Wade Has Confidence

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

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    A little more insight into Wade's thinking on the future of the defense.

    Phillips has confidence game downBy RICHARD JUSTICE
    Copyright 2011 Houston Chronicle
    June 16, 2011, 10:35PM



     
  2. NBT

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    Well CNNND, I see from some of your other posts that you don't think Phillips will have much success with the Texans D. You may be right. We sure haven't done much for the last 10 years to garner much respect. However, from around the league, and some of the comments on NFL network, that they are slowly srarting to see some light at the end of our tunnel. I can only hope they are right. i was a glass half-full person for 40 something years with the old Oilers, and I will be so again for the Texans.
     
  3. eriadoc

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    I'm just remembering statements by Kubiak and Smith coming out of the 2010 Draft and maybe I'm just interpreting it the way I want, but it sounds like Wade doesn't believe Smithiak re: their post-draft comments on Jackson.
     
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    But he was the most NFL-ready cornerback in the 2010 draft! That means he knows how to play NFL style defense or maybe it means he's really good at Madden...

    Do you think he falls down when playing Madden?
     
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    I remember Smithiak EMPHASIZING that Jackson was the most "NFL READY" CB in the draft. Had I thrown MY hat into the draft, they may have had a tougher time deciding who to take.:kitten:
     
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    I'm trying to keep some semblance of optimism. But just ask yourself, didn't you feel that same surge of excitement/optimism/hope just about this time going into the 2010 season? So many extra pieces. Talented vet players coming back. New vets. Supposedly talented rookies. And a coaching staff that finally "got it." Then...........time took care of all of that..........

    I really hope that this year changes all of that........with Wade leading the charge.
     
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    If you go back & read many of the posts on this mb the thought was the Alabama coach ran an NFL style defense and KJ would be able to translate those skills to NFL. He will need to be re-trained but that can be done. I'd rather see that done with him behind vet corners but we will see.
     
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    Maybe wade doesn't like saban.
     
  9. CloakNNNdagger

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    I do not really know that Wade's comments about Jackson's poor technique was directly aimed at Saban's "coaching abilities." But I would not be surprised at all if Wade had some bad feelings towards Saban. After all, as early as January 2010, well before he was ever fired, he had to listen to continual rumors that Saban was a likely candidate to take his position in Dallas.
     
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    Those were some pretty damning comments on Jackson. I wonder how much longer he'll be on the team.
     
  11. 76Texan

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    I hate to burst the bubble, but I need to remind all that Wade does not have a good track record with CBs.

    The most lacking position on his teams throughout the years is the CB.
    He has had success with all the other positions overall, CB remains his Achilles' heel.

    Wade is in no position to criticize Nick Saban on developing CB.
    I've already given a hint that his secondary sucked worst than the Texans' last year!
    If you like to be blunt, you will want to question him about that!

    Ask him how his secondary players, including Pro-Bowlers CBs Newman and Jenkins regressed so much last year? Did he grill them on their techniques?
    Ask him how his team went 1-7 and allowed almost 28 points per game last year (that's one point more than the Texans gave up.)
    Ask him about the 3-34 shellacking at the hand of Brett Favre in the play-offs the year before last.
    What kind of great tehcniques his secondary guys were playing when they gave up all those passes/TDs to Rice, Berrian, and Shancoe?
    :ahhaha:
     
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    Last year's Cowboys CB play was abysmal.

    Criticism of starting cornerbacks Terence Newman and Jenkins came as Dallas allowed nine opposing receivers to accumulate 100 or more yards in a single outing last season.

    Newman and Jenkins allowed 112 completions of the 181 passes thrown in their direction. Newman, while battling injuries, did manag e five interceptions -- the highest season total of his career.

    In 2009, he was selected to the Pro Bowl. But a year later, he allowed quarterbacks to produce a 113 efficiency rating when they targeted him. Jenkins was also assessed a team-high eight defensive penalties. His overall "toughness" has been a point of great criticism.

    Both of these cornerbacks were consistently virtually "run over" by opposing RBs. They were pitiful in the run game, something opposing offenses seemed to include game plan.
     
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    Ouch!
    That's damning alright!
    (Can't rep you, Doc).

    Now if Wade wants to talk about technique, one can go to the highlights of the play-offs game between the Cowboys and Vikings in 09 at nfl.com to see what great technique Newman was palying.

    He was playing off-man, standing high, and never get into a good stance as the receiver Rice smply flew by him on the outside (allowing the receiver a free out side release is not a great techqniue, Wade!)
    And how many years had Newman played in the NFL?
    (he completed his 7th year that year.)
    Up to that point, he has had 3 years under Wade.
    Last year, 2010, was his 8th year in the league.
     
  14. 76Texan

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    And while you're at it, ask Wade what great technique he taught Jacques Reeves to locate the ball! :spit:
     
  15. thunderkyss

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    It's all about perspective. Ever since the Kubiak has been here, he has wanted CBs to be a big part of the run defense. If you watched Kareem at Alabama, you'd know that was one of his strengths. He was not a shut down corner at the NFL level, though he rarely got thrown to in College.

    Smith seems to want guys who can cover. He understands the secondary helps the front 7 by providing time for them to get to the QB. The front 7 helps the secondary by not allowing too much time.

    So when Wade says, "he must not have needed technique in college... " tells me he hasn't watched Kareem in college & is going by watching the crap Kareem was taught in the NFL.
     
  16. tedr

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    Kinda funny how some people are ripping Wade for his DBs' play when they made the playoffs in 2009 (in addition to winning the division in 2007). I'm sure many on here would take the chance of horrible DB play if the Texans advanced that far this next year.

    From everything I've heard and seen, Wade knows defense. The first year he has been with teams as DC saw major improvements in the defensive performance. I would be more than happy if he had the same results here.
     
  17. CloakNNNdagger

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    At Alabama, he was considered not fast or agile, but very good at man press coverage which is what they mostly played. He was never expected by most scouts to be a shutdown corner at the NFL level, but I wonder how much of his poor show was due to the shuffle technique as opposed to the backpedaling that he showed nice results at Alabama.

    Thursday, September 10, 2009
    For Texans CBs, out with backpedal, in with shuffle


    Saban taught the shuffle to be used only in a sparing set of situations.

    I came across this article that lays out Sabans Defensive Back approach to technique. Pretty interesting. And it seems that it depends on having some decent safeties.:

    Cripes! Get back to fundamentals...
     
  18. 76Texan

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    Thanks, Doc.
    That's one of the websites I frequented.
    Lots of hardcore stuff.
    I found myself coming back to the same "article" now and again.
    It's like when I'm learning the theory, then go off and see if something matches with them in live situation (or related to or similar to) and then come back and check out the theory again.

    There are also coaches' sites and links to different playbooks/techniques/drills etc. that I always find myself engrossing in it all.

    This particular one is from the LSU days.
    All coaches evolve, or came back to some old stuffs from long ago if they think something can apply, what with all the rule changes and the evolution of offenses and defenses.
    It's like women fashion, something can go round like a circle; but there will also be something new.

    A few things I can be pretty sure that the time Jackson was at Alabama, the Tides hardly used any "pure" zone; nor did they make use of the shuffle.
    And that was through the game tape breakdowns that I did after the draft, play by play (but mostly just concentrating on Jackson.)

    At any rate, the shuffle technique described there is a whole different animal.
    It serves to take away (or make it difficult) the inside route when the WR is way out there near the side line - with the only drawback that it can give up a quick out to the flat. It's a rather small area when the receiver lines up outside the number.
    That is if I understand it correctly.

    The technique as the Texans applied, encompasses a whole lot more situations, including deeper routes and receivers lining up inside the number.
    It can put the CB in some pretty tough situations, as I see it.
     
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