Where will David Baas be drafted?

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  1. Texan in Japan

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    http://www.draftdaddy.com/prospects/davidBaas.cfm

    As some sites are saying Baas is best lineman out of Mich since Hutchinson, I'm thinking are dream of him being there in round 2 might not be a reality. In the mock, Vinny did a brilliant job of trading down twice and getting Baas late in round one. I think his approach may be best strategy if Baas is our target.

    I really like what he's been able to do and his versatility is a plus. Once again, CC/Dom may have other ideas, but Baas' press is very intriguing given our needs and his talent.
     
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    Chicago has shown interest in Baas (2nd/#39). Cleveland's number one need seems to be OL (OG and OC). Depending on what they do with their first pick, there may be interest in Baas at 2nd/#34. New England may have some interest at 1st/#32. One of Baas' biggest assets is his efficency at both OG and OC. Rather than BPA, this year, I'm targeting Baas as my first pick. To have a reasonable shot for him being available, I'm looking to trade down to about the #25 area. Baas will still have good value here and will not be a "reach", provided his Combine numbers don't disappoint.
     
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    It has been reported that he will most likely have to be a center in the NFL. He jsut doesn't have the athleticism to play guard in the pros
     
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    u need to see his prospect video elsewhere in this board...he obviously has the ability to move.
     
  5. Lucky

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    This is just my opinion, but I think a center needs more athleticism than a guard does. A center has to move out to the 2nd level & find the MLB. He's usually the guy who has to slide over to pickup the inside blitz. Just snapping the ball (especially in the shotgun) and getting into your block requires some athleticism. A center may not need to have the raw strength of a guard, but I think he needs to be a good athlete.

    Now what I've heard is that Baas is talking to teams that want him at guard. That makes sense because it takes time for some guys to learn the line calls. Jake Grove was drafted by the Raiders last year and moved into the starting lineup at RG as a rookie. As Grove picks up Oakland's scheme, he'll move to center. Since Baas has limited time in college spent at center, guard may be where he begins his career.

    I could see the bottom 3 teams in the 1st (Pitt, Philly, NE) take a hard look at Baas. Baas becomes a value pick anywhere in the early-mid part of round 2.
     
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    Theres no doubt that he has the ability to play guard, but what I love is that he could play OG and OC and help out in whatever position we need.
     
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    Which is a common misconception about offensive linemen. People always think, "versatility is the best attribute in an O-Lineman!", which just isnt true. Few players can switch positions and live up the potential they were projected to be at their natural position. You will notice the true dominant players at their positions on the OLine played that position throughout college. W.Jones, Pace, Ogden, L.Allen, etc. When drafting O-Lineman who you hope to become dominant players, you want them to stick to one position and lock it down.
     
  8. Vinny

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    Some teams value him at G, some at C. Either way he is one of the best, if not the best interior line prospects in this draft, and I saw a quip somewhere that stated that some scouts think he is the best Offensive lineman in this draft period. This draft is not easy to read because of the lack of high grades (so called can't miss types). Baas could go earlier than most people think. I'm sure he grades out much higher than the Notre Dame Center (Jeff Faine) a few drafts back, and Faine is not a guy who can move around and play Guard like Baas can, and more and more teams play big NT's over the Center now....so if Faine can be taken at 21st overall then Baas has the potential to be taken higher.
     


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    Im not saying that we should switch him from center to guard and back throughout his career. I was saying that we need a player at both gaurd and center and which ever the Texans feel is the bigger need, we can draft him and come out with a good choice.
     
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    Perhaps I'm just high on McKinney and Pitts, but I really dont see the need to trade up or down to take Baas. I mean, yes he's a great project, but there are a fair number of good G prospects who can be taken in the 2nd/3rd, so we can fill our huge weaknesses with our 1st and 2nd at LT and SS.
     
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    If we take an LT or an SS in the first or second round I'd be shocked. Center is probably our biggest need outside of TE in this offense, and Glenn Earl has shown he can play.
     
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    There are no first round calibre TEs(I dont like H.Miller at all) and I never, ever, ever like a Center going in the first round, let alone #13.Are you seriously going to tell me you'd rather take, H.Miller or trade down for Baas over taking T.Davis or Barren at #13??
     
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    Where in the world did you see me post that I thought we would take a Center at 13, or a TE for that matter? This thread is about Bass and where he projects, and I was just telling you that I dissagree with what you perceive as our team needs. I've given opinion on the draft in other threads concerning the LT and the TE.
     
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    :hmmm:

    If it's not an LT, SS, TE or C with #13, who would you take??? I know this is a thread about Baas and I posted my opinion on him/his projections. Now I'm asking you who you'd take at #13.
     
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    I'm not going to encourage you guys to go off-topic and steal threads. Ask me in a thread with that content.
     
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    No offense...but how is this going off topic??? The topic of the thread followed a natural progression to what the Texans needs are and the position Baas plays and his relation to the Texans.Baas is a G/OL, everyone who has posted so far has commented on the OL status of the Texans and where Baas would fit in and be drafted.Thus, when we are talking about Baas' draft position, questions are going to be raised on how the Texans would acquire him. Hardly off topic at all.
     
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    :thumbup I don't remember anyone saying Baas at 13 . Most people think he'll be a late 1st or 2nd . In our make believe drafts we had a variety of picks at 13 with Baas going to us in the 2nd . You have to remember this is our wish list .
     
  18. Vinny

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    You can do as you wish. I'm just not going to turn a "where is Bass going to be drafted" thread into another "who do we pick at 13" thread. I'm just not going to encourage you guys to do this kind of thing. It took me a long time to figure out how to post in an internet society (specifically message boards)....and thats just how I feel.
     
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    Noone said Baas at 13, I was asking a simple question since my views on the obvious glaring team needs and Vinny's differs.

    Most Mock drafts have Baas going 25-35 range(except NFL Draft Countdown and I dont agree with basically any of their selections..at least until their next mock changes, like it always seems to do), I dont remember checking out a single one that has us landing Baas(without trading up).
     
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    After the senior bowl practices, it was determined that his best position would probably be center.
     

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