USATODAY says Montana NFLs best in last 25 years

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  1. nunusguy

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    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-top-25-series.htm
    Montana produced some of the most memorable plays in NFL playoff history. In the 1981 NFC title game, he lifted the 49ers to their first Super Bowl by leading a legendary 89-yard, fourth-quarter drive that ended in a 6-yard high, floating touchdown pass to Dwight Clark — a play that became known simply as "The Catch." It gave San Francisco a 28-27 defeat of Dallas. Seven years later, Montana engineered a 92-yard drive against the Bengals in Super Bowl XXIII that ended with his 10-yard strike to John Taylor in the end zone with 34 seconds left that beat Cincinnati 20-16.
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    "The Catch" may be the most overrated football play I've ever seen, and IMO no way Montana was better than Elway, who not only had a better arm and was a better runner than Montana, but was also just as great in the clutch.
    Montana's biggest asset was playing in the very high profile SF Bay Area vs the relative hinterlands of the rocky mountain front range where Elway spent his whole career.
     
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    At the end of the day, Joe owns scoreboard... end of discussion.
     
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    Well, DUH...this is Montana we're talking about. Of course he's the best in the last 25 years! Nobody else compares. NOBODY.

    Can you tell I'm a Montana fan?
     
  4. GoPats

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    Elway actually stunk it up at times in big games early in his career. His first two SB appearances weren't exactly memorable. Don't get me wrong, I was a big fan of the guy, but he wasn't the clutch performer early on that he was later in his career.

    Montana deservedly is regarded as the best "big game" QB in history. Who'd you rather have with the game on the line? I can't think of anyone, including a guy playing in Pats' blue right now.
     
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    Call me crazy but I'll still take Elway....Joe was great and would be #2 on my list, but he played with a guy by the name of Jerry Rice for the majority of his career....Elway ended up being a clutch performer also..... combine that with his running ability and he gets the edge in my book.

    agreed.
     
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    I'm sorry, but Brady isn't a top 10 player of all time........he just isn't....his "big game" heroics are overrated and he's not on the level of Favre on Marino.

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    And where's the love for Chris Carter?????..........Chris will always be my favorite receiver to play the game and if not for playing the same era with Jerry (who was better) he'd get a lot more recognition.

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    I just had to come back and talk about Brady some more....seriously he has never had a game winning drive in a big game that I can think of....Vinaterri had to bang in 2 long FGs against the Rams and Panthers, but somehow Tom got all the credit......the guy has benefitted from playing with stacked talent on both ends of the ball (especially the defensive end) and a coach who is a master mind when it comes to exploiting teams weaknesses.....Tom Brady wouldn't even make my top 25 of this era.

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    Earl Cambell > Tom Brady
     
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    The most common defintion of a "big game" of course is the SB, and that's usually how most people rate Montana as better: he was on the winning team
    4 times vs. Elways 2 games. Give Elway the teams Monatana played with and
    Montana Elway's teammates and I'd suspect the score would have been 5 or 6 to 1 or maybe 0 in favor of Elway. Can you imagine Elway with Jerry Rice as his receiver, who of course is the very player that USAToday ranked #2 in the last 25 years ? Elway never played with that kind of talent.
    Elway made throws, runs, plays by himself that Montana could only dream about and was clearly a vastly more talented football player.
     
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    CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH!!!

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    I'm a big Emmitt fan, but similar to Montana he always had great talent around him...............Barry Sanders > Emmit.........and Barry > Brady x 1,000,000

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    They forgot a man by the name of Tim Brown also.
     


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    Unfortunately I was able to witness Elway beating the Oilers, first hand at Mile High in 91 and 92.
     
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    Pre back surgery Montana for sure. If you put Montana's best versus Steve Young's best I would take Young, IMO. Close though.
     
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    Yeah screw Elway.
     
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    yep. :cowboy1:

    FOUR Super Bowls and not even one INT?!

    (By comparison, Elway threw 8 INTs in five Super Bowl appearances. And I'm not doggin' Elway, as he's in my top 5 greatest QBs list.)
     
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    Both great QBs...I'd take either to run my offense. I wouldn't cry about not getting one over the other...simple as that.
     
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    cool joe > elway
     
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    Was it

    Chiefs vs Broncos on a monday night game where the score kept going back and forth and each had a lead changing score late in the 4th quarter?
     
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    I'll have to take Montana for the sole reason that he is the last great QB that will come out of Notre Dame.
     
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    not dogging Montana, but yes "The Catch" is the most overrated thing I have seen ... Danny white drove them down (and fumbled dang it)and drew Person , if a step faster would have been gone for a TD and Dallas wins... heck next season after '81 they didn't even make the playoffs.

    anyway I am not dogging the forty niners, they had great teams in the '80's , I am dogging "The Catch" and the only reason is media makes it seem like it was the last play of the game..

    Want to talk about "The Catch" (well not to John Madden) ..franco harris and his "catch"
     
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    agreed
     
  19. GoPats

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    I don't know man, Elway played on some pretty damn good Denver teams. It wasn't until they got TD and had some balance that they finally won "the big one," but it's not like Elway's wideouts were scrap-pile rejects.

    I agree that PHYSICALLY - in terms of mobility, arm strength, athleticism, etc - Elway was superior to Montana. And BOTH guys are top five all-time, IMO. But personally I'd just have Montana a little higher because of the "scoreboard factor," like everyone else said.
     
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