Von Miller to Denver

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  1. HoustonFrog

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    This is the new rumor or basically what is being said by Gosselin, McShay, LZ and others from PFT. That moves Peterson and Dareus down. I'm really excited about this draft. I think there will be alot of maneuvering.

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    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/203430/football-headlines?r=1

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  2. El Tejano

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    This is good and bad news. Bad news that one of the top OLB will most definetly be gone by the time we pick. Good news that just maybe something crazy happens and Dareus falls to us.

    However, I believe the lying will increase over the next few hours. Perhaps Denver has heard we want Miller and they are calling our bluff about trading down with us.
     
  3. nero THE zero

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    Maybe they'll take Mario for Von Miller.

    You do that and then draft Cam Jordan at 11 and your front 7 is looking a whole hell of a lot better.
     
  4. HoustonFrog

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    My question is how Miller fits the 4-3 under Fox. Isn't he better suited for the 3-4? I've read that Kiper said he makes a great SAM backer who can get after the QB but we will see.
     
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    Wow, this could be an exciting ride tonight.
     
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    Really? A skinny OLB for one of the best DE in the league.
     
  7. HoustonFrog

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    Agree. I LOVE the draft and I am really up for this one because I think it will be anything but cookie cutter.
     
  8. Rey

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    I would not be surprised if they took him, but I think this is a smoke screen. Why would they let that info leak hours before the draft? I think they are trying to generate interest from teams.

    But like I said, I would not be shocked if they went ahead and picked him.
     
  9. Rey

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    No thanks. That's one of the few scenarios where I'd actually be pissed.

    Mario is going to be a beast in the 34. . .as long as hes motivated.
     
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    No. Just no. Mario for a guy who hasn't played a single down in the NFL?
     
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    The DEs are the edge-rushers in the 4-3 and Miller is just too small to play DE in the NFL, that's why everyone assumes that Miller goes to a 3-4 where the edge-rushers are the OLBs. I've got to think that Denver (if they draft Miller), is gonna run a lot of stuff from the a 3-4 scheme.
     
  12. nero THE zero

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    Yes.

    I mean, when you oversimplify it like you have, it's not favorable to us. But when you consider factors like Mario not liking the 3-4 switch, Mario's injury history, Mario's lackadaisical play at times, and having to re-sign Mario to a long-term, high money deal after next season, your perspective should change a bit.

    Ask yourself this, assuming Miller ends up in a 3-4, who has more sacks over the next 5 years and who makes more money? There's a better than good chance that the answers to those questions are Miller and Mario respectively. If that's the case, such a trade would favor us.
     
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    I've heard similar speculation about him playing in a 4-3, but that just doesn't make sense to me. When A&M played a 4-3, did he play end or LB?

    He seems to be too small to play end in the NFL, especially if you have Dumervil playing on the other side, and playing him at SAM doesn't fully utilize his strengths.
     
  14. disaacks3

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    Best DE in a 4-3. Mario is a bigger unknown as a 3-4 DE Miller is as a 3-4 OLB.

    Yep.

    This isn't a knock on Mario, just objective reality. If the Texans were staying 4-3 they'd have to pry him from my cold, dead fingers.
     
  15. VTexan

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    Call me crazy, but I believe Mario will have a better career at the 3-4 DE. He doesn't have any moves just a crazy strong bull rush which I believe is perfect for the 3-4 DE for getting penetration and push so the OLB's can find the holes and get pressure.
     
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    This doesn't make sense. Denver has a former first round pick in Robert Ayers who is a better fit in their 4-3 than he was in the 3-4 scheme and Elvis Dummervil plays the DE position really well so why draft Miller?

    An interior linemen like Marcel Dareus or Nick Fairley would make much more sense.
     
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    Agreed. I dont understand Denver taking Von.
     
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    Miller played end when A&M was in a 43 but they were in a 34 almost exclusively his last two years and he always played standing up.

    I don't project Miller to any position in a 43 defense. He is strictly a 34 rush backer only. Him going to Denver makes no sense at all.
     
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    Denver wants him because he can be an edge rushing DE or drop back in coverage in a 4 man front. If he does become a DE, he may have to add some bulk, but I think Von can still do well in a 43.

    That said, I agree his best fit is a 34 defense.
     
  20. Dutchrudder

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    You also have to consider that the Broncos have Dumerville, who will likely be the SAM in their 4-3 defense. I don't know where else they would have Von play. In the future, he could bulk up and be a DE, but at 240 he will be undersized for that position.
     

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