improved, but why didn't O'Brien already know what they knew? Why the vast disconnect? We saw that disconnect again that season during the infamous route by Miami where the players again looked lost (they used the bye week to recalibrate and bounce back). But now in 2018 we're again seeing evidence of a disconnect where players fail to execute the system (as RAC has stated). Why does this disconnect between players and coaches keep emerging?

    Now I do blame many of the problems on the limitations on the players, but the transfer of knowledge is not a one-way street. The coach must also be assessing the player, then gameplan accordingly.
     
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    Oh, so O’Brien will get fired next year and then McCarthy will bs hired as HC. I see what you did there.
     


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    And I bet that bag of Lay's was half empty, just like OB's playbook!
     
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    Rumor is Tony Elliot may be going to Georgia Tech as HC but that doesn't matter.

    BOB will have a figure head at OC or keep it himself. Give him credit, he figures if he goes down he goes down doing it HIS WAY in a spectacular ball of fire.
     
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    Hey, if that bag had stubble and a chiseled chin you should've grabbed it as its all the rage right now.......
     
  14. Honoring Earl 34

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    What team had the greatest set of coordinators in NFL history ? Not sure why this popped in my head but it's fun .
     
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    1990 NY Giants?

    Tom Coughlin
    Bill Belichick
    Al Groh
    Romeo Crennel
    Ron Erhardt
    Charlie Weis
     
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    Honoring Earl 34 Something Witty !

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    https://www.amazon.com/Lombardi-Landry-Footballs-Greatest-Launched/dp/1616084413



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    94 Green Bay packers. Holmgren had:

    Gruden
    Reid
    Marriucci

    All on the same staff

    I’m sure there’s an 80’s 49er staff under Walsh that can rival this though.
     
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    infantrycak Admin & Mod Staff Member

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    You win.

    Need to point out Landry actually became DC in 1954 while still a player. In fact he was a probowl & all pro safety in 1954. Did everything. 1st gig was punter and he ended up starting both safety (32 INTs) and punter. Became an unofficial coach from day one. Rare coach who created schemes on both sides of the ball. Invented the 4-3 defense and flex variant (specifically to counter Lombardi). Popularized motion, shotgun & shift on offense in the NFL.
     
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    He was in the military wasn't he ?
     

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