jerek said:
I hope that the other four pages of my statements are the "something else" you are looking for. As well, take a moment to read my qualifying statement regarding the intangibles: I said, I feel. Not, I know, he is, or he has, but I feel that he has. This is because intangibles are not statistically provable (sp?) and are in almost every sense a matter of perception. It simply depends on who is doing the perceiving, and as I am sure you can agree, it is one versus another. I feel that DC has not been given a fair shake or evaluation and that VY is being touted as the entirety of the answer when it is just not so. The end.
this is a lot like the last anti vince topic you posted. You said Vince has little to no upside. now you say he doesnt have the intangibles "you" look for in a NFL qb.
when i think of intangibles, i think of skills that just cant be taught, you either have them or you dont.
when I think about what i want from a qb, i think of these:
poise
confidence
ability under pressure
leadership (both verbally and by example)
a desire to always be better
when looking at upside, you look at a few things.
1. Does their decision making have much room for improvement?
2. Can they improve on their accuracy on all routes?
the reason Young would have more upside than a guy like Leinart, is that you know Leinart is near the top of his game, he is a very polished pocket passer, and his accuracy doesnt have much room for improvement. He isnt prone to many mistakes, so what you see now is most likely what you're going to get. His arm isnt very strong, so he relies on his great accuracy.
Vince is still raw, but has progressed amazingly the past year, from 12td 11int last year to 24td 8int this year, with a higher completiong %. now if he can get these numbers as a still raw passer, imagine what he would do with refined passing skills.... and thats just passing, not mentioning his amazing running ability.
Vince WILL be able to run on NFL defenses, he is the size of a linebacker but faster than any of them and has just amazing ability to break contain and tackles.