What position John McClain said we will take...

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  1. TheOgre

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    I know many of you are sceptacle about John McClain. I personally think he is pretty good. I don't always agree with him but I think he is a stand up guy.

    In the previous 3 years, he has come out and told us what position he thought they would pick. He is 3 for 3 on that. Right before the draft, he has actually picked the player we would likely take (he is 3 for 3 on that as well). He seems to have better sources inside the Texans than people think (either that or he is EXTREMELY good at guessing).

    On 610 radio today, he all but said we would take a WR. He did say we might opt for pass-rusher instead, but that was unlikely. He discounted taking OT Barron because he might be a liability starting immediately. So from this point forward, I am going to assume we are either taking a ROLB or WR2.
     
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    funny listened to 610 also and while McClain noted that WR (Williamson) would be a need to compliment AJ he might be gone & that if the Texans went OLB (like a Babin) that he would need to be profiecent in pass coverage. i personally think the Texans have their eye on Darryl Blackstock, Virgina with the 2nd rd. pick he already has 3-4 experience and now his coach is a Texan assistant.

    then he went on to say the Texans may in fact pick a CB. specificly Carlos Rogers name was mentioned, John mentioned three sources he trusts all recorded his 40 times as legit form 4.31 to 4.38. CB does make sense if Williamson is gone, with Dunta & Carlos on the corners, Glenn playing nickle and rotating in different schemes would be very disruptive. from the couple of times I saw Rogers play he was very physical hitting like a Safety and would be excellent coming of the edge in blitzing situations & with his speed like Dunta should be able to get to QB's at will.
     
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    BeerLover I agree totally with your post. Blackstock is the best pass-rushing OLB in the draft other than Demarcus Ware who we could grab in the first round. We would be lucky to get Carlos Rogers who will be available when we pick and he and Dunta will be a serious duo. Carlos would become a mid-year starter.

    We could easily grab a WR in the third that will be more explosive than Gaffney whether it be Jerome Mathis or Michael Bradley.
     
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    He did backpedal but he still said that he thinks WR is the Texan's first choice. I hope one of the "Big 3" WR's falls to us. I could see Chicago, Minnesota, Washington, Tennessee and/or San Diego potentially drafting WR's ahead of us. Any other teams that might go WR? We know Arizona won't LOL.
     
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    Does this mean that the texans will trade down? White and Williamson are good, but most people expect them to go in the second half of the first round.
     
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    I dont see us trading down if we make a trade it will be to move up to get a top-tier prospect. there is also no big 3 among the receivers in this draft. Edwards and Williams are in a class of their own and the seperation between White, Williamson, and Clayton will be upon what a team likes more. White is the more physical receiver, Williamson is the speedster, and Clayton is the playmaker. It just depends on what you are looking for. Dont look for either of them to go before the 15th pick. Eventhough Carolina could pick up White who they are high on.
     
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    I can do the same thing he is doing. Guessing.

    We might opt for a pass-rusher instead.... no ****, we are a 3-4 team. A pass rusher is always a posibility.
     
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    1. We trade up to get DJ or stay put and grab best D player available ie Demarcus Ware or Marcus Spears or E. James
    2. Please let draft gods smile on us and daryl blackstock fall to us if not grab a OL Adam Terry of Syracuse or a Wideout
    3. We have two picks skys the limit fill need

    See I guessed Likely one of those guesses will be right yeah I am 1 for 1
     


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    He first said he thought WR first, that is the one I am going with. Last year he said CB when most people were still thinking we would go D-line (back in February 2004).

    He said we would take a WR in 2003 and specifically AJ a couple of weeks before the draft. Everyone knew we would take Carr in 2002. That was one of the worst kept secrets in NFL draft history.

    It becomes harder to predict now that we aren't at the top of the draft.
     
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    K now that i am hearing about Orlando Pace. I dont think we will have a pick. If we still do. Spears wont be there he will be taken 12 chargers. Williamson will be there he could actually fall to 14 or 19. Blackstock is a end of 1st round to beginning 2nd roound player. Carlos Rodgers i have slipping into the top 20's. All could help. Rodgers doesnt make sense because we signed sanders and we have faggins. Blackstock makes sense only if we trade down and sit Peek. i doubt that. Williamson is a good possibility but now that pace might be coming here i doubt any of them will be taken. I think the Texans will take gibson in the 2nd round WR
     
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    If we trade for Pace, there's no way we'll still have the 13th pick
     
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    or a 1st rounder this year or next year a second rounder next year. We wont have much. But hey Carr will sleep alot better knowing this
     
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    John McClain never mention'ed PACE, guess he just didn't want to spill the beans and ruin his credibilty with the Texans front office :heh:

    man this kinda sucks for us draft geeks doen't it? how do you all feel? No chance at Williamson or Johnson or Pac or Rogers or Davis just to name a few. guess the Rams will go ahead & draft Barron @ #13
     
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    well what i am hearing is that they wont lest pace go for under 2 1st round picks. If we go that way we wont have 1 this year or next year. I can see this year bc there really isnt 13 good quality picks like last year, I havent looked at next yers crop yet so i dont know
     
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    once again for all those draft Barron threads, McClain flatly denied the Texans had any interest in taking a offensive lineman with the 13th pick, he said (how to put it nicely...) none where good enough.

    WR if Williamson is available or a CB like Carlos Rogers @ #13 unless another trade materializes :whew
     
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    McClain isn't wrong...yet.
     
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    The funny thing is that if there was a good enough tackle, like Dbrickshaw, he would go in the top 5.

    I know Barrons not as good a prospect as Dbrickshaw, and thats why dbrick would go top 5, and Barron will not.

    just my :twocents:
     
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    McClain came out and said that he thinks the Texans will take Troy Williamson if he is still on the board. Keep in mind that he told us we would pick Carr, AJ, and Dunte before the draft as well.
     
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    And something else he got right - he said all along that Bosseli would not
    play for us. I think he had some real insider info on that series of events involving Bosseli.
    If he is right about Williamson, then in the event he's gone when we pick at 13 theres a good chance we take Mark Clayton. Though he is not as big as
    the SC receiver, he is almost as fast and has great hands and runs very good routes. And he would have the perfect disposition to be the #2 behind
    AJ - a real team guy with a great work ethic.
     
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    the same thing he said last week (at least he is not waffleing) :fib a caller also asked him if the Texans would take Carlos Rogers and McClain flatly stated not with the 13th pick.

    Personally I don't think with the depth at WR in the draft we use our 1st on one, maybe a 2nd but I think our backfield is much more suspect than Andre Johnson, Jabbar Gafney & Derrick Armstrong to name a few as oppossed to Domianck Davis, David Wells and Tony Hollings.

    Since the CB position is also deep maybe they do go OLB as he indicated was a possiblity, does Merriman slip, how high do the Texans rate Pollack or are they keeping quiet about a Demarcus Ware to name a few?
     

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