Welcome to Houston Tyrann Mathieu

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  1. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    young whippersnapper probably ain't up yet
     
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  2. thunderkyss

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    So because we won you believe BO'b outcoached those coaches. I see where you are now. Don't worry, I will never address you again concerning BO'b the coach. You either don't want to see or are incapable of seeing. Either way, can't have a conversation with you.
    I answered as completely & honestly as I could. You are blind to what a coach is supposed to do in regards to talent.
    I honestly believe we were as talented as the Steelers in 2018, but we suffered from a coach who did not put our best talent on the field. Defensively shouldn't be a question, with all the talent Rick stacked the defense with, with Brian Gaine fixing the Safety position with HB & Ried... we're as talented as Pittsburgh.
    Offensively Watson/Roethlisberger, Hopkins/Brown, Connor/Miller...
    Our best TEs on the bench, our best Guard on the bench being groomed for a Tackle, our best Center on the bench, no idea what to do with D.Thomas, can't get Carter consistently involved, can't design a pass to a RB.
    So, without beating around the Bush, I plainly say yes, we were as talented as the Steelers in 2018.
     
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    Actually I was giving proper thanks to our Lord & Savior.
     
  4. steelbtexan

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    Actually the fact that you think the Texans are as talented as the Steelers means we are never going to agree and no winning isn't the only thing that defines a HC but it comes down to winning or the HC's gone. I would also say he also outcoached Pederson's SB winning Eagles, since he was down to his 4th/5th string WR's and missing his top 3 CB 's and still his team a had great chance to win that game but the defense couldn't hold up due to RAC and injuries.

    What games would you say he was outcoached in? I will give you the 1st Tacks game and the NYG's game. But know this, the defense everybody was touting as bada** before the season started was way overrated. Gotta fix the CB's.

    If Dillard is there I take him. If he's not and Greedy is there as has been rumored I take him and trade back into the late 1st/early 2nd for an OT that can play either LT/RT and hopefully sign a LT in FA. This all depends on who they get in FA.
     
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  5. thunderkyss

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    We have an opportunity to add talent to our team every year. We should do our best to acquire the best talent we possibly can.

    When we see our offense dominate & take advantage of defenses I'll say O'Brien has outcoached someone. But as long as our offense continues to make magic out of no win situations, he gets very little credit for talent overcoming poor coaching.

    There were a couple of games, I think Buffalo & Miami where he coached our offensive talent. The way he coached our talent at the end of the Jags game, I liked that as well. But everything else seems like he's forcing square pegs in round holes.
     
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  6. steelbtexan

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    Maybe just maybe that had something to do with the teams the Texans were playing talent level and the talent level on the Texans roster.
     
  7. JPPT1974

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    Wonder if they will get him a new deal or will he sign one year deal again?
     
  8. steelbtexan

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    If he stays on Kirby it will be on a multi yr contract.

    HB gambled on himself last yr and won.
     
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    A lot of teams waiting for him to hit free agency...Texans better close the door soon.
     
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    Texans are making a push to try to retain safety Tyrann Mathieu, including a preliminary contract offer, according to league sources. Fluid situation, but they are doing what they can to keep him. My sense is he wants to remain in Houston, but he will have plenty of offers

    — Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 5, 2019

    Ravens Expected To Make “Strong Push” To Sign S Tyrann Mathieu
     


  11. michaelm

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    Ravens cut Eric Weddle earlier so they are likely in the market for a safety
     
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    There are relatively speaking a lot of top safeties in the market this offseason.
     
  13. Porky

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    If they lose KJ AND HB, they need to go balls to the wall to try and sign Landon Collins. Hopefully they resign HB and we'll be in pretty good shape at safety.
     
  14. Earl34

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    The last four games of the season, I wasn't impressed with Mathieu. I appreciate him taking less money to signed with the Texans, but is anyone concerned that the Texans might over pay for reputation more than on-field play? For example:
    • He's only had one season with more than 2 INTs
    • He's only played 16 games twice in 6 seasons and both were contract years
    • He has a reputation as a turnover magnet, but in 6 seasons he only has 13 INTs, 2 FR and 4 FF

    If you compare Mathieu and Jackson's seasons, the numbers are really close. If your three safeties are Reid, Jackson and Hal. How much better is it with Reid, Mathieu and Hal? What is the salary difference?
     
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    They are both FA, so it depends who takes the deals offered, no salary to compare. They are targeting HB because he is 5 years younger with still some ceiling, that is my view. Safeties like KJ, HB, Collins, Thomas are all floating around. Will be interesting to see who wants to play where and for how much money. I don't lose sleep as we have Hal and Reid already, so any of these good FAs would leave safety in a pretty good situation. The OT market is much tighter, and CB market is not the best either, so those make me watch much closer how serious Gaine is going to be in free agency
     
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    Plenty of FS's, precious few SS's - in the draft, or FA.
    The honey badger is a little on the smaller side, so might just be a casualty.
    Texans secondary may go through a 2 year rebuild here.
     
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    I rather go Adrian Amos and avoid signing the big name box safety with very limited coverage skills that is Landon Collins. Someone is going to give him $10-12 a year and regret it

    RAC likes playing 2 high safeties each who can cover well and be responsible for half of the field. Amos and Reid together would suit those needs perfectly
     
  18. Porky

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    Point taken. I know Collins is more of a box safety. I am only mildly familiar with Amos so I'll take your word on him. Good points though and I'll cede that point to you.
     
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    I'd take Amos in a second over Collins.
     
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    Is there a general FA thread anywhere around these parts to discuss possible FA additions/losses, wish lists, and signings?
     

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