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  1. Blake

    Blake MMQB

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    I am thinking that the Texans have to be shopping the first pick. For either Leinart, Young, or Bush. Bush and Leinart most likly. If you find that special someone, who isnt below #5, and gives you a good deal, then I say pull the trigger, drop down and take a top 5 player in a stacked draft.

    Now, what happens if you cant sell someone that pick for a #1 next year? Then you look at the Titans and the Saints, and see if they want to swap for a #2 this year, and something next year. Then you can take a top 3 player.

    Well what happens if we cant trade? Or what happens if we dont trade, and have to pay Carr his money? Well I think you lose alot of value if people know you wont take Lienart or Young, with money bags Carr on board. And I think you just have to take Bush #1 overall.

    The point is, that once we pick up Carr's contract, its 90% locked in that Bush is our guy. I cant see us getting a sweet enough deal from some team that wants Bush.

    Look for a flurry of trades in the top 10 this year. its going to be wild.
     
  2. MorKnolle

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    I agree, I think the decision on resigning Carr will go a long way to showing who we intend to draft. I think they will definitely be interested in taking trade offers, and I think Kubiak will definitely be interested in trading down after evaluating our guys because I think he will evaluate Carr and our RB crew as being good enough and see the gaping holes we have at OLine and defense, so I think he will definitely look to trade down if he can get a decent offer. That's my view on things.
     
  3. Blake

    Blake MMQB

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    Good point MorKnolle. I dont have a problem with taking Reggie, or Vince, as long as we take a guard, and tackle in the 2nd and 3rd round.

    I really hope Winston, or McNeil falls to the 2nd. If not, I would just take one of the top2 guards. Max, or Davin.

    1. Bush
    2. Winston
    3. Joseph

    The bigger question is, what to do with Domanick Davis if we draft Bush?

    I mean, we will have Wells, and Morency, both of whom I like backing Bush up. Im not sure of the ramifications of trading Davis. But he might have no role come August...

    Any thoughts?
     
  4. BuffSoldier

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    I definitely think that Kubiak will be shopping the pick unless he is totally in love with Bush. I doubt that he would except a trade that doesnt include a first rounder next year, just because of how high New York and Eli set the bar 2 years ago when NY gave up a thrid that year and their first next year.

    I think that they keep DD to do the dirty work in the inside, kinda like USC used LenDale White, I think that we may releaseone of the bottom 2 though.
     
  5. BlueThunder

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    I don't agree!I don't like a forced issue on my team.If they want to play hard ball then throw the pitch.We need a winning team and QBs are like 100 dollar bills.Were going to find someone to lead this team this year.If you guys don't have the balls to take the QB then maybe y6ou guys are hopeless.I want to see Carr beat Vince at anything for myself.Vince Moves the chains.Who was the rose bowl mvp Young ..who was the best player on the fields Young ,,,who got it done against 95 percent odds Young Who did USC give the ball to when the game was on the line Lendale white,,,,,,,,,Where was Reggie Bush?

    Are draft for the olimices or for one of the most emotional games in sports..Vince won that game for his team..
     
  6. BlueThunder

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    Don't blow smoke up my azzzzzzzz:homer:

    Ii'll tell ya what give me Vince and our offense won't be the problem any more..Your defense can have everything else..I'm starting the best QB in camp by numbers.I don't want to hear..well the first team was better and noone was open ,,,,,,,whos's moving the chain!Jerome Mathis did everything Bush has .....
     
  7. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    VY can pass block?

    :cool:
     
  8. BlueThunder

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    Vince don't need to pass.....You put him in that position and he's going to run 60 off on ya...Itsw going to take every one to contain him:brickwall
     


  9. BlueThunder

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    If you guys want a trafe I 'll go back to the Cowboys and give you 1,2,3 and get on my knees...I don't need a rocket scientist i need a football player..If you can't win with a hometown star you start packing right now
     
  10. Texian

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    I can see the Saints wanting to move up if they are dead set on Lienert and are nervous about another team moving up to take him.

    The same could be said about the Titans because of Chow.

    The Jets are interesting, They would love to have Bush as a replacement for Martin. With a new coach they may be looking to fill as many holes as possible by trading down.

    The Raiders cannot be dismissed, you know Al would love to have Bush or Lienert.

    Any of these are probable....Getting Abraham, the Jets #4 and their 3rd RD pick doesn't look to bad....Similar to the Falcons/Chargers trade in 01 for Mike Vick.
     
  11. hot pickle

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    I personally think that we shouldn't draft Bush or Young or Leinart, we need either D'Brick or M.Williams, I think DD can rush for 1500 with a better line, and david carr can improve, he didnt have that bad of a season in 2004. so i say no RB or QB in the first round
     
  12. BlueThunder

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    I'll work every day for five year to get every pick back..I just don't want to see Vince in Parcells hands....I'm mad at him
     
  13. BlueThunder

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    daunta,Your not the star ,,Vince is the star..He77 Carr is the deer in the headlights..I see Vince in the same situation run off 8 and coming back congratulating his line..The qb makes a team goOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
     
  14. dat_boy_yec

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    Dude calm down. First off statwise Carr demolished Vince in passing yards in college. Second the team moves the chains, not Young. Not by a long shot, you act as if it was a blowout victory, you act as if the Texas D didn't show up and stop USC. Who else could Texas have given the ball to. VY is the second person to touch the ball after the center, of course he's gonna get the ball. RB was on the sideline cuz PC made that call, and alot of ppl will argue that had he been in the game it might have turned out differently.
     
  15. dat_boy_yec

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    I hope your joking because in the NFL that's the qb's job. Otherwise VY would be playing RB's position.
     
  16. hot pickle

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    I love Vince, but im just not sure if he can get the job done in the NFL, I really hope he does well, but im just not sure
     
  17. BlueThunder

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    Don't be stupid your whole LIFE #10 going to be a best seller.....The way I look at it is ,,where you got doing what everyone else thinks.......?If you *****s were number 2 you be ready to trade your whole draft for Young
     
  18. BuffSoldier

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    You like VY??? Great. We understand that, but you dont have to keep pushing it. I like D'Brickashaw Ferguson, I post about him but not 8 times in a row. Calm down.
     
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    I don't see that happening, first off Vince is great but he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head so if he's blindsided he's going down. Second the NFL won't let Young break off as many runs as in college. He's a bigger target than Vick and not as fast as him. On the last statement the team makes the QB not the other way around. Look at Plumber and Brady.
     
  20. dat_boy_yec

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    Maybe in Houston when the team is winning, but what about nationwide when the team is mediocre to above average. Drafting Young is what everyone here thinks we should do so that kinda skews your perspective a little bit.
     

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