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  1. steelbtexan

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    Asking the agent thru back channels happens all of the time.

    It usually happens at the combine. How do you think FA's sign so quickly when FA begins?
     
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    Well FA's aren't under contract even though the FA signing period hasn't opened, so that is a bit of apples and oranges.

    We are talking about front office personnel currently under contract by another team. How exactly do you know that teams reach out to their agents to determine the conditions of their existing contracts with other teams? I would think that doing so before asking for permission to interview, especially when (using your words) they say they are thinking about hiring them, would be the textbook definition of tampering.
     
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    Not sure about coaches & execs. All player contracts are filed with the league. Not public per se but so many people have access it might as well be. Would guess coaches & execs sre filed as well as the Rooney rule can be circumvented by guaranteeing promotion.
     
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    At the same time it must not need to be approved or else league policy breaking provisions, like many people say the no interview clause was, would be challenged before ever taking effect. I think its more of teams don't go after other teams front office people like they do players. Most teams either let a person go else where if they want, hire from the large pool of people not currently with a team or bring someone up from the college level. This whole, we want to hire this guy but the other team won't let us interview him is somewhat uncommon. Most teams don't want a unhappy camper making any of their decisions.
     
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    I suspect those people are wrong. If it was a violation the league wouldn't allow its enforcement or would penalize.

    Happens fairly often but the current team commonly gives a hefty pay raise, new title & future assurances.
     
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    Gaine probably could have figured out caserios contract
     
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    Clubs never talk to agents before approaching players/ coaching/gm candidates. Ok

    BTW, it's not ttampering to talk to a friend of an agent, tell him to relay your interest in a guy and have the agent look at the contract. If you don't believe this happens then you're quite naive.
     
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    No, what I was saying is that you mentioned FA's, who technically don't have contracts, so one could approach their agent about the interest of the player to want to play for them, but they wouldn't be trying to figure out contract info because there isn't any.

    Regarding players currently under contract, someone here pointed out that contracts are filed with the league office so I imagine that information is fairly easy to obtain.

    I do agree that these clandestine conversations happen all the time. But I would think that if you have to go through the backdoor channels you are describing in order to obtain information, it's tampering. Otherwise why not just openly go directly to the agent? Seems like a difficult way of doing things if obtaining that information is not an infraction.
     
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    It happeninng is unconnected to whether it is tampering. Your scenario is absolutely tampering.
     
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    Since we can't even agree that the Rockets have been more successful than the Texans over the last 5 years then I really can't respond to you.

    But to answer your question you use backdoor channels t get the guy you want. Like you said it happens all of the time. At least with orgs that aren't clusterfvck it does.
     
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    Your actions speak otherwise, otherwise.
     
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    There's plenty of time left for that to still happen.
     
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    Wow seems like a great idea.
     
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    NastyNate I go kerplunk

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    So we're stuck in limbo the next two years and this pretty much guarantees at least 9 years of Obrien. Crap on a stick.
     
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    LOL watch Caserio decide to stay!!
     

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