Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by HoustonFrog, Nov 9, 2007.
Wow, the Vikes are quite a classy team
Dang. How can anyone sit down with a guy and say "I realize that your Grandmother just died, but if you go to her funeral, I am docking your pay." That's just cold.
He missed 9 days of practice.
Its not like he was gone for just the one day.
yeah, he missed quite a lot of time. thems the rules folks.
Rules are made to be broken.
It's a sad day when a game is supposed to be held in higher regard than family.
Honestly, he probably isn't on their good side to begin with. I doubt if AD left for awhile, they would fine him.
Contracts are contracts. I don't think any less of the Vikings about this. Same situation if happened to me, I wouldn't hold against anyone if they did it to me.
Life is about choices and it isn't always about money. Furthermore, you shouldn't expect someone to foot the bill if they aren't required.
I think it is great that this guy made a choice that didn't involve money and stuck to it and doesn't appear to be complaining about it all.
My hat is if off to Troy Williamson, do you what you think is right and forget about the money.
DB how much time can you miss from work and still get paid?
When my father died I was allowd one day, two if the funeral was out of town. My sister and I had to make all the calls and all the arrangements. I was 20 years old at the time and in school and working full time. I understand greiving over a loved one and needing time but work will not wait and pay you for not doing your job. The only reason this is a story is because it is professional sports and it is suppose to be only a game.
How much time does the person in accounting of the Minnesota Vikings get? I am sure it is not a full week with pay.
i got a week when my dad died. and they called me several times during that week to know when i was coming in.
shit happens in life. your job is part of it.
I'm basically self-employed, so no work, no food on the table.
But I'm not a professional football player, which is an ENTERTAINMENT medium first and foremost. It's apples and oranges to compare what these guys do and make to me working paycheck to paycheck.
The Vikings can do whatever they want to do. I have no desire to change the rules. But I don't have to agree with the policy, and voice my opinion accordingly.
Sports are entertainment for us. It's strictly business for the players, coaches, and owners.
If I'm him I'm doing three things:
1. Appealing the forfeiture
2. Telling my agent to get me on a WINNING football team.
3. Playing like they have my mamma tied up in a basement if that team ever faces the Vikings. The men in purple would be dead to me.
Your family is more important that your job period. I don't care HOW you try to rationalize it you had a family BEFORE you had a job and you'll have one LONG afterwards. I've never heard occasion where a father called in his son and said:
"Son close the door."
"What is it dad?"
"Well son. Your mother and I have been going over your last few report cards and your last few reports and well...they didn't look good."
"Sorry dad I'll try harder. I'll put in more time at the..."
"Son. I'm sorry. This just isn't working out. I mean you've been a valuable asset to the organization but...we're going to have to let you go."
"Let me go?"
"Son I'm sorry but you're just not cutting the mustard around here. Clean out your desk by the end of the day. Your older sister will escort you out."
I work for a school district. If MY mother passed away I would tell them point blank "My mom passed away. I have to make some arragements and I'll be out for a while trying to get myself together." If they fire me #uck em. I can find another job. You can have a thousand jobs in your life but you're only given ONE family, and I've never heard of a family being either outsourced or laid off.
I agree. This is horrendoust PR for the Vikings, and they might reverse their decision because of that, but rules are rules. And its a business for the players & coachs and certainly the owners and their financial backers who have hundreds of millions of dollars invested in their franchises.
And I suspect this also has a lot to do with the players contribution to the team, what his compensation is, and his personal relationship with management (the coaching staff in his case). What, you didn't know that corporations don't treat all employees the same ? Where have you been ?
Vikings F.O. = lame
I got a week with pay when my dad passed away. I also got a week with pay when my daughter was born. The Vikings didn't need Williamson anyway, just hand the ball off to All Day.
He must be the guy that consistantly holds up the
gang-bang line during the Vikings' annual sex party boat trip.
Still, that's just wrong.
It's not just his granmother dying. I believe his brother was in accident and is still in a coma. I heard that he doesn't have a father and was pretty much the father figure of all his brothers and sisters. I understand that work is work but in the big picture this hurts the Vikings more than it helps them. If the Texans did this to Shaub, Greenwwod, or Turk, etc. I would frown upon it. They could have handled it a better way. Now imagine future Free agents might take this into consideration.
Not only that, but he was raised by his grandmother, so it is like his mother dying.
Epic and very true post man.
Rep'd to hell
Had he not missed the actual GAME DAY, he might not have lost a game check. I'm not sure if the CBA allows the Vikes any real choice in this one.
This isn't like a day off for the rest of us working stiffs. Logically, there are 16 "can't miss" days for these guys. They couldn't have the funeral any other day of the week? I applaud him for doing what he felt he owed her, but mandatory=mandatory for certain days.
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