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Week 4 QB Cutups (All 22)

Nitrofish

Let The Big Fish Eat!
Detach yourself from your emotions and watch these cutups with a non biased eye. What you will discover is that you did not see what you thought you did IMO. It was a terrible team loss, and the QB is always an easy target, especially with our history with the position. That said, Mallett played well and would have had a 77% --give or take-- completion percentage had WR's done their jobs and caught the balls he threw.

I noted in the video when I counted a drop. You may disagree with a few, but to be fair, if the ball hit's your hands, as a professional NFL receiver, you have to catch the damn ball, or at least that's my take on it. Even our best receiver was struggling to hang on to the ball. I counted 9 drops while Mallett was playing, and 2 more while Hoyer was in there. You are not going to win many games with 11 drops and 4 turnovers. FTR, I counted the early INT as a drop by Hopkins. However, later in the game when Hopkins dropped a similar pass I did not count it because luckily Polk was nearby and caught the ball before it could hit the ground. It's cost us a first down however that would have kept Mallett's final drive alive.

As much as I hate to mention officiating, one thing is obvious watching these cutups, and that's how physical the Falcons were allowed to be with our Receivers. Plenty of missed calls that could have been game changing. That said, they are still obligated to catch the damn balls when it hits their hands IMHO.

You will see the O Line played pretty well in regards to pass protection. Of course there are some terrible plays as well, but you cannot win every play. The defense wins sometimes. No way around that. Mallett had a clean pocket to operate from for the most part. He moved well in the pocket when there was pressure to get the pass off. Yes, some of those passes were in the dirt, but both O'Brien and Mallett himself have confirmed many of those balls are being thrown away to protect the football. To be fair, there are some that are bad throws of course. But too many fans do not understand the idea of protecting the football when there is nothing there. They want to see a big scramble to keep the play alive and make something happen. While that might be exciting for some, it's not a winning formula in the NFL with few exceptions. Most people are used to seeing a QB throw it out of bounds when throwing it away, and Mallett does that sometimes too. But have a look at some of Brady's throws. They are in the dirt and clearly a throw away. Ask yourself this. Would you rather see an INT, or ball thrown in the dirt to live to play another snap?

Someone mentioned in another thread that Mallett only has a handful of wow throws. I disagree and this cutup alone has 4 or 5 throws that made me say WOW! Including the throw to Fiedo before he took the big hit and coughed up the ball. Very few QB's could make these throws, including Hoyer. I will note some of those throws with time codes below.

With every cutup I do, I come away with the feeling that our WR's are not holding up their end of the bargain. Some will say it's because Mallett throws to hard and has no touch. These cutups destroy those myths if you watch every throw. Be that as it may, these men are paid good money to catch the ball, and they are just not doing it consistently, even Hopkins. If they were getting more separation, perhaps Mallett would not have to try to fit everything into such small windows.

When Hoyer enters the game, the Falcons made wholesale changes mostly in their secondary leaving only 4 starters in the game. 3 DL's and 1 LB. The rest were 2nd and 3rd stringers. I make note of it in the cutup when Hoyer enters the game. The remaining starters were pulled shortly thereafter, but I did not highlight it when it happened. It was garbage time and it was all of our 1's against their scrubs, so keep that in mind while watching Hoyer operate. They played mostly zone as well once Hoyer entered and were content with keeping everything in front of them. I am not going to be commenting on any of Hoyer's throw's in this post.

WOW Throws
00:37: First throw of the game. Scrambling to his left --hardest throw for a right handed QB-- got his hips turned and fired an accurate ball to Foster crossing the middle, both on the run. If this throw did not wow you, nothing will. Especially from a guy who is 6'6" and runs like a giraffe, this was a great throw and catch.

5:48: This throw was incredible and a great catch by Fiedo for a big gain! Unfortunately a crushing hit by the safety forced Fido to cough up the ball. Possibly best throw of the game by Mallett as he buzzed it right passed the LB's ear who was clearly holding Fido.

6:47: From his own end zone on a rope to Mumphery for a big first down and some breathing room.

8:00: This is a bullet on the deep out that few QB's in the league can throw with that kind of velocity.

10:52: Gutsy throw on his 3rd progression on a rope to Mumphery for a 27 yard gain! Great catch by Mumphery absorbing the big hit! Only an arm talent like Mallett has could complete this pass. look at the footwork on this throw. It's perfect. No problems with his mechanics on this throw at all. This is the Mallett we need to see more often.

Drops
01:17: Hit Hopkins in the hands, and was accurate, but caused an INT when popped off of Hopkins chest. Questionable throw into a tight window as Mallett was locked onto Hopkins from the snap. That said, it was a catchable ball.

2:53: Perfectly thrown ball with tight coverage dropped by Hopkins

3:24: Perfectly thrown ball dropped by Graham after hitting hands in stride

3:54: Mallett is late with the ball IMO as he resets for some reason. Tight coverage but ball hits Graham's hands and is catchable. Possibly knocked away by defender but still a drop IMO as it was in Graham's hands who failed to pull it in. (Washington injures hammy on play)

5:14: Hopkins with tight coverage drops ball that hits him in hands. Possibly knocked away by defender. IMO the throw should have gone to Mumphery in the slot as there was no safety help on him crossing the field and he had a step.

8:27: Shorts drops a short pass with tight coverage. Ball looks completed, but it hits the ground.

10:26: Foster drops a perfectly thrown ball for a 6+ yard gain and acknowledges it when it gets up.

11:30: Hopkins drops another. Ball slightly behind him, but clearly catchable.

12:00: Foster drops one thrown behind him, but catchable IMO. (Disputable drop IMO)

***12:50: This is the one by Hopkins I did not count as a drop, but probably should have since it was the same as the INT only our guy caught the pop up instead of theirs. If you count this as a drop, it's 10 drops, 9 if not. 5 drops by Hopkins! He is our go to guy. He needs to be making these catches, no excuses.

Throw Away Balls
1:50: Two players in the same space. One of the guys screwed up here, and Mallett had just been picked off the previous series on a similar play. Two defenders in close proximity that could cause a pop up and another possible INT. Mallett does the smart thing and throws it away. Watch Shorts at the end of the play point over his shoulder while talking to Fido.

9:11: Looks bad to some fans, but in my eyes this is just Mallett protecting the ball and throwing it away. Perhaps Graham was supposed to run a hook or a hitch there?

There are a few others that may or may not be balls getting thrown away, but you can make up your own minds.


When commenting, please include time codes for reference.

If you did not know the score of this game, and you saw these cutups. Would you still think Mallett played terribly after seeing these all 22 plays?

Does Mallett have things still to get better at? Of course, but from I what I saw, he looked good most of the time. Great foot work, pretty accurate on most throws. Just not getting help from his receivers, especially Hopkins in this game.

What say you?
 
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Dear Mallett ... I realize that our best bandaid is moving you inside a broken pocket. I realize that your receivers can't get any separation. But, could you please float a few Hoyer-esque interceptions out there? The teamwork is weak with #15, expecting other people to do their job 'n stuff. It's not fair that our receivers have to get open in O'Brien's busted combinations and yet are still expected to catch a fastball that hits their hands ... FIX IT MALLETT!!!
 
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At 1:50 or so, the play was either a bust by the players or a terrible play design. 4 players run curls and two of them were right next to each other.....

At 2:53 Hopkins was clearly held coming out of his break, poorly missed call by the refs, still catchable though

the drop by graham at 3:24 was disguting. He had room to get up field

At 3:53, another poor play design, only two players go out for a pass and Washington falls down and gets hurt

i agree at 5:14, the ball should have gone to mumphrey for a huge gain

at 9:11 it looks like graham ran the wrong route, mallett threw it as soon as graham turned his head, but instead of squating on the rout he kept running upfield

at 9:30 the ball should have gone to graham, missed read and bad decision to throw to hopkins who was doubled

at 12:00 another missed read. he had hopkins open


at 12:20 another missed read, had shorts (i believe him) on the sam side as hopkins but ran a deep slant and mallett threw into double coverage again

This cut up makes me feel better about Mallett. he is doing some great things but the balls arent being caught. He is still making 5 or so bad throws/poor decisions a game, but I belive that improves with playing time
 
6:47: From his own end zone on a rope to Mumphery for a big first down and some breathing room.
That was a tremendous throw and an equally tremendous catch by Mumphery if you factor in the rookies ability to retain possesion after a very hard hit. I think that's where the refs picked up a flag which I immediately thought was gonna be the refs flagging the DB for targeting a defenseless receiver.
 
Sure Mallet has demonstrated "growing pains as should be expected. But the surest way to get a QB maligned, especially in a complicated offensive system like this one, is to put him with receivers with greased palms and short-circuiting brains.
 
That was a tremendous throw and an equally tremendous catch by Mumphery if you factor in the rookies ability to retain possesion after a very hard hit. I think that's where the refs picked up a flag which I immediately thought was gonna be the refs flagging the DB for targeting a defenseless receiver.
Something else to consider is how much confidence it shows O'Brien has in Mallet allowing him to throw from our own end zone like that, and this is not the first time. Mumph went off in this game and contributed nicely IMO. He will get more shots with Washington out and possibly shorts.
 
Sure Mallet has demonstrated "growing pains as should be expected. But the surest way to get a QB maligned, especially in a complicated offensive system like this one, is to put him with receivers with greased palms and short-circuiting brains.
Have to remember it is Shorts, Washington 1st year in the system even though they are veterans. I look back now and can't help but think what a huge mistake Dre made jumping ship. He would have been much better in this system than in the Colts, but I guess he lost faith finally, and now look at where he is. It really hurt us too. We could have utilized him better than the Colts are.

I can't help but think that the concussion Hopkins suffered is still bothering him. Look at how many drops he has had over the last 3 games. He does not seem himself.
 
Detach yourself from your emotions and watch these cutups with a non biased eye.

Drops
01:17: Hit Hopkins in the hands, and was accurate, but caused an INT when popped off of Hopkins chest. Questionable throw into a tight window as Mallett was locked onto Hopkins from the snap. That said, it was a catchable ball.

What say you?

I think it was a bad decision by Mallett to throw this ball.

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Prior to the snap he identified one of the two LBs to his right as the MIKE. Most likely an "if they blitz, then the hot route is on that side" kind of thing, but they don't blitz. So you basically have three defenders in an area where you only have two receivers (until that LB sees Arian). He ends up throwing the ball into a lot of traffic. A throw over the top to the TE would have been a better throw.

On the bottom, you have two one on one match ups.

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Most likely that safety would be breaking to Mallett's left if Mallett were looking to his left. So the throw to the outside receiver would have been a tough one, but he's got a lot of room to the sideline & the CB is playing inside. Could have been a big play there.

It's interesting to note, Mallett has reached the bottom of his drop in this picture & getting ready to pump fake the ball. Our receiver at the bottom of the screen is about 7 yards off the LOS. If Mallett were to throw that ball, it's easily a fifteen yard in the air throw on a quick drop.

But I like the slot receiver. Before the snap, Mallett should have known with the single safety playing deep & bump & run coverage, the slot was going to be running to an open area with the defense behind him. If he threw a good ball to the slot receiver, he could have caught it, got the first down (he's already past the sticks) with the chance to turn it up for a big gain. That's either a LB or a safety on Cecil Shorts. That's where the ball should have gone, imo.
 
That's either a LB or a safety on Cecil Shorts. That's where the ball should have gone, imo.
Actually no, that is #20 Phillip Adams who is the nickle corner for the Falcons. Adams blanketed Shorts on that play. The ball should have gone to Foster on the dump off IMO. Take what the D gives you. Everyone else was covered, but the pass hit Hopkins in the hands before the defender got there. Should have been a catch.

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The match up was Fiedo --6' 5", 265-- on the 3rd string rookie FS --5' 9", 212-- down the seam. Mallett could have gotten it in there before the safety got there IMO.
 
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Actually no, that is #20 Phillip Adams who is the nickle corner for the Falcons. Adams blanketed Shorts on that play. The ball should have gone to Foster on the dump off IMO. Take what the D gives you. Everyone else was covered, but the pass hit Hopkins in the hands before the defender got there. Should have been a catch.

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The match up was Fiedo --6' 5", 265-- on the 3rd string rookie FS --5' 9", 212-- down the seam. Mallett could have gotten it in there before the safety got there IMO.

I'm with you on this one. Foster should have got the ball in the flat. It looks as if Mallet looked at Fido for a split second and then locked onto Hopkins. He never took his eyes off him. I remember thinking out loud, "throw it Foster, throw it to Foster, oh crap, interception!" He never took his eyes off Hopkins IIRC. He never looked to the left side. Isn't that Washington up the left side? Give him a shot, maybe draw a PI?

Yes, he hit Hopkins in the hand but at that range, the Mallet fastball is dang near impossible to catch.
 
At 2:53 Hopkins was clearly held coming out of his break, poorly missed call by the refs, still catchable though

:bravo: Thank you for pointing this out. That started out as a decent drive after the defense forced a 3 and out to start the game. That hold was a bad noncall. I don't think Mallett should have thrown it with that said, but Hopkins would have had more separation without the hold.
 
Yes, he hit Hopkins in the hand but at that range, the Mallet fastball is dang near impossible to catch.

Please for the love of god stop this crap. These are professional WRs that get paid a ton of money to catch a dam ball. If our DE can stand 2 feet from the jugs machine and catch rockets all day long why can our WRs catch the dam ball from 15 feet away with Mallet throwing it. He's not the bionic man.
 
Great job Nitro putting together the cut up. After watching, I still have to say all Mallett brings to the table is a very strong arm. He doesn't know how to put touch on the ball and he's not consistent with reads and/or accuracy. I'm not sure I've seen so many balls bouncing on the turf after a pass attempt. If he learns how to put some touch on the ball, he might be dangerous.
 
At 3:53, another poor play design, only two players go out for a pass and Washington falls down and gets hurt

Good comments overall. However, on this one I think Mallett has tunnel vision. He looks at & eventually throws to Washington, when the CB is step for step with him. He had a crossing TE wide open in the middle of the field. The LBs get sucked up with the play action, it would have been an easy pitch & catch. JMO.

With the play action I'd have thought that should have been his first read.
 
Good comments overall. However, on this one I think Mallett has tunnel vision. He looks at & eventually throws to Washington, when the CB is step for step with him. He had a crossing TE wide open in the middle of the field. The LBs get sucked up with the play action, it would have been an easy pitch & catch. JMO.

With the play action I'd have thought that should have been his first read.


I disagree, had washington not fallen down, looks like he would have been open on the come back route. Gaham had a safety who closed extremely fast on him. I think the call was terrible and we should just eliminte that one.
 
To the OP. Thanks for having the balls to post this. After reading your post i wasn't sure I wanted to read any replies. I really thought that this page would be bombarded with negative remarks about you making excuses.

Totally agree with everything you said. I've been here for years and have rarely pointed out the refs. These refs were horrible. All the flags they threw and yet they missed a lot of seriously easy calls. Atlanta got away with a ton of PI and offensive holding. Not saying it was the reason we lost but some of the calls they made/didnt make were at the worst possible times. Real momentum changers. Top that off with some really bad play here and there and it was a recipe for disaster.

Atlanta really isn't that good and we are really not that bad. I haven't Givin up on Mallet or this season. If people want to throw in the towel now then good for them. To each their own.
 
Maybe it's just apathy but I have no desire to go back and watch this offense on film after watching that abortion live. The only thing I will say is this....

This board is constantly making excuses for Mallett because of the WR's or the O-Line. Yes the WR's are professionals and they are paid to catch the ball. The drops are bad. That being said, Mallett is a professional QB and he's paid to deliver a timely and catchable ball. A lot of his passes are late and are poorly placed with no touch. It goes both ways. The WR's aren't helping Mallett and Mallett isn't helping the WR's. Everyone is to blame.
 
To the OP. Thanks for having the balls to post this. After reading your post i wasn't sure I wanted to read any replies. I really thought that this page would be bombarded with negative remarks about you making excuses.

Totally agree with everything you said. I've been here for years and have rarely pointed out the refs. These refs were horrible. All the flags they threw and yet they missed a lot of seriously easy calls. Atlanta got away with a ton of PI and offensive holding. Not saying it was the reason we lost but some of the calls they made/didnt make were at the worst possible times. Real momentum changers. Top that off with some really bad play here and there and it was a recipe for disaster.

Atlanta really isn't that good and we are really not that bad. I haven't Givin up on Mallet or this season. If people want to throw in the towel now then good for them. To each their own.

Atlanta's HC, Dan Quinn, was DC in Seattle and uses that same aggressive press-man style. Seattle and Atlanta get away with mugging WR's because they do it on every play and the refs aren't going to fog up the game with flags on every single play. This is why I have pounded the table for years that we need to get aggressive on defense and go to press man. This sitting back and waiting stuff has been getting us killed for years. So tired of it.
 
Maybe it's just apathy but I have no desire to go back and watch this offense on film after watching that abortion live. The only thing I will say is this....

This board is constantly making excuses for Mallett because of the WR's or the O-Line. Yes the WR's are professionals and they are paid to catch the ball. The drops are bad. That being said, Mallett is a professional QB and he's paid to deliver a timely and catchable ball. A lot of his passes are late and are poorly placed with no touch. It goes both ways. The WR's aren't helping Mallett and Mallett isn't helping the WR's. Everyone is to blame.

Bingo. But some people on this board will never understand that.
 
Maybe it's just apathy but I have no desire to go back and watch this offense on film after watching that abortion live. The only thing I will say is this....

This board is constantly making excuses for Mallett because of the WR's or the O-Line. Yes the WR's are professionals and they are paid to catch the ball. The drops are bad. That being said, Mallett is a professional QB and he's paid to deliver a timely and catchable ball. A lot of his passes are late and are poorly placed with no touch. It goes both ways. The WR's aren't helping Mallett and Mallett isn't helping the WR's. Everyone is to blame.

At TC I noticed Mallett has a long delivery and by the time he gets rid of it , even though he tries to compensate with velocity , it's behind the receiver . He needs to go skeet shooting .
 
Sure Mallet has demonstrated "growing pains as should be expected. But the surest way to get a QB maligned, especially in a complicated offensive system like this one, is to put him with receivers with greased palms and short-circuiting brains.

I think Hoyer's been sweet talking the equipment guy.
 
Results tend to speak for themselves. Right now Mallett is completing 51% of passes, dead last in the league and his team record is 1-3.

No, actually results tend to speak solely for resuts, not in how they were formulated.

But some people on this board will never understand that.

See how crummy that sounds?
 
Sure Mallet has demonstrated "growing pains as should be expected. But the surest way to get a QB maligned, especially in a complicated offensive system like this one, is to put him with receivers with greased palms and short-circuiting brains.

Here's what happened and you heard it here first . The receivers told the equipment guy they wanted to look like they jacked off an elephant so he sent them to the zoo before the game .
 
Please for the love of god stop this crap. These are professional WRs that get paid a ton of money to catch a dam ball. If our DE can stand 2 feet from the jugs machine and catch rockets with one hand all day long why can our WRs catch the dam ball from 15 feet away with Mallet throwing it. He's not the bionic man.

Fify
 
The WR's aren't helping Mallett and Mallett isn't helping the WR's. Everyone is to blame.

I thought we all agreed on that.

I see several posts in this thread where it is noted Mallett made a bad read or locked in on his receiver. When things like that is mentioned, they're not blaming the receiver.
 
How did my point flame out? Because you don't agree with facts?

No, because people were disagreeing with how the results you listed were gained. As though those numbers (51% and 1-3) were all on Mallett.

No one is arguing that he's not contributing to them, but it's pretty far from those numbers are just who he is as a QB and that's that. Problem is you just want to throw anyone who disagrees with you right in the trash. You don't want to debate/discuss, you just want to vent your opinion and anyone else is a moron. It's tired and silly. But it's what you like to do, so great, be the king of it. I know I'm wasting my time.
 
Maybe it's just apathy but I have no desire to go back and watch this offense on film after watching that abortion live. The only thing I will say is this....

This board is constantly making excuses for Mallett because of the WR's or the O-Line. Yes the WR's are professionals and they are paid to catch the ball. The drops are bad. That being said, Mallett is a professional QB and he's paid to deliver a timely and catchable ball. A lot of his passes are late and are poorly placed with no touch. It goes both ways. The WR's aren't helping Mallett and Mallett isn't helping the WR's. Everyone is to blame.

Wait, so you refuse to watch the film and confirm what you think you saw, but you are just going to go ahead and keep insisting it is how you say it is? Seems legit.

Yes some of those things happen on some throws, but not all, and not even on many. I think you hardly have the right to comment when you won't even commit to watching the plays highlighted for you. I went to a great deal of work to not only make the cutups, but also lay out time codes and give my take on each play. Now here you come with... "I'm not going to watch, but believe me, what I say is true. No need to watch."

Thanks, but since you can't be bothered to even watch the plays, I can't be bothered to take your comments seriously.
 
I love this board so much better. Obviously someone on my blocked list is commenting, but I do not see it, and it does not show their quotes in any of you others replying to them. Makes it a little confusing, but at least I do not have to read whatever nonsense they are pushing.
 
No, because people were disagreeing with how the results you listed were gained. As though those numbers (51% and 1-3) were all on Mallett.

No one is arguing that he's not contributing to them, but it's pretty far from those numbers are just who he is as a QB and that's that. Problem is you just want to throw anyone who disagrees with you right in the trash. You don't want to debate/discuss, you just want to vent your opinion and anyone else is a moron. It's tired and silly. But it's what you like to do, so great, be the king of it. I know I'm wasting my time.

Who did I trash?
 
Who did I trash?

Jeezus you're dense.

Learn how to structure a ******* sentence in English, then repost.

That's just in this discussion in the last page. If I wanted to dig through other threads you've wanted to take a dump in I'm sure I could find plenty more.

None of that is on topic. None of that is the discussion at hand. It's just you kicking your binky around when someone challenged your take.
 
That's just in this discussion in the last page. If I wanted to dig through other threads you've wanted to take a dump in I'm sure I could find plenty more.

None of that is on topic. None of that is the discussion at hand. It's just you kicking your binky around when someone challenged your take.

That's trashing people? I'm responded to inept comments directed at me. That's it.
 
Wait, so you refuse to watch the film and confirm what you think you saw, but you are just going to go ahead and keep insisting it is how you say it is? Seems legit.

Yes some of those things happen on some throws, but not all, and not even on many. I think you hardly have the right to comment when you won't even commit to watching the plays highlighted for you. I went to a great deal of work to not only make the cutups, but also lay out time codes and give my take on each play. Now here you come with... "I'm not going to watch, but believe me, what I say is true. No need to watch."

Thanks, but since you can't be bothered to even watch the plays, I can't be bothered to take your comments seriously.

Then don't. Keep going in circles blaming everyone else but him and holding out hope that he figures it out.
 
Then don't. Keep going in circles blaming everyone else but him and holding out hope that he figures it out.

Are you that dense? No one is letting Mallett skate by, we're simply saying he is only part of the problem, not the whole thing. He can improve, but his teammates aren't helping out all the time. They are all making mistakes that need to be improved on too.
 
Are you that dense? No one is letting Mallett skate by, we're simply saying he is only part of the problem, not the whole thing. He can improve, but his teammates aren't helping out all the time. They are all making mistakes that need to be improved on too.

That is just about word for word what I said in my original post that Nitro attempted to tear apart.
 
Maybe it's just apathy but I have no desire to go back and watch this offense on film after watching that abortion live. The only thing I will say is this....

This board is constantly making excuses for Mallett because of the WR's or the O-Line. Yes the WR's are professionals and they are paid to catch the ball. The drops are bad. That being said, Mallett is a professional QB and he's paid to deliver a timely and catchable ball. A lot of his passes are late and are poorly placed with no touch. It goes both ways. The WR's aren't helping Mallett and Mallett isn't helping the WR's. Everyone is to blame.

That is very incorrect and if you would take the time to review the all 22 video you would see that. But instead you are ignoring facts and think without reviewing. that is why nitro tore apart your post.
 
Then don't. Keep going in circles blaming everyone else but him and holding out hope that he figures it out.

No one is saying Mallet has played great, That he doesn't have faults. Just pointing out that there are real issues he is dealing with and to expect him to be successful this soon while dealing with those issues is unrealistic. It's to soon to make an absolute judgment on him. There is literally only a handful of people in the entire world that could of made a difference for this team this year and people here want to crucify him after 4 games. Just slow down some Kemosabe and let's see how this plays out.
 
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