Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by Vinny, Oct 6, 2009.
In the "things I can't comprehend" section from Michael Silver of Yahoo Sports
Yup - same standards should be applied to coaches. Now this is a first offense and the players he mentions are repeat offenders, but nonetheless coaches should not be exempt in any fashion.
It is going to be interesting to see how Goodell treats this incident. He risks losing credibility with the players if he goes light on the coach.
if anything, coachs should be held to a higher standard, most certainly not lower.
Odd that they will hold coaches to equal drug standards and ban them for a failed drug test, but won't act on this.
I wonder how quickly it would've been handled if it were a coach like Mike Tomlin, or Raheem Morris.
What the hell are you trying to say?
Well if you are going to throw it out there about the players...... You telling me the media wouldn't blow that up more?
The league didn't even suspend Steve Smith last season when he busted a CB's nose. His team did, but Goodell didn't get involved.
This is a different issue with coaches, and it's not the norm so I can see why it's being reviewed possibly a little more.
But what I don't get is what difference would it make if it were Tomlin who did this? Why would he be any different than Cable?
And another thing is that Goodell hasn't been consistent with any of his suspensions. He's been all over the place and anything but consistent with his fines and suspensions.
I guess I'm not understanding the "double standard" mumbo jumbo. Doesn't Goodell usually allow justice to run it's course before handing out punishment? I haven't been following this story as close as some (cuz I don't care), but I don't think the law is finished with this case.
Why should Goodell do anything until Cable's proven guilty?
Goodell acted on Pacman before the law was done. Now that was his 17th offense so draw your own distinction.
Here's a pdf of the most recent personal conduct policy.
Notably, it doesn't talk about "criminal case" but rather "criminal activity." It also subjects the person to an evaluation and counseling even if they are not charged if it is appears as though they violated the policy, which it certainly appears that Cable did.
If the case involves "significant bodily harm," they can make a decision even before a criminal case has concluded even on a first offense. Hanson had his jaw broken and cracked two teeth.
Clubs are required to report these incidents under the policy. At the time this happened, the Raiders publicly denied anything happened.
Cable is in a boatload of trouble. Read this Nancy Gay (long time Raider writer) article about the details.
That is nuts. Crazy nuts.
Cage match: Cable versus Rex Ryan? Who would you take?
Exactly my thoughts since this thread was started. I believe the case was just handed over to the DA's office the other day.
Pac Man had already been on a zero tolerance policy before that had happened and was almost not even let back into the league that year. He was told that if even the slightest incident occured with him he would be gone again.
Actually that Pac Man case was one of the most bullshit rulings from the commish, because the commish only suspended him for four freaking games, when he was supposed to be out for a year or two when that happened. he assaulted his own paid security in a public hotel. He completely broke the zero tolerance policy imposed from Goodell but got a soft punishment. Throughout all of the suspensions, they have all been for longer periods of time and for more games once you screwed up again and again. Pac Man had already been suspended for a full year and was then put on a zero tolerance policy and attacked a man in a public hotel, so he should have gotten at least a year for that incident but he only got 4 games since it was Jerry Jones's little toy.
Ha. I think he was waaay too generous with Pacman. He should've never let him back in the league after the 16th. Eh, thankfully we don't have to deal with that asshat. At least for now.
Yeah, I haven't cared a whole lot about the situation to even post, but the bickering about Goodell kinda nicked a nerve. I actually love how Goodell has handled player discipline throughout the league. I thought he gave pacman too many chances, but meh.
Right there with you bro!! I think some people forget how outta control some of the discipline problems had gotten under Tagliabue. And yes, he was a little soft on Pacman.
Totally agree! The NFL needed badly.
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