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You are a Kool Aid drinker no doubt TK but you are not an uber fan dim wit. You have your position and state it respectfully. I could not disagree with you more but you add value.Was that really called for??
Agreed. I must have missed that on first read. We need to stop with the insults around here. We all just need to take a deep breath and exhale. The season of 6-10 is over. Let's just see what happens.Was that really called for??
Forget Vinny. The point I was trying to imprint... Just the fact that Herv made a "maybe goodbye thread" tells me he's probably not going anywhere. Ultimately I believe he's a frustrated "uber fan" like most of us.First of all none of us really know what the deal is with Vinny. I think he had other issues than him just not liking the direction of the team.
The Texans have a clueless owner who is threatening to bring back an utterly clueless coach who is over his head. As I mentioned in another thread Kubiak has more than once said "I don't know" when asked what he was going to do to address problems. The guy sounds defeated when he talks and that trickles down to the entire team.
Either McNair isn't passionate about winning or he is just plain stupid when it comes to running a NFL franchise. I personally don't blame anyone for bailing if they do.
As for the "Texans haters orgy", it sounds like the only other option is getting bent over by Bob and his terrible product *.
*Disclaimer: The above post is contingent on McNair not firing Kubiak.
Appreciate it. But what the board was before and now is different to me. I'm the enemy to some...a Cowboy fan in Houston trying to support the Texans. In reality I learned this year that I really would LOVE to be behind this team as a hometown team....I've been here almost 17 years...a secondary team. But I can't It isn't that I'm waiting to bandwagon...I've been here 5 years. I'm waiting for a sign that the team has a clue. From Carr to coaching it is a constant mess that is ACCEPTED because football is back. I get ragged on about Jerry but I know his stance. I know he wants to win badly despite his sometimes horrible decisions. I've also followed them for 35 years.
I care more than I should, even after leaving this board for most of the season.
By the way, once Herv spoke his true words I knew people would come anyways
LOL. See? This is why I stick around.Stay together... for the kids
Yup, I was here (on the previous board) before the Texans played a down. And so was Herv, Vinny, and a host of others. And to have people like Docbar call out someone like Herv just because he is tired of being screwed over by a clueless clown like McNair infuriates me.We just need to take it back and not tolerate the bullying and name calling anymore. The old guard is what made this board great. We can do it again.
I think the rep thing should be gone from the board completely .... JMOSo I get neg rep for disagreeing with you
Hating Gary because he is not the right coach? My, the personal rages some of you people go on are flat out absured.Not interested in reading the thread first, I'm just posting here because I feel like being very negative.
I'm ****ing pissed about this win. I thought I would be indifferent but now I'm just ****ing annoyed. **** you, Kubiak. Seriously, the end of the season heroics just pisses me off more than anything. You deserved to lose the game but luckily you have players that don't suck as much as you do.
I'm completely fed up with this stupid ****ing coach and his terrible decisions. The personnel decisions are the worst of all. Hey what do you know, we have players that have sat on our roster all year that should have been starters to begin with. ****ing go figure.
I've never said I hated Kubiak, only that I want him no less than 1000 miles away from the Texans organization. But if the rumors are true and I have to put up with his incompetent ass for another year I'm pretty sure I'm going to go from thinking he is a shitty coach to just plain hating the guy. I don't want to look at him and I don't want to hear anything he says. Just ****ing go away.
I know most here can't stand them and I don't expect them too but I really want to explain to people that I've tried to make this secondary relationship work and this year was frustrating. I stayed away from here, traveled, didn't watch football...Cowboys and Texans sucked. I figured both team were automatically making moves. I know one did and we will see how far it goes. I really just want to see the Texans make one unsafe move...go for broke and let it ride. Even if it fails I'd be on board to and say.."they tried."Lord knows I can't stand the Cowboys or Jerry Jones. However, I have to admit he is not afraid to make a change when it is needed. This organization needs a good dose of Jerry Jones right now. At least he knows poor performance when he sees it.
I see your point but I come here to do more than talk football. We just need to restore the decorum around here. Yes. More and more of the old posters are leaving one by one and maybe this board will deteriorate until it becomes like the "official board". Until that happens, I will fight for this one.Yup, I was here (on the previous board) before the Texans played a down. And so was Herv, Vinny, and a host of others. And to have people like Docbar call out someone like Herv just because he is tired of being screwed over by a clueless clown like McNair infuriates me.
You are right. The old guard that knows football and doesn't just bend over and take it, can take it back. The bigger question is why would we? We are checking out. The people that don't care about winning will be the only ones left. All they want to do is go put on some foolish hat with horns or some facepaint and try to get on TV. They are like the idiots on the first couple of weeks of American Idol. And McNair gladly counts on them to fill his coffers. Until THAT changes, he won't change. Hell, why would he? PT Barnum and Bob McNair both count on a sucker being born every minute.
Luckily I don't respond every time you say something absurd, because the board would get cluttered by that pretty quickly.Hating Gary because he is not the right coach? My, the personal rages some of you people go on are flat out absured.
Burn!!!Luckily I don't respond every time you say something absurd, because the board would get cluttered by that pretty quickly.
That said, I understand it is kind of silly to hate the guy, but this is the negative thread so, honestly, what do you expect in here? Just leave me to my absurdities and I'll leave you to yours.
Whatever. I don't reply to foolishness.Luckily I don't respond every time you say something absurd, because the board would get cluttered by that pretty quickly.
That said, I understand it is kind of silly to hate the guy, but this is the negative thread so, honestly, what do you expect in here? Just leave me to my absurdities and I'll leave you to yours.
I would love to have Coughlin. His attitude is hardcore and I think thats what we could use around here.I now live in New York and it is amazing how many Giants fans are calling for Coughlin's head tonight - the guy whose team just finished 10-6 - because the team missed the playoffs again.
Knee-jerk and emotional, you bet. But the Giants' ownership knows what is expected and constantly feels the pressure to perform and appease their supporters. With our team, it is all about Toro and pep rallies rather than win at all costs - that is why McNair will keep Kubiak.
Nope - Coughlin is staying put; however, it amazes me that there was so much conjecture about whether he would be allowed to stay and he stood at 10-6 - while in Houston it is now a given that a guy at 6-10 will be back and the media blindly accepts it.I would love to have Coughlin. His attitude is hardcore and I think thats what we could use around here.
I would be very happy if the stars aligned, Coughlin gets fired, Coughlin gets hired. Boom.
I would rep you for shame spiralling off the forums if it made sense to do so. Alas.I know you didn't. Herv. Like I said before, I have alot of respect for you. Or had until this thread.
I'm totally cool with bitching and griping about the team, but saying you're gonna completely quit on them gets me riled up. I PMed you my opinion, also.
I'm done with this ****. I'm going to pull for my Texans 100% every week, but I won't be back in here. I see a bunch of football idiots, myself included, posting a lot of pure bullshit punctuated by a few posts by people who really know what they're talking about. This has turned into something other than a reasonable place to posts thoughts about our team. I wholly include my posts in this. Have a nice life and GO TEXANS!!!!!!!
Dude, tell me about it. It's amazing how personal people take this. Ive been a Houston football fan since the "Love ya Blue" days. I remember my dad taking us to see the Oilers play the bengals specifically. Ive been rooting for a losing team my whole life, its not gonna stop here unless we start winning.I heard Coughlin will be staying in NY
I hope that the NFL doesn't go to 18 weeks, I couldn't imagine 2 more weeks, the board would explode
Not to mention he just won a Super Bowl for them three years ago. Ku iak hasn't even made the playoffs. Have no idea why people are even thinking about keeping Kubiak another year.Nope - Coughlin is staying put; however, it amazes me that there was so much conjecture about whether he would be allowed to stay and he stood at 10-6 - while in Houston it is now a given that a guy at 6-10 will be back and the media blindly accepts it.
And some make it personal and shoot the messenger instead of debating the message.Some take this way to personally.
Im hoping Kubiak is left out of the decision making and he's chewing his finger nails waiting in the hallway. That would be a start.Others have stated this, but I will pass it along....
ESPN's Adam Shefter reporting that Kubiak will be back in 2011.
However, perhaps he is only reporting THAT because the next line that scrolled across the bottom of the screen stated he has two years left on the contract. Meaning maybe Schefter is speculating on it.
I would hope that McNair and Rick Smith, and whatever other Illuminati members help run the Texans, are sitting down right this very minute...hashing out what the official decision will be.
I am hoping that it wasn't a done deal even before today's result. I am hoping that they are doing whatever semblance of "due diligence" that they can do, and that they are genuinely discussing all options.
The Giants owner, Mara, was very quick to say that Coughlin is back and that he whole-heartedly believes in Coughlin. Ditto on Minny and Dallas--They each have already said that they have their guy at HC (Frazier and Garrett, respectively).
Nothing OFFICIAL on McNair & Kubiak status.
So, there is still some shred of hope left. Hope that not hearing anything, right after the Jags game concluded, means that a stronger statement is in the works for tomorrow.
The best bet is that Kubiak stays and Bush is gone, with David Gibbs hopefully gone too. That's the most conservative wager to make right now.
But axing Kubiak is still a possibility.
As a member of the Illuminati, let me assure you, we in no way are involved in the decision making of the Texans Front office. We're more concerned with one world government issues, than a one coach for lifeI would hope that McNair and Rick Smith, and whatever other Illuminati members help run the Texans, are sitting down right this very minute...hashing out what the official decision will be.
I did not attack Herv.And some make it personal and shoot the messenger instead of debating the message.
I know what you mean, I was forced to not take it all personally after the end of last season. Stress was a factor in putting me in the hospital and I've had to dial it back somewhat. I've had to avoid getting too high OR too low in order to maintain sanity. This season started with so much promise, but at least I could see the "writing on the wall" from Game 1 in the horrendous Defense.I disagree with that. I'm a huge fan and I've let the Texan's season run my life for a few years. I stopped that this year. That doesn't mean I care less, just that I've matured somewhat as a person. What kind of loser lives so vicariously through a pro sports team that a win or loss affects their life? That's just sad and I've been just sad for years and years. I don't accept mediocrity. I'm not happy with losing. I'm also not going to pull for a team other than my hometown team.
that was me too, even when we were 4-2 and the defense was so bad, I accepted the fact that if we got to the playoffs it would have been a nightmare where most of the elite QB's are there liking their chops against our secondaryI know what you mean, I was forced to not take it all personally after the end of last season. Stress was a factor in putting me in the hospital and I've had to dial it back somewhat. I've had to avoid getting too high OR too low in order to maintain sanity. This season started with so much promise, but at least I could see the "writing on the wall" from Game 1 in the horrendous Defense.
I'm sticking around for the same reason I always have....the eventual joy will help offeset this continual suffering. Here's to next year and hoping there's a season to complain about.
I'm not saying you did and did not intend to imply that. I was trying to make my comment an extension of yours. Sorry for the confusion.I did not attack Herv.
Gotcha.I'm not saying you did and did not intend to imply that. I was trying to make my comment an extension of yours. Sorry for the confusion.
No, but you joined in on the thread without adding anything other than poking fun at the thread and those who are participating in it. So it's sort of like saying "Gee, that's dumb that you are doing that..." when you stopped in to participate. Yet you really didn't participate (in all actuality). You just threw a stone and kept walking as if you've no part in the festivities.I did not attack Herv.
I just don't read into something that at the end of the day does not really matter. A game not life or death.No, but you joined in on the thread without adding anything other than poking fun at the thread and those who are participating in it. So it's sort of like saying "Gee, that's dumb that you are doing that..." when you stopped in to participate. Yet you really didn't participate (in all actuality). You just threw a stone and kept walking as if you've no part in the festivities.
This is why these sorts of threads are so complicated. You post in it, and you're in it. Because others will reply to your posts, and even if you think you're not a part of it...you are, to some degree.
Herv tried to set up an "angry fans only" thread, which is never going to remain functioning as the exclusive club it was intended to be. So there's flaw #1. Add in the so-called Drive-By posters, and it's a recipe for a cat fight.
Part of me thinks that "Goodbye" threads should be taken down by moderators immediately. But, it's a way of a person venting. So it's complicated still.
Hey, here's some good news: That Arian Foster kid looks like the real deal. And we have a competent backup RB in Derrick Ward. And we might have another good RB in Tate if he returns to form. Three RBs. Not bad, considering the recent past and the distant past.
Just gotta' find a way to overcome our head coach. He's swell, but...well...you know.
:kubepalm:
Have you forgotten 9-7? No team has ever had as many obstacles to overcome, and yet Kubes delivered a winning season. There are lots of Super Bowl teams, but only one "Best 9-7 Team Ever".Not to mention he just won a Super Bowl for them three years ago. Ku iak hasn't even made the playoffs. Have no idea why people are even thinking about keeping Kubiak another year.
See, I think it's different. You either love a team, or you don't. Quincy Carter was your starting QB in 2006.... did you support that team? did you stop buying Dallas gear? They let him go, picked up Drew Bledsoe... how long has the offensive line been a "problem"?But I can't It isn't that I'm waiting to bandwagon...I've been here 5 years. I'm waiting for a sign that the team has a clue. From Carr to coaching it is a constant mess that is ACCEPTED because football is back. I get ragged on about Jerry but I know his stance. I know he wants to win badly despite his sometimes horrible decisions. I've also followed them for 35 years.
yeah I was wondering about how effective for a section on here .. a version of the NSZ but have a BSZ (blow off steam zone)No, but you joined in on the thread without adding anything other than poking fun at the thread and those who are participating in it. So it's sort of like saying "Gee, that's dumb that you are doing that..." when you stopped in to participate. Yet you really didn't participate (in all actuality). You just threw a stone and kept walking as if you've no part in the festivities.
This is why these sorts of threads are so complicated. You post in it, and you're in it. Because others will reply to your posts, and even if you think you're not a part of it...you are, to some degree.
Herv tried to set up an "angry fans only" thread, which is never going to remain functioning as the exclusive club it was intended to be. So there's flaw #1. Add in the so-called Drive-By posters, and it's a recipe for a cat fight.
Part of me thinks that "Goodbye" threads should be taken down by moderators immediately. But, it's a way of a person venting. So it's complicated still.
Hey, here's some good news: That Arian Foster kid looks like the real deal. And we have a competent backup RB in Derrick Ward. And we might have another good RB in Tate if he returns to form. Three RBs. Not bad, considering the recent past and the distant past.
Just gotta' find a way to overcome our head coach. He's swell, but...well...you know.
:kubepalm:
Herv, I've usually enjoed and respected your posts. After this one, I say **** you. Go be a cowgirls fan. I've been a Houston fan my entire life. I missed maybe 5 home games for the Oilers from '76-85. I've suffered as much as any fan of Houston football ever has. The only thing that has ever made me think of not being a Houston fan is a work stoppage for the '11 season. They do that, then I forget the NFL.
If you want to check out as a Houston fan, take off. The bandwagon will be large when they are winning and you want to come back.
My weeks, during football season, have been ruled by how the Houston team does. This year, I made a commitment that it wouldn't. I never missed a game. Even when I was in China, Bangladesh or Venezuela. I stayed up and watched my team on the internet win or lose. I just didn't let it ruin my whole life when they lost. You don't have a damned thing more wrapped up in this team than the rest of us. I say good riddance and don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out.
Don't walk away...run.
That's actually a good idea, but then the normal TexansTalk section would be empty.yeah I was wondering about how effective for a section on here .. a version of the NSZ but have a BSZ (blow off steam zone)
See, I think it's different. You either love a team, or you don't. Quincy Carter was your starting QB in 2006.... did you support that team? did you stop buying Dallas gear? They let him go, picked up Drew Bledsoe... how long has the offensive line been a "problem"?
Dave Campo, Chan Gailey....... still a Cowboy fan? Wade Phillips?
I look at all the crap Al Davis does..... wonder how there are still Raider fans dressed in full Raiders Garb for every game.
I think guys like Kullumanati has the right approach. He comes here every year, says, "I know my team sucks this year... " but then goes on watching & enjoying football, the camaraderie shared amongst fans.... good times, bad times.... as long as we're "together" what difference does it make?
Now you can sit there and tell me it's Jerrah's burning desire to win that got him 3 rings..... but the way he's run that organization after Jimmy left, I'll chalk it up to blind pigs, acorns, & those sort of things.
We don't have a 35 year history. One winning season in it's 9 year history isn't very promising.
But if you made it through the 2-14 season, this ain't nothing. I can understand thinking we're wasting a talented team if Kubiak comes back..... league's leading rusher, league's best receiver, a top QB in the league, one of the more domnant DE, two pro-bowl LBs.....
Seriously, there's plenty to be upset about. But when we're talking about being a fan, it's about do you love the team or not, not whether you agree with every decision Jerry Jones makes or not..... because chances are you probably don't.