Travis Johnson v. Derrick Johnson

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  1. the wonger need food

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    Here's how they compare after week 1....

    DJ - 8 tackles, 1 assist, 1 sack, 1 fumble recovered.

    TJ - 2 tackles.

    Derrick Johnson would not have been a good fit here... he actually makes tackles and plays.

    BTW... The 4 starting LB's for the Texans had 10 tackles, 0 sacks and 0 fumble recoveries. And were playing against a weaker offensive line.
     
  2. Elite

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    hey but he wasnt cut for our system what a bunch of baloney we need play makers we missed out on a solid players thanks casserly hope you find anopther job in the league after you get canned this year.
     
  3. Porky

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    Nah, taking a playmaker like DJ makes no sense at all. :brickwall
     
  4. DomDavis

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    You're comparing tackles and sacks from a LB to a DT in a 3-4 scheme? That's beyond insane.

    TJ isn't supposed to get a lot of sacks or tackles. He's supposed to tie up blockers so that the linebackers can make plays. Take a look at Ted Washington's tackles and sacks statistics per season and tell me that he's not a good player.
     
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    I think the coaching staff forgot they wanted the other Johnson :tomato:
     
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    Nice attempt but good luck trying to convince them otherwise.
     
  7. the wonger need food

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    We're talking about drafting a playmaker really. He is already better than any of the Texans linebackers.
     
  8. DomDavis

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    Doesn't change the fact that comparing statistics of a DT in a 3-4 to a linebacker is ridiculous.

    Also, fwiw, TJ played better than any of our defensive linemen, imo.
     


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    ...bet you're hoping for the day you don't have to make excuses for everything the Texans do....his point was not aimed at what posisition
    the players play but their production---how do Greenwoods stats compare to DJ?
     
  10. Porky

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    IMO, Gary Walker played the best game by a dlineman. True, statistally it may not be a fair comparison. How about we just put those numbers in place of Moron Greenjeans.

    Greenwood:

    T-A SCK INT FF
    2-3 0.0 0 0

    Another brilliant offseason move by CC and Company. The Chickens are coming home to roost.
     
  11. DomDavis

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    And his point is flawed because you cannot accurately measure a DT's impact in statistics.
     
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    Ok who cares about TJ, just look at DJ, he played better than anyone on our defense excluding Dunta.
     
  13. Vinny

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    Gary Walker had a great game. He was named player of the game on the post game show.
     
  14. the wonger need food

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    Derrick Johnson had 2 less tackles and 1 more sack than the Texans 4 starters at LB.

    And he was playing against a better offensive line.
     
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    Casserly doesn't like to draft playmakers. He likes projects... Those who played one or two downs their entire college career.
     
  16. Porky

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    Yes, and preferably a player who will also be making a position change as well.
     
  17. TexSon

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    and coming off a serious injury...
     
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    You all should have taken DJ. It was INSANE for you all to pass him up...
     
  19. tsip

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    Why do they have offensive/defensive players of the game when you
    are considering 11 different posisitions?


    Somebody-somewhere is able to determine, for example, that a qb
    out played a rb!
     
  20. The Texans will be not be living this one down. It was a perfect fit, a local sensation that was very marketable in this region, especially when we were letting go a LB and had an immediate opening.
     

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