Which Texan Earns Their Paycheck?

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  1. TEXANS84

    TEXANS84 Moderator Staff Member

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    Thought this would be an interesting topic to see what you guys thought of the Texans players and if they are truly "earning" their paycheck this season.

    For starters, I'll start with Dunta Robinson:

    Earns his paycheck extremely well for a rookie (learning curve). He signed a 6 year deal worth 10.7 million, and unexpectedly puts up numbers with 3 games to go of:
    2 Sacks
    56 Tackles
    47 Solo Tackes
    18 Passes Defensed
    1 Forced Fumble
    And 5 Interceptions

    Not bad for a rookie.

    So who earns (or doesn't earn) their paycheck in your book?
     
  2. wags

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    This is easy. Andre Johnson. :whoohoo:
     
  3. El Tejano

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    Jamie Sharper. Always there and always accounted for.

    Jason Simmons. Lays his body out for the team to give a crushing hit to take Cris Brown out of the game and messed up his season.

    But most of all, JJ Moses. If there is anyone you can see out on the field giving 110%, JJ always does. He runs hard everytime he has the ball in his hands.
     
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    The ones that don't:

    McKinsey
    GFunk
    Bradford
    B. Miller - probably not all his fault - scheme inhibits
    D. Carr - same as Miller

    Basically IMO, if they are a 5 year pro they should be playing solid ball. That doesn't mean all-pro, but just solid ball. Those under 5 years, but not rookies, that are payed big dollars should be solid also. 2 years or less are just babes and need time so I give them a bit of a pass.
     
  5. cuppacoffee

    cuppacoffee Resident Grouch

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    I'm just a casual observer and just follow the ball during games so my guess is just that, a guess:

    Is Todd Wade earning his FA money?
    Is Robaire Smith earning his?

    Its a question, not an opinion.

    cac :coffee:
     
  6. infantrycak

    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    Robaire IMO has been a mixed bag. Good against the run as expected, a little less than expected on pass rush, but he does have 9 balls batted down so far witch is pretty heads up play.
     
  7. Porky

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    None. But it's not their fault. No team sports figure that I know of is worth the money he gets. Nobody is worth that kind of dough unless they invent something useful to mankind, or start a company that employee's thousands. Policeman and fireman provide a far more valuable service, yet make diddly squat in comparison. So my answer is NONE. :hmmm:
     
  8. cuppacoffee

    cuppacoffee Resident Grouch

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    I would add school teachers to that list. Its a disgrace what we pay our teachers considering what we expect of them.
    No I am not a teacher and have no teachers in my family. :D

    cac :coffee:
     


  9. texan2061

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    I'll have to agree with you, Texans84. Dunta Robinson

     
  10. Jwwillis

    Jwwillis All Pro

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    If the Texans post a profit they have all earned there paychecks. I wonder how many NFL teams report a profit at the end of the year? My guess is not many.
     
  11. TexansTrueFan

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    Earned

    D.Robinson
    A. Johnnson
    J. Gaffney
    J. Sharper
    ? R. Smith ?
    J. Babin
    * A. Peek *
    A. Glenn
    G. Earl
    ***D. Davis*** (O-line makes him look bad)


    Not Earned

    S. Payne
    G. Walker
    M. Coleman
    S. Mckinney
    T. Wade
    C. Bradford
    M. Norris

    REST UNDECIDED
     
  12. JustBonee

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    They make a lot of money..true. But their football careers are short on average.
    And many have health issues and injuries to deal with the rest of their lives.
     
  13. jr0ck

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    all the other names i can why some people would think those certain players weren't "earning" their paychecks. however, i am curious as too why you feel mr. norris isn't deserving?
     
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    All of them. Most will not be in the league ten years from now whereas most other professions will have the opportunity to work 30-40 years if they so choose. Any given practice or game their career could end with one hit, and God forbid the long term health consequences, all for my entertainment pleasure. Usually, those who don't live up to their contracts are cut. The only thing I do question is being locked in to paying a player millions if he never sets foot on the field.
     
  15. Vinny

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    :thumbup Well said.
     
  16. TEXANS84

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    I would list Gary Walker as the most un-earned paycheck on the squad.
    He had a heck of a year in 02', but ever since signing his contract...his production has tabled off and has gone downhill.

    Players like Robaire Smith and Marcus Coleman I don't feel like we could accuratley grade them...due to position change.
     
  17. Porky

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    I don't disagree, but a fireman also puts his life on the line every time he steps into a burning building. If the QB makes a few million a year, what's a fireman worth. And, before you answer, yes I understand the reasons why from a purely free enterprise system why it is. But, the inequity between those who entertain us, whether via sports, movies, or song, and teachers, firemen, policemen, and service men and women has always bugged me. In the truest sense, someone is worth whatever they can bring in, and I understand that. My stance is more philospohical in nature.
     
  18. cuppacoffee

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    Bold mine

    Good post. I never thought of it that way.

    cac :coffee:
     
  19. HJam72

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    Most of them won't be playing ten years from now. True. So what? They can't do any other kind of job? They all got free educations. I know they could get paid WAY less and still never have to work again, but I'm not buying the short career argument. The long term health consequences are part of why they make so much. I'll take a bad knee for about 50 million.

    By the way, I don't think it's right that athletes get scholarships in the first place. They should just get paid. They bring fans. Pay them. But don't give them a scholarship that belongs to an academic.
     
  20. WWJD

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    All of them!

    Most of these guys can't walk straight when they get into their middle years and have joint problems for the rest of their lives. Roger Staubach has the creepiest looking hand I've ever seen. One of his fingers was so badly broken it's freaky looking now.

    I've always admired any athlete that can get to the top of his profession. That's what I would consider the NFL.
     

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