Vernand Morency

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  1. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    By JOHN MCCLAIN
    Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle
    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3161345
     
  2. Wolf

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    I stated on another thread.. I know we need lineman, but I like this pick just as I liked the pick of Ragone a few years ago.

    With Backups like this.. we don't have to change our offensive philosophy (and in reality Palmer DOES like to go deep,just OL woes keeps us "vanilla")
     
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    I'd rather have the OL to block for Carr than have to bring in ANOTHER RB in hopes of more playaction.

    Sounds like an excuse as to why we picked him up more than a good reason for bringing him in.

    A 25 yr old rookie at RB? I mean any other position I'd be ok with but RB's have a 3-4 year shelf life coming in at 21.

    I'd rather us drafted the G out of UVA.
     
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    Vinny.. that picture is cool.. reminds me of the AJ discussions that went on about all the pictures of him NOT catching the ball and we were wondering if he was going to be a stud or not..

    Oh how the times have changed
    :rolleyes:
     
  5. Vinny

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    It does no good to take a OL if you don't think he can beat out your other OL's.
    Age at RB isn't even an issue like it is at most other positions. RB's come in to the NFL ready to play and have much less of a learning curve than the other positions. Morency is not going to need a year or two to figure out his position at the next level as say a WR or Lineman usually have to do.
    Most teams passed on him because he is lazy and has a questionable work ethic. He fell out of the first round much like Nat Dorsey did last year. Dorsey didn't do much to impress last year in the NFL.
     
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    I got no problem with taking a depth RB. I DO have a problem with that depth RB being older than 2 of the other 3 backs on the squad. Fason still on the board. Barber still on the board. All younger and "better" as projected by a lot of analysts.
     
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    Who's that #10 throwing the ball in the back ground? I thought #10 was Nick Narcisse a WR? Or is that him but he's just standing there?

    Awesome pic BTW Vinny! :thumbup
     
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    elton brown made a lot of questionable decisions in the months leading up to the draft...he left the senior bowl early for a "personal reason"...he passed on the combine if i remember correctly...only doing a couple of drills before leaving...and then on his pro day ran a slow 5.5ish 40...to make up for that he didn't impress many scouts by doing i believe 23reps on the bench...adam snyder was a way better prospect and didn't get half the attention brown did...as for morency as someone who has seen him play i can tell you that a lot of big XII people thought he was the better back at OSU when they had tatum bell...personally i thought both were excellent backs and we will see how good Bell is gonna be at denver this year...i know they took clarett but he's not their starter yet...bell is...morency will get his shot here...and if DD goes down you will see our new starter in morency for the next couple of years
     
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    This is a make or break season for Domanick Davis. What he does this year will determine how the Texans front office handles him and his agent when contract talks come up in the future. Had we not taken Morency, it pretty much would have looked like a slam-dunk for DD to get whatever he wants. After all, who else is there to turn to? Wells? Hollings?

    The Lions and Chargers game last year really shook DD up. It wasn't until late in the season that he was able to get his confidence back--back to the point where he could protect the ball AND make his cuts/jukes like he always has. Up until those last few games, DD was solely focusing on protecting the bal in a crowd. You could even see the other teams knifing at the ball because they knew he had been careless earlier in the season. I know defensive players all around the league grab at the ball, but it was especially apparent when they tried to tackle DD.

    The shaky season last year, coupled with the fact that he's a year older and a year wiser, has probably got the Texans scared that at some point DD will ask for big money. And the Texans might not be sure about giving it to him even if he has a great year this coming season.

    Thus, in my opinion, the Texans took Morency as better-than-average insurance against the possibilities that are out there: Namely, the possibility that DD will ask for big money. With more backs to choose from, the Texans give themselves more room to negotiate with DD when that time comes. Now it doesn't like so easy for DD and his agent to leverage against the front office since we took a pretty decent back this draft.

    And if the rumor about us and Shaun Alexander was true (negotiations during the draft) it only points a bigger finger toward that direction, as well. If we're going to shell out big bucks to a RB...I'd rather have Alexander or someone on his level than DD. I'm a big DD fan, but I look at the bigger picture when it comes down to it.

    I think Morency will be 2nd on the depth chart by mid-season. Or, starting if DD struggles or has injury problems.
     
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    #10 in the background is Chance Mock,QB,Texas. He was an undrafted free agent this year and we brought him in for a tryout.
     
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    #10 is Chance Mock.

    My biggest worry with Morency isnt whether or not he is good.. we will find that out here eventually.. my worry is that if he IS good.. and Davis stays healthy.. is Morency going to be our Travis Henry?

    How long before he starts asking to be traded because he isnt getting enough playing time? He seems to have that kind of attitude to me.
     
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    No, that would be Dom Davis. If Morency is all that, Davis will get a high tender since he is in his option year next year and if someone wants to give us a 1st round pick for him we make out like bandits.
    Why do you say that? Why make up imaginary conflicts?
     
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    Dont you mean, is Morency going to be our Willis McGahee?
     
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    And this would be a bad thing?

    I hope he is good.. I also hope that Ragone is good.. that is nothing but good news to me..Why? The guys are young and they don't have HUGE contracts..They have trade value.. We shouldn't be pulling a sharper and Glenn were we have to release them because noone wants to trade for them..due to salary ...

    I would welcome any extra pics at this moment,because I have the feeling Coleman Walker and Payne will be the next Sharper and Glenn (in the next 2 years)..(i.e too much salary to get a trade for)
     
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    Vinny :)... I know we are all shell shocked from the amount of negative posts on this board lately.. but no reason to jump down MY throat.

    Im not making up imaginary conflicts. I didnt say "this is going to happen" I said "im worried this could eventually happen".

    Morency has said many times now that he wants the starting job and intends to take it. It is good that he is fired up and ready to play, but we HAVE a starter... a quality starter. And if Davis stays healthy, Morency will most likely only get a limited number of carries. With this attitude of "im going to take the starting spot".. if he feels he is as good as Davis (which he does) and if he feels that he has shown that he is as good as Davis in practice.. then it seems to me that he could start getting perturbed if he isnt getting as much playing time as Davis. Basicly.. he doesnt seem to have much respect for the fact that Davis is our starter, and he is a rookie.


    Its good to have depth at RB, but I worry that Morency has the kind of attitude that is going to make him want to start or be traded.


    Geez :).. you would think I said something terrible. I think the problem is that I see Davis penciled in as our starter, and Morency as depth unless he proves otherwise. If he does prove otherwise, I dont see us trading Davis unless forced to. While you are looking at Davis as a potential first rounder if Morency is as good as we would like him to be.
     
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    Responding to your post is not 'jumping down your throat'. We won't trade Dom, he is a RFA next year.
     
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    :listening

    Ok

    Forget I said anything then.
     
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    Ok, show me where you see he has a poor attitude then. Otherwise you are making up something out of thin air.
     
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    well if we have two good backs this season, why not use a rb by committee strategy. we would always have a fresh back and this would also help keep davis healthy.
     
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    Didnt say he had a poor attitude :).. as a matter of fact, i said
    I just wonder if he doesnt take the starting spot from Davis, is it going to become an issue with him.. because of comments like this:


    I saw him say similar stuff a couple times.. but id have to go hunt it down.

    Like I said, its good that he is confident, but he doesnt show all that much respect for the fact that he is a Rookie and we have a starter.


    (We sure did pick up a lot of Miami swagger this offseason didnt we)
     

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