What has gone wrong since Celeveland, 2004?

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  1. Runner

    Runner Hubcap Diamond Staff Member

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    Tailgate Fall of Hame

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    Everything.
     
  3. gtexan02

    gtexan02 Working?

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    I've been saying this for the past year now...
     
  4. HomeBred_Texan

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    My thoughts exactly, except for this the fact that Carr is getting better...
     
  5. Scottyboy

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    Phillip Bu-Terrible had alot to do with the Terrible Secondary!!
     
  6. Malloy

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    Apart from the fact that he's not really on the field due to injury ?
     
  7. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    The slide started about 6 games before Cleveland. The early production of the offense was aided by playing some really rotten defenses too, so it's not like the Browns triggered the decline of this team.

    I said pretty much the same thing here a few days ago...
     
  8. Goldeagle

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    Nobody can catch.

    AJ drops passes
    Gaffney and Bradford dropped passes
    Putzier drops passes
    our DEFENSIVE BACKS drop passes
     


  9. nunusguy

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    Looking back, we really did get some very good defensive players in the
    2002 X Draft: Aaron Glenn, Gary Walker, Jamie Sharper, Marcus Coleman,
    & Seth Payne. That's 2/3 of your DLine (in Capers 3-4), both CBs, and an
    outstanding LB. And thiose guys, while not cheap, were in their prime as I
    think they were all < 30, but each with several years NFL experience as starters. The only guy we may have today in any of those players category is D-Rob ?
    Oh for the good ole days !
     
  10. beerlover

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    still with the talent on the field the Texans should be at least competitive. I like the direction the offense is headed with Kubiak, but defensively I have no idea what Richard Smiths 4-3 is supposed to look like. I always liked the 3-4 scheme better, we just did not have the players to run it.....now with Mario & Weaver we do, yet Texans remain trying to make the 4-3 work. For one game I would like to see them run some 3-4 sets (key players from last year certainly have not forgot how to play it) just like they ran some 4-3 last year, mix it up a little. Don't just move Mario around change the sets to keep the offense unsettled, I don't care if they even call it a hybrid 4-3 :twocents:
     
  11. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    I think the same thing. Incredible irony or yet again trying to stuff a system down the players throat instead? This is why I don't like "system guys" sometimes. They were hell bent on making this team a 4-3 team and nothing could stop them. Mario doesn't look like an elite 4-3 edge rusher at all but does look like the prototype tweener DE/DT that the 3-4 uses.
     
  12. nunusguy

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    Excellent point V, and if Mario's natural position in the NFL is as a DE in the
    3-4, that makes Kubiak's pick even more ill advised than it does already look.
    Can you imagine, a Draft with Vince Young, Matt Leinert, Reggie Bush, etc. and the HC uses the #1 overall on a downlineman for a 3-4 !
     

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