Discussion in 'College Football & the NFL Draft' started by Double Barrel, Jan 2, 2013.
What May Be The Nastiest, Helmet-Popping, Game-Changing Tackle Ever
He blew that fool up!
*tweeeeet* That's a penalty in the NFL!
Yup, even in college it is most of the time. Then the celebration afterward is inconsistently called in college. In the Orange Bowl, an FSU linebacker got a 15 yarder for half of the celebration, and he was not joined by teammates.
Great hit and all, but some sort of consistency is needed. I don't know what is a penalty an what is not anymore.
totally agree with you there. I think you can get away with more at the College level as well...and it's just as dangerous as the NFL. Ask anyone with a concussion.
I don't think that would be a penalty in the nfl. Just think, have you ever see a helmet-to-helmet call against a hit on a RB? That kind of penalty is reserved for WRs and QBs. WRs activities are mostly in open space where they're less likely be able to protect themselves due to them focusing on catching pass. Where as RB already have the ball and is fair game for all.
You got that right....
He probably would have been ejected from the game.
There's only one word for that hit
Complain about the hit all you want .... but I point to the official who marked the previous play a first down when it was clearly several inches short.
That was a special play ....
Yeah i think the refs didn't give Michigan 15 yards to make up for the blown call a play earlier. They need to send Clowney to the NFL before he kills somebody on the college level
i'll take this one though.
OK, I guess you will have to spell it out for me, why is that illegal in the NFL?
Helmet to helmet. Even though clowney is 6'6" and the dude was probably 5'10" some part of clowney's helmet hit some part of the short dude's helmet. Not intentional at all, but the NFL has gotten that legalistic.
That's a helmet to helmet if I ever saw one.
Terrible blocking really.
No one touched Clowney, pretty inexcusable.
The hit looked legal to me...here is another shot from someone's TV
Now the celebration is excessive and could be penalized.
Even if it was illegal refs will never call a personal foul for hits against a running back on rushing plays. It's only call during the act of catching a pass when receiver can't protect themselves.
Helmet to helmet isn't illegal in the NFL unless it's against a defenseless player (not just receiver). Contrary to your comment, there's 8 specific categories of defenseless player listed in NFL rules.
A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass;
A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;
A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped;
A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air;
A player on the ground at the end of a play;
A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return;
A quarterback at any time after a change of possession;
A player who receives a "blindside" block when the blocker is moving toward his own end zone and approaches the opponent from behind or from the side.
None of those eight apply to this play, and therefore, it would be considered a legal play in the NFL.
Just to give an example, the following play was specifically ruled not to be illegal by the NFL last postseason.
Exactly. It has become popular to complain about imaginary NFL rules. It is perfectly legal to have helmet to helmet initial contact with a runner in the NFL.
I've never seen a helmet pop off like that. Sucker must have flown 15 ft.
The running back must have made fun of his last name - Clowney
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