What is the rebuilding path?

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  1. Runner

    Runner Hubcap Diamond Staff Member

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    I am going to assume the Texans need to rebuild. Further, I am going to assume they make some changes in the coaching and maybe the front office before next season. Given that, how should the Texans rebuild this time?

    Option 1:

    Do it "the right way". Get about 6 wins next year, go 8-8 for a couple of non-losing seasons, reach the winning goal of 9-7, and then in year five win 11 or 12 games and make the play-offs.


    Option 2:

    Take the approach to try and turn it around next year and make some noise in the play-offs the year after that. This approach risks...well, I'm not sure it risks anything. I was never clear on that.


    I'll go on the record for option 2. I'd like to see them improve quickly.

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  2. CretorFrigg

    CretorFrigg Fire Rick Smith

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    McNair bought into Kubiak's BS that it takes 5+ years to rebuild, which is clearly false. Look at the Chiefs.
     
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  3. Norg

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    we need to rebuild in 2014 and get rdy for the SB in 2015 n Houston that should be our goal to make the SB that year and rebuilding next year will help us


    We need to do a clean reset Fire everybody from the GM and front office down to the towel boy

    Bring in a new regime in here

    obvs they will overall the entire roster ...Bassically trimming the fat and get the CAP in the best situation its ever been in so in 2015 we can splurge in Free agents

    and obvs our goal in 2014 will be to make the playoffs just to get EXP
     
  4. houstonspartan

    houstonspartan Hall of Fame

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    Yep. A lot of Texans fans bought into it as well. It's almost like living in a time warp: other teams are doing total re-builds in 3-4 years, and we trudge along in year 8 - still waiting.

    The other problem is the Steelers. McNair really wants a franchise that stable. But, the Steelers having 3 coaches in 40 years is extremely rare and they have done it by hiring solid people.


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  5. Norg

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    Yeah bob wants so bad for us to model after the steelers and the packers to be consistent year n and year out but there is one problem the steelers don't go

    2-14 or 6-10


    and there lowest lately has been like 7-9 or 8-8
     
  6. dream_team

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    I think the Chiefs are pretenders. They are a lot better than last year, but are still missing some pieces to be taken seriously as an annual contender.
     
  7. dream_team

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    At least he has a good vision.
     
  8. houstonspartan

    houstonspartan Hall of Fame

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    Correct. Whenever the Steelers slip, Mike Tomlin sticks his foot up players butts, threatening jobs and reminding them about "what it means to be a Steeler."

    That franchise has high standards and everyone there knows it.


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  9. acal21

    acal21 Rookie

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    There is no reason to rebuild. Fire coach Kubiak, get healthy, and compete for a super bowl

    I was one to believe in Kubiak... it does take time to rebuild but now he is showing me that he can't get it done as a coach
     
  10. Playoffs

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    It's a QB league.

    We need one.
     
  11. srrono

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    Fire all coaching staff

    JJ going into last year of deal need to lock him in a new contract
    J.J. Watt 2014/15 3,575,540

    cut or restructured
    Johnathan Joseph 2014/15 11,250,000 2015/16 12,250,000
    Owen Daniels 2014/15 6,250,000

    Cut
    Danieal Manning 2014/15 6,000,000
    Matt Schaub 2014/15 14,500,000 2015/16 17,000,000
    2016/17 19,000,000
    Derek Newton 2014/15 660,064

    FA
    Antonio Smith is FA let go unless resign on the cheap
    Wade Smith FA let go
    Joe Mays FA ?
    Greg Jones FA let go
    Ben Tate FA let go
    Earl Mitchell FA resign after test of market
    Darryl Sharpton FA let go
    Garrett Graham FA resign
    Ryan Harris FA
    Lestar Jean RFA
    Bryan Braman RFA
    Terrell McClain RFA
    Elbert Mack UFA
    Ricky Sapp ERFA
    Deji Karim FA
    Jeff Tarpinian FA
    Josh Victorian ERFA
     
  12. MEGA SWATT

    MEGA SWATT Hall of Fame

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    I keep hearing that, but they have Andy Reid. They're definitely what their record says they are.

    I want the Texans to get back to being relevant and take the next step towards beating the top teams in the league rather than another decade of crap.
     
  13. steelbtexan

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    Depends on what you think of Keenum.

    I would personaly clean house and do what previous regimes haven't done. Build the foundation OL/DL?ILB in this draft and if Keenum isn't the guy draft a QB in 2015.

    BTW, This is an above avg draft at OL/DT/OLB.
     
  14. Scooter

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    this is extremely disingenuous. we werent any other franchise, we were an expansion team. our best players were retiring jacksonville and jets castoffs and andre johnson. starting from square one, yeah it takes a few years. in 4 seasons we replaced all but 1 player. a new coaching staff wont have to go through that because of the slow motion process you and some others are griping about. andre, duane brown, brandon brooks, deandre hopkins, arian foster, tightends, jj watt, mercilus, cushing, kareem, joseph, manning, and swearinger. legit starters that our next coach will walk into, all but 2 being home grown. a new coach being able to use that talent and provide inspiration will be the reason behind any quick turnaround, not some magical "win now" approach.
     
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    look at the teams who have won SB's the last few years for one only like a handful of QB these past few years have been winning SB's..... and the rest have just been watchin or getting beat in the SB


    that's why I was so shocked when flacco won one because that's a new nam not named Brady manning big ben Rodgers and brees and all of those teams are obvs stable

    so the bottom line is u gotta get a QB and that QB has to be A superstar ..then u build around him

    Steelers Drafted big ben and have been stable

    Pats drafted Brady Colts drafted Manning GB and Saints etc etc


    its a roll of the dice IMO
     
  16. Norg

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    nahh Rick smith and killed this team we have some good players yeah all teams do but we also have aging stars who u think are good but really aren't our core has failed Us and we need a new core

    Wade smith,Chirs myers,RG,RT Schaub,yates,keenum, Foster ,FB,Andre ,Kevinwalter, Jocboy jones, have all failed

    ST FAILED

    don't even get me started on the DEF there is a lonnnngggg list

    that's like 88% of the team that failed we need to rebuild
     
  17. steelbtexan

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    Agreed,

    Are you willin to wait until 2015 to get a great QB? Or are you wanting to reach an get the next Sam Bradford?
     
  18. Norg

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    I willing to wait no doubt lets build the Tenches intill we find our guy I say if hes not there next year

    look every new regime there first year the get a PASS to do whatever
     
  19. steelbtexan

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    2-9

    After 8 yrs?
     
  20. steelbtexan

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    I think I agree with you?

    But I did drink at the game today?
     

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