The Texans are Not Losing Gibbs

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    But who knows about the true future of the rest of the Texans coaching staff. Not too much has been put out there concerning an issue that could affect the stability of many NFL teams. Pension plans have been incentive for coaches to maintain their addresses. What this article doesn't mention is that it is already having effects on some of the teams that have "opted out" of the long-standing agreement. The Texans are one of 9 teams "opting out." The question is, will be see wholesale defections from "status quo" pension teams to "opt out" teams. Seems to me that it is a fairly poor decision to remove NFLcontinuity, one way or the other.



    Texans to keep Gibbs despite dispute
    9 NFL teams anger assistants by opting out of pension plan
     
  2. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

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    It actually says "the Texans do not expect assistant head coach/offense Alex Gibbs to retire." Just to be clear. But I don't think he's going anywhere.
     
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    He didnt come out of retirement for the money in the first place. He loves what he does, and him and Kubes go way back.
     
  4. Grid

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    I find this a little bit scary. Mostly because of what was mentioned in that article.... as one of the 9 teams that opted out, how hard is it going to be to get good quality assistant coaches to come here?


    Also.. how does this save us money? I dont know the first thing about pension plans but... how is Bob McNair responsible for the pensions of coaches that have only been here a few years?

    I dunno.. it is all weird to me... I just hope we dont regret this later.
     
  5. Porky

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    This is a little disconcerting. Sure, maybe Gibbs is ok since he already cashed in, but what about the next time we need a coach. Is he going to go with the Texans and their cheaper pension plan or a team with the NFL standard plan. I know that's not the only consideration, but it is one of the considerations.
     
  6. infantrycak

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    That's an assumption that it is going to be a cheaper pension plan. Don't know about McNair, but the Cowboys also opted out and I bet Jerry uses this as an enticement by providing a better pension plan.
     
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    The Texans are one of nine teams — including Dallas, New England, Atlanta, Jacksonville, New Orleans, Buffalo, Arizona and San Francisco — that opted out of the NFL pension. Owner Bob McNair plans to meet with his employees next week to explain to them why he opted out and what the new plan will be.
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    I dunno, don't discern a common denominator there ? Maybe because there's none ?
     
  8. Porky

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    It's not really a huge assumption when you look at the quote from Mcnair.

    While I have no independent knowledge of a "standard" american industry plan vs. the NFL plan, the article states that the NFL pension plan is one of the best in sports, and it doesn't take a great leap of logic to assume that the sports world in general has a better pension plan than a standard industry plan.
     


  9. CloakNNNdagger

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    The standard pension plan usually excludes 1st year employees altogether. Then each year, the employee can build up a pension fund, either by their own contributions or their employer's contributions or a combination of both. After the 1st year of contribution, the employee is entitled to a small percentage of the total (called partially "vested" in the pension plan). Each year, the percentage of "vested interest" goes up until around the 5th year, the emplyee is considered "fully vested" and are from then on entitled to their entire pension fund. In the real world, this is an incentive for the employee to maintain long-term employment. Looking at the NFL, the "life" of the average assistant coach in the same venue is probably no more that 2-3 years. I suspect that in the NFL pension plan, this is taken into account. If the standard corporate pension plan rules are put in effect, probably most of the assistant coaches would never see any of the benefits............i.e., they would lose all security, and the participating owners would put those monies into their back pockets. This is why I believe there is going to be a very nasty outcome to this scenario. :gun:
     
  10. Polo

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    Maybe McNair will be able to offer more in the ways of salary if they go to a 'standard' pension...

    It may be my immaturity/young age speaking, but the pension plan that a company offers is really a second hand thought for me...I'm much moer concerned with the work environment and the pay I will be recieving...
     
  11. CloakNNNdagger

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    That could be in the long run a very poor short-sighted view for anyone with a family.
     
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    NFL Coaches Association Sounds Off On Pension Issue

     
  13. steelbtexan

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    Unless Uncle BoB comes up with a pension plan better than the current pension plan this is just another case of Uncle BoB being Uncle BoB.

    We will have problems attracting top level asst. coaches.

    I agree with you C-N-D I forecast a nasty conclusion to this situation.

    Mean while Uncle BoB will continue to keep on counting his money.

    This is another example of why the Texans are rated in the top 10 most profitable franchises in all of sports. yet they have never had a winning record.

    I would like to see where the Texans rank in asst. coaches pay. I bet it would rank in the bottom third of the NFL.
     
  14. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6413906.html
     
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    PapaL Loose Screw

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    Wolf 100% Texan

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    dang missed it :thud:

    mods please delete
     
  17. Grid

    Grid Hall of Fame

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    Pardon my frankness... but your a fricking *****.

    When you put up 700 million of your own money to bring a franchise team to Houston.. then you can be an insolent prick.. but until that day comes I think you might try being grateful.

    You might also take note of just how much we have paid our players and coaches. Its not bird feed.
     
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    I'm not sure why he has such a hard on for McNair, but he states that drivel all the time. Been corrected on it many times, but the numbnuts just keeps saying it.
     
  19. steelbtexan

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    Say what you want facts are facts

    McNair is getting out of the pension plan to save money.

    The Texans asst coaches are some of the lowest paid in the NFL.

    When an impact FA is signed that will be a first.

    I cant wait to see how McNair handles upcoming negociations with OD,Ryans and Mario.

    If past history says anything it wont be pretty.

    Look we all want the same thing the Texans to be winners. You have to spend money on players to be an upper echelon franchise on the field. The fans have done their part, now it's time for McNair to step up and not just talk about being a winner but put his money where his mouth is.

    I respect your opinion and would love to have 700 mil to buy a franchise. The best rebuttal that you can come up with is when you spend 700 mil on a team then you can have an opinion. Come On you can do better than that.

    As far as the name calling I have been called far worse and like I said you are entitled to your opinion but to resort to name calling shows a lack of intellegence IMO. Show some class. This may be hard for you but you may find it to be an enlightening experience.

    As far as being ungrateful I will be grateful when THE HOUSTON TEXANS ARE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS.

    Everybody as different opinions, respect is the key.

    KOOLAID ANYBODY
     
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  20. ObsiWan

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    Can you substantiate that "fact" with a link of some kind? Inquiring minds want to know.
     

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