who improves the Texans the most now?

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  1. beerlover

    beerlover Site Contributor

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    with the blockbuster trade of pb soon to be official who would improve the Texans the most both in the short & long term? the Texans defensive corners are set, good talent & depth at safety, solid front line when healthly & LB's with some upside and deep. on offense QB and WR have star power. TE is a question mark till BJ plays, line is a mix of young, middle (Wade) and old while the RB position is a combination of late round to underperforming (Hollings) draft picks.

    my choice would be Ware @ OLB if not available-

    2nd choice Cedric Benson, franchise back

    3rd choice trade down & add depth/future picks
     
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    I like that prioritization...we'll just have to see how it plays out.
     
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    i dont think there will be a way that we stay at 13 now. i believe their will only be 1% chance that we stay there. ```johnson or merriman are the only 2 i think we would sta there for. We do need to add some picks bc we have lost some. To add more depth
     
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    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    The Texans have lost one pick/draftee with this deal. Two picks that normally would acquire two players to get one player. One less guy. That does not necessitate trading down. May happen, but sheesh some of you draftniks are more rapped up in how many times you get to look at your draft board than what makes sense for the development of the team.
     
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    Right now i am in london and i havent heard the specifics. I heard we gave up our 47 and 73 to get him. Maybe its just 1 i dont know. I think we can get more value for trading down and gettting the 2nd rounder back or even adding an xtra 3rd.
     
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    I dont understand all this talk about a running back. We have DD, he is one of the most productive backs in the league. I can understand adding depth there especially in the later rounds. I just hope Cass has called the eagles and said our 1st and 4th for your first and and two 2nd rounders. That is one hell of a deal and we come out smellin like roses afterward. We can add tremendous depth and grab likely two superstars.
     
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    With the Redskins now looking at QB in the draft.. it increases the chances of either Merriman or Williamson falling to us.

    my priorities go something like this

    Benson
    Merriman or Pollack (I cant say which I like more.. not sure.. both are good)
    Williamson
     
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    Grid explain the Benson pick to me, and why Merrimen or Pollack. Merrimen is much more athletic and has played in a system similar to ours before so why do you put them so close together.
     


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    Redskins are looking at Jason Campbell at Pick #25, not #9. I suppose they might take an Aaron Rodgers or some such at #9, but probably not.
     
  10. Grid

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    Benson because he is one of the best LBs to come out in a long time. he is of EQUAL value to Brown and Williams IMO. The only question is his motivation.. so if our FO beleives his motivation wont be an issue.. then I could see him being at the top of our list if he falls. He would provide some power running and durability to our running game. We want to be a running team, so that would be a good grab for us.

    Merriman and Pollack are so close because .. well.. they are equally talented. Pollack gets a bad rap because he isnt some incredible athletic specimen.. but you cannot deny his abilities. He is the QUICKEST LB in this draft, and quickness can get you to the QB better than speed, IMO. He seems to have exactly the kind of attitude we like, and he plays with ALOT of fire. he has that non-stop motor that Capers is so partial too, and the perfect size to play OLB in the 3-4. Actually the only reason that I rate Merriman on the same level as Pollack is because Merriman is a better athletic specimen.. I think Pollack is the more talented football player.
     
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    If Alex Smith or Aaron Rogers falls to them at #9.. and they consider QB to be a need for them.. I think they would be fools to not SERIOUSLY consider it.
     
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    royce I'll pay you if you bring some of that good stuff from over the pond. english barleywines are among my favorite styles of beer, any of these would be worth the haul-

    • HARVEYS, ELIZABETHAN BARLEY WINE
    • BURTON BRIDGE ALE, TICKLE BRAIN ALE
    • COTTAGE, NORMANS CONQUEST
    • GALES, PRIZE OLD ALE
    • HOGS BACK, A OVER T
    • J.W. LEES, 2002 HARVEST ALE
    • PITFIELD HISTORIC, 1896 XXXX STOCK ALE
     
  13. cadahnic

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    Ok Grid I see were you are going with it, but we have a 1000+ yrd running attack right now. Merrimen is a stud and so is Pollack, but Merriemen is definately better. at least 10 picks and a couple of million better. I have no problem with either of them though, I am glad that you dont want Williamson though since he is best used as trade bait for us. Think about it Carolina and the Eagles both wanting him and knowing that we are willing to trade for more picks. I think the Eagles offers us alot of options. We can take their seconds and first and use it to get back higher into the first to get Pollack, Ware, or Davis or we can add some studs and depth.
     
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    I would be fine with trading down with the Saints, Bengals, Vikings, or Rams and getting another 2nd or 3rd. Grab Pollack and go from there.

    I, actually, would not mind the Williamson pick at all :) Not anymore anyway. i was totally against it.. but trading for Buchanan has changed everything and we could afford to grab great WR to play opposite of Johnson now.
     
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    Wow its funny bc i wanted Williamson and i still do dont get me wrong. I would be happy with him and i am sure Carr would be too having another target. It does make sense but i am sure we will listen to offers before we run the card up to the poduim.
     
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    can i even do that. Wont customs take it from me or charge me a tax on it or something
     
  17. infantrycak

    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    You are allowed to bring back a certain amount--something like 4 bottles of wine or 2 gallons of beer duty free. Ask at any duty free shop or even a concierge.
     
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    Tell me what 1 you want me to look into and i will see what i can do remember i am on a short budget.
     
  19. beerlover

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    Bass used to make one of the finest BarleyWines, ask a local if you get the chance, we both may need one come draft day :party:
     
  20. Grid

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    should change your name to winelover
     

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