Tramon Williams was a Texan?

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  1. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    I just heard that Tramon Williams (CB, GB) was signed as a UDFA by the Texans in Kubiak's first year. He was cut in preseason. Anyone know anything about how/if he played here, and maybe the first couple years as a Packer? Seems like a guy that was coached up.
     
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    Luv_ya_blue 1%er

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    Saw too much potential...
     
  3. PapaL

    PapaL Loose Screw

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    Didn't fall?
     
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    Brisco_County Texans worthy

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    They didn't like how closely he stayed on his man.
     
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    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    Yeah he was here briefly after not being drafted. Don't recall anything about him standing out at the time. His first year in Green Bay he was a special teamer. Doesn't hurt him any that Woodson is on the other side.
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    The Packers picked him up in late Nov. off the streets because they had some injury issues.
     
  7. ArlingtonTexan

    ArlingtonTexan Moderator Staff Member

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    Just flipped through a few threads from that time and there was no fan excitement about the guy. a couple though he had some potnetial, but should be a practice squad guy. At that point Tramon williams did not look anything like Tramon williams. I know there will be revisionist stuff, but really he had no buzz around him.
     
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    Yep. He was probably yelled at and told to get off the practice field.

    5-yard cushion is the way to go. Everybody knows that.
     
  9. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    That's pretty much the norm for most CBs, though. If they aren't drafted in the first round or two, they're probably going to spend a while on STs while they learn. You have to be able to take talent from later rounds and develop it. Our coaches seem to take defensive talent from all rounds and make them worse.

    And I still don't understand Antwaun Molden, but I digress.
     
  10. Blake

    Blake MMQB

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    To be fair every team passed on him in the draft. And like Cak said he is playing opposite Woodson.
     
  11. HoustonFrog

    HoustonFrog Dallas Frog

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    Yeah I've mentioned him in a few threads..lol..:)

    To go from where he was to now I'd say both seeing something in him and coaching the kid up were the keys.
     
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    eriadoc Texan-American

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    Playing opposite Woodson means they're going to test him. He still has to make the plays when they do.
     
  13. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder COOL BEANS!

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    Maybe he sucks at playing zone coverage?
     
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    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    Sure but the point I was making is having a Woodson or Nnamdi caliber CB allows the D to scheme differently and for instance blitz more or shift coverage toward the other side. He definitely is making plays.
     
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    eriadoc Texan-American

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    To be fair, every team passed on Arian Foster in the draft, but Kubiak saw something there. We haven't had a coach on staff, defensive or otherwise it seems, that is capable of seeing something in guys like Tramon Williams before they are "Tramon Williams".
     
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    thunderkyss Salem Poor

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    Before the game, Woodson was talking about some of the "coaching" he's been giving Tramon.

    Very interesting... very good stuff.
     
  17. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder COOL BEANS!

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    Have there been any late round, UDFA pickups on defense that the Texans have turned into stars? The only one's that come to mind are Zac Diles (7th round pick) and possibly Glover Quin (4th round pick), but neither are all that great so far. Bernard Pollard was brought in here after being cut, but he's not all that spectacular beyond hitting people.
     
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    Are there that many UDFAs in the league that become stars that we can actually count that against the Texans?

    I mean, really?
     
  19. ThaShark316

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    For every Arian Foster and Tramon Williams there is an guy who got to camp and did nothing.

    Everyone has this happen, but it's easy to pile on right now.
     
  20. HoustonFrog

    HoustonFrog Dallas Frog

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    I'll try and ride the fence here....you can't expect every guy to pan out BUT

    I honestly think the difference between top teams and the also rans is the ability to take guys like this, see something and coach it up. Put them in the right position to succeed. Raheem Brock also came up this post season. The guy was with the Texans after being in the league. Was known as a pass rusher. Texans needed one. He got 10 with Seattle this season. Again, I'm not going to fault them for everything but at some point on defense when you have 2 huge needs....DBs and pass rush...and guys like this get away..it is going to be magnified. Is that on talent evaluation or other teams willing to spend some time on the guy?Not sure.

    MMQB was pointing out how the Steelers got key contributions from guys drafted the last 2 years. Just saying, it has to happen.
     
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