Top 10 in both Total Offense and Total Defense = last place???

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  1. AndyWin

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    This has to be some kind of record, right?

    4th overall in Defense
    10th overall in Offense

    2-10 record, last place in the NFL... wtf??? When's the last time a team ranked in the top 10 in both categories and weren't even in playoff CONTENTION around this time of the season?
     
  2. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder COOL BEANS!

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    You are definitely the first person to bring this up.
     
  3. AndyWin

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    That just highlights the problems with ranking teams by yardage per game. W-L's and PPG should hold the highest reasons for ranking a team.
     
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    No reason to not look at both but definitely points are more important especially where the discrepancy is so large, as in:

    2013 Texans on points - offense 29th, defense 27th

    Now that looks like 2-10.

    The button says New Thread not Retread Thoughts.
     
  6. TheMatrix31

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    Didn't the Chargers have the same thing happen to them that one year they had all those special teams failures?
     
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    They were #1 in offense and defense by yardage in 2010 and missed the playoffs at 9-7. They weren't first in line for the first pick in the draft though.
     
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    I vote we stop counting points and just go by yardage. Texans in the Superbowl, baby! :spin::spin::spin:
     


  9. TejasTom

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    This has more to do with starting field position than anything else.

    Our defense can't give up anymore yards because the opposing team takes a short field to the end zone.

    The offense has gets lots of yards because they start behind the 20 so often.
     
  10. HJam72

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    It might be an issue, but they really do suck in the red-zone. Both O & D.
     
  11. Thorn

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    :lol:

    Yeah, I mentioned this crap a week or so ago. Judging offenses and defenses by solely yardage is silly. Like our wonderful secondary giving up so little yardage just makes me LOL. HOW MANY POINTS DO THEY GIVE UP??????
     
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    Only one point per yard, sir. Very respectable stud parading.
     
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    When you start around the 10-15 yard line every drive due to ****ty special teams, drive 70 yards, and miss a field goal you distort the numbers. Improving field position and getting tds instead of fgs(or missed field goals) is a big key.
     
  14. steelbtexan

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    This is what happens when you get to rack up yardage in blowouts and teams are ahead running out the clock. Basically spot 1 TD a game on tunovers and have the worsrt ST's ever.

    This proves what I've been telling TK for yrs, stats are for losers.
     
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    The Texans are great on O&D between the 20's . It's inside the 20's that they blow big time . :pinned:
     
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    Like The Hoodie said, "stats are for losers, the scoreboard is for winners".

    So, yeah, whatever helps you cope, Texans fans.

    But to me, stats are completely worthless when your team is losing 10 in a row and shows very little life for an entire season.

    The only stat that has given me any joy this season is Andre Johnson hitting 900 catches, one of only 15 players to do it and the second fastest to achieve it. It means something to him, so for that, I care. Congrats, Andre. You are the lone bright spot in a very dismal season.
     
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