Discussion in 'College Football & the NFL Draft' started by the wonger need food, Jun 20, 2006.
DC or VY
Carr had better statistics, Vince obviously had the better team and won a NC, so it depends on how you asking the question.
I would say David Carr because he didnt have much help on that Bulldogs squad so....DC
accomplishing nothing with a bad team doesnt make a good career
Really? Well maybe not more than College Hall of Fame and Pro Football Hall of Fame--almost accomplishing nothing (no bowl games) and narrowly averting no SB's with the addition of a running game. Guess who?
These kinds of debates go nowhere because nobody agrees on the standards and usually adopts a standard to achieve a desired result.
That's right and I am now convinced that Carr is the next Elway.
Thanks for that, swtbound.
Carr was the better qb.
I agree. I think Bosworth is in the College Hall of Fame also
also after looking at it... they have like 10,000 people in the College HOF. So pretty much if you got your named called more then once by the announcer on the loudspeakers, you get a ticket to the College Hall of Fame.
I had never heard of Carr until the summer before his senior year . Vince I knew about when he was in High School . Carr had a monster senior year while Vince had two good years and two great bowl games . I figure Vince got his team to the Rose Bowl twice and dominated both games so I give the who's the best QB award to Vince .
John Elway was the best QB prospect that I have seen , so Carr and VY don't play in his league . Having said that , Elway struggled his first couple of years with Denver so I don't care how good Vince looks in camp ... he can't carry a team for 16 games as a rookie .
Champoinships speak volumes !
Its gotta be Vince .
There was a debate with this in the other thread and now it has it's own thread
But Carr definately had a better college career. A championship says the team whole team got it done, not just one particular player.
Carr, without a doubt. He did so much his Senior year that I was not surprised he took 1st rank in his draft.
VY he had one of the best preformances in the national championship ... i like david carr as a player but vince yound did so much 30-2 record best by a QB at UT dont think carr had that good of a record
Vince Young (and a national championship)
2006 - Manning Award winner
2006 - Rose Bowl MVP (at end of 2005 season)
2005 - Finalist for Heisman Trophy
2005 - The Cingular Player of the Year Award
2005 - All-American Offensive Player
2005 - The Maxwell Award - College Player of the Year
2005 - Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award
2005 - 1st Team All-Big 12 Conference honors (unanimous decision)
2005 - Rose Bowl Most Valuable Player (at end of 2004 season)
2004 - Honorable mention All-Big 12 Conference honors
2003 - Big 12 Conference Offensive Freshman of the Year
Carr's 2001 Awards
Johnny Unitas Award
Football News Offensive Player of the Year
Sammy Baugh Award
WAC Offensive Player of the Year
CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
You make me laugh bro, strap it up before you make comments like that.
Guy shattered every record Fresno ever had, on the field and in the weight room............You never saw a game so you cant really say he accomplished nothing.
Yea he did nothing besides get drafted #1..................
That was only 2 years worth..........I doubt that is nothing.............O and do you know who holds the record for the most recieving yards for a WR in a bowl game? Rodney Wright Fresno State 299 yards..........Carr threw for 531 yards.............
He did all that with only 29 yards rushing for the team. When the Defense knew he was throwing the ball.
Your deffinition of nothing is scary.
Could we add David Klingler to the poll?
Wow!!!! Carr led his team to a loss against a 7-5 (32nd ranked) Michigan State team. And that's the highlight of his college career???
That's what I was thinking too... Klingler and Andre Ware.
This is priceless. So throwing for 521 yds and 4 TD's is not doing his part?--it isn't a great game from the QB because his team couldn't rush or play D? Y'all are drawing way too narrow a line and one obviously chosen to pick a certain person. But for Michael Huff stopping White, by this standard VY's Rose Bowl performance would have been worthless. That's silly--VY's game was epic either way.
Vince Young: Led team to National Championshsip
David Carr: Did not lead team to National Championship
Discussion ends right there.
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