Tytus Howard = Duane Brown 2.0???

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  1. ATXtexanfan

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    Did OB ever put DB at RT
    Just saying
     
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    No. The only other position he has ever played was TE in HS and College.
     
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    This Howard "gentleman" can play RT for us. Scharping is our LT.
     
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    Wait a minute ...... this is a shot at that "O'Brien flexibility principle" ..... isn't it ? See .... if you were using Dillard and McGary .... which we all should be .... I'd know the answer immediately !
     
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    fwiw, In this short one on one Gaine does hint at it this way.
     
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    Maybe at first and only if he can beat out D. Howard is more of a true LT than Scharping. I am concerned about Doc's thoughts on Scharp's injuries making him better left side. I had him slotted RT but may need play LG with Rankin shifting RG moving Fulton or becoming a backup one season. We just might be building an offensive line as we've hoped.
     
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    You may be confusing his injuries with another player I described.............maybe Mancz. Scharping has been essentially injury free.
     
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    Who had the labrum tear in the right shoulder?
     
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    Can Howard be as good as Duane Brown? Maybe not, but he doesn't have to be. I'll take him turning into a good, solid, top-drawer type pro for the next decade. The same goes for Scharping. These guys becoming perennial All Pro caliber would be wonderful, but after what our O Line has been lately, I'll take them just getting close.
     
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    If I'm Howard, I'd probably be hanging on Khalil's every word for insight. He might be the best OL Coach on the Texans.
     


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    You just said that Howard does not have to be as good as Duane Brown and then went on to describe Duane Brown.
     
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    Speaking of the O Line coaching, Devlin is still a bit of a mystery to me. He had to know something about coaching to get this far in his career, right? Can he learn and grow as a coach, or has he topped out on his personal development curve? Another post (?) referenced the Peter Principle which describes a man rising to his level of incompetence.
    Is there an evaluation system for coaches? If so, where does Devlin fit?
     
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    You had me there, so I googled Duane Brown. He's been to the Pro Bowl 4 times. He's also been First Team All Pro once and Second Team All Pro twice. I'd be happy if Howard got close to that kind of career for 10+ years.
    Guys have been talking about Duane Brown like he was the second coming of King Kong.
     
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    Re. Scharping: An old injury (when answering above, was thinking in terms of a recent or ongoing injury). It appears that he is entirely over this problem. I just mentioned that in only theoretical terms preferring to minimize trauma to that shoulder the left side may be "kinder" to his shoulder............although this far out without any apparent problems gives him an excellent chance of having no further problems with it unless he of course suffers another independent injury.

    Sorry for any confusion I may have created with the last sentence above.
     
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    Not too sure about the accuracy of this site:
    http://www.optimumscouting.com/news/who-has-the-juice-nfl-offensive-line-coaches

    :coffee:
     
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    Right near or at the bottom.....he's failed miserably at coaching up any of the OL. This could be due to OB's offensive system or lack of one. I think OB and Devlin could've gotten far more out of this personnel if they had incorporated a ZBS.
     
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    Evidently you looked at only the left side of the chart. At #16, he's ranked right in the middle, and was brought down severely by "sack value" which was mostly created by our talent level. Making up the other factor determining "total value" and final ranking, he ranked 5th of all OL coaches for "tackle for loss value."
     
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    If his goal is to collect a lot of money from desperate teams, yeah. Kalil is probably that guy.

    But you don't have to be a pro bowl player to be a top tier coach. Gary Kubiak for example couldn't hold a starting job, but he knows how to coach an offense.

    IE, Henderson may be a better mentor than Kalil.
     
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    If they really like a guy, they may be inclined to give pointers and tips.
    Otoh, if they are on short contracts or feel the newbie may put them out of a job, they may be disinclined
     
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