Discussion in 'Mock Draft Talk' started by Playoffs, Dec 18, 2013.
I like it. I just flip 1 & 2 around and take Matthews. Then I grab Mettenberger with the 2nd round pick and I'm done on offense for this year.
As WolverineFan said in another thread why not take Bridgewater or Bortles 1st and then a RT 2nd?
Bridgewater is not Luck but Matthews is not Pace or Boselli either.
Which one is closer to that standard though? I think Matthews has a better chance of approaching Boselli than Bridgewater has of getting within spitting distance of Luck.
I'm hoping we get to deal out of the top spot and pick up a few extra picks along the way but if we don't then that's how I would do it.
Well the real question isn't two unattainables, it is the drop off in what is attainable.
So we have no Luck or Boselli in this draft. What is the drop off from Bridgewater/Bortles to Mettenberger v. Matthews to an Erving or Richardson?
There are rare exceptions but usually the drop off on QBs is a cliff whereas the drop off on OT's is a relative gentle slope. We're talking about getting another guy akin to Duane Brown v. getting one like Brock Osweiller, Jimmy Clauson, Pat White, etc. Virtually every year there are OTs taken after the top of the 2nd who pan out while only once in a while do the QBs pan out.
Or we could pull a Browns and draft an OT first then trade back into the back end of the first. Joe Thomas was a good pick. Brady Quinn who was expected to go top 10 that draft welll .....
Taken from: (http://www.reddit.com/r/falcons/comments/1t7q0r/for_those_without_insider_here_is_mcshays_mock/)
1 Houston Texans: Teddy Bridgewater* QB Louisville
2 St. Louis Rams: Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M
3 Oakland Raiders: Blake Bortles* QB UCF
4 Jacksonville Jaguars: Johnny Manziel* QB Texas A&M
5 Atlanta Falcons: Jadeveon Clowney* DE South Carolina
6 Cleveland Browns: Derek Carr QB Fresno State
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Anthony Barr OLB UCLA
8 Minnesota Vikings: Khalil Mack OLB Buffalo
9 Buffalo Bills: Taylor Lewan OT Michigan
10 Tennessee Titans: Cyrus Kouandjio* OT Alabama
11 New York Giants: C.J. Mosley OLB Alabama
12 Pittsburgh Steelers: Louis Nix III NT Notre Dame
13 New York Jets: Sammy Watkins* WR Clemson
14 St. Louis Rams: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* S Alabama
15 Detroit Lions: Marqise Lee* WR USC
16 Dallas Cowboys: Stephon Tuitt* DL Notre Dame
17 San Diego Chargers: Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
18 Green Bay Packers: Eric Ebron* TE UNC
19 Philadelphia Eagles: Ekpre-Olomu* CB Oregon
20 Baltimore Ravens: Mike Evans* WR Texas A&M
21 Chicago Bears: Dominique Easley DL Florida
22 Miami Dolphins: Timmy Jernigan* DT FSU
23 Cleveland Browns: Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
24 Cincinnati Bengals: Scott Crichton* DE Oregon State
25 Arizona Cardinals: Morgan Moses OT Virginiia
26 New England Patriots: Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State
27 Carolina Panthers: Kelvin Benjamin* WR FSU
28 San Francisco 49ers: Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota
29 New Orleans Saints: Marcus Robertson* CB Florida
30 Kansas City Chiefs: Paul Richardson* WR Colorado
31 Denver Broncos: Zack Martin OT Notre Dame
32 Seattle Seahawks: Antonio Richardson* OT Tennesee
Thanks for posting, it just supports my taking Matthews and a QB in second barring a trade down.
What QB in the 2nd though?
How so? Your taking a pass on Bridgewater-Bortles-Manziel.
Not high on any of those especially at 1-1. Admittedly, my focus on Bortles was late season and when I watched those games...I looked elsewhere. Fans complain about Keenum's playing only a half then want Bortles? Like most if Manziel is highly successful in NFL, I will smack my forehead and groan but if he fizzles, I will do chicken dance. I still think Hundley comes out & my info (as posted) is maybe a second rounder. My thinking as of now would be McCarron if Hundley not there. I think AJ climbs after combine. I remember you posting once that you really liked AJ? In short, Matthews + McCarron better than Bridges or Bortles + 2nd round tackle. I have to include risk as well as play.
So this QB class is being discussed as deep but with no elite prospects, and yet four QBs will go in the top six picks? When has that ever happened?
Has more to do with the new caps on rookie deals, if anything.
I seriously doubt McShay took that into account. He just has no clue what's he doing.
The new caps do make a difference, but there will not be four QBs in the top six.
For what it's worth I agree, but if there was, that would probably play a huge part.
You. Don't. Draft. A. Right. Tackle. Number. One. Ever.
I think the Chief's grabbing Fisher made sense, but only because of very, very, very specific circumstances.
You are wrong. If the RT is BPA and fills a high priority need and can play every position on the line and could be a franchise type player, I draft him in a minute. There is huge drop in quality of players in second round.
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