The season isn't over yet

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  1. gtexan02

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    If we cut Kris Brown, start and actually use Slaton, and cut out the ridiculous personal fouls, this team still has a shot.

    Here is our remaining schedule:Indy, at home - We need this game. We were close in Indy. This is a winnable game if we play well.

    Jacksonville in Jax - This is the most important game we have left. Jacksonville is ahead of us in the WC standings. We need this one if we want any shot at the playoffs

    Seattle at home - This is a team on the ropes, should be a win for us

    St Louis in STL - With Bulger gone, and our team able to contain runners like SJack, I think this should be a win

    Miami in Fl - This game is significantly less scary with Ronnie Brown out for the year. We should be able to win here.

    New England at home - NE is a tough team for us to face. Its like the Colts. They pass a lot, and dont rely on the run game. Could go either way.

    We could finish anywhere from 11-5 to 8-8. I think that 9-7 or 10-6 are reasonable records for us to achieve. At some point, this team has got to get a break from the football gods.



    The teams we are still competing against for a wild card are:
    Jacksonville @ 6-4
    Denver @ 6-4
    Pittsburgh @ 6-4
    Baltimore @ 5-5

    Jacksonville
    @SF - This could go either way, but Jax could win this game
    Hou - Lets assume they lose this game
    Mia - Could go either way, but Jax probably wins
    Indy - They were close in Indy, so could go either way.
    @NE - Warm weather team in NE when they are locking up a spot, looks like a loss
    @Cle - Jackonsville should win this easily
    Jacksonville could be anywhere from 10-6 to 8-8. They realistically appear to be headed for a 9-7 or 10-6 record.
    If we beat them and we beat Indy, we will be tied for division record if they also beat Indy, so the tie breaker will go down to common opponents:
    Two games against Indy (both are 0-1 at this point)
    Two games against Tenn (both are 1-1)
    Cardinals (both are 0-1)
    Seattle (Jax is 0-1, we havent played)
    STL (Jax is 1-0, we havent played)
    NYJ (Jax is 1-0, we are 0-1)
    Buffalo (both are 1-0)
    SF (Jax hasnt played, we are 1-0)
    Miami (neither has played)
    So if we both beat Indy, and we both beat Miami, and Jax wins at SF while we win in Sea, then we'll be tied again for common opponents and it goes down to conference wins. Jax is 5-2 in the conference and we are 4-4. At this point, we really need Jax to lose to SF, Miami, or both.

    Denver
    The broncos are currently at 6-4 and on a free fall. Remaining opponents:
    NYG - Giants should take care of this game
    @KC - Division game, could go either way
    @Indy - Indy should win this game
    Oak - Denver will probably win this game, although its a division game
    @Philly - In Philly is always difficult, could go either way
    KC - At home to close the season against KC, Denver should win
    So Denver looks to be somewhere between 8-8 and 10-6.
    They are 2-1 in the division, with 3 winnable division games left, giving them the tie breaker over us. We need them to fall to 8-8 or 9-7 in order to jump them in the rankings

    Pittsburgh
    The Steelers are at 6-4 and coming off an embarassing loss at KC. Big Ben also got hurt, although he plans to play Sunday.
    @Baltimore - tough game, could go either way
    Oakland - Should be a win
    @Cleveland - Should be a win
    Green Bay - Either way
    Baltimore - Tough division game, but at home, goes either way
    @Miami - Finish up the season between 2 teams in the hunt, could go either way
    They have to play Baltimore twice, meaning that both of these teams are not going to be in the wc race by seasons end.
    Realistically they appear to be headed for 8-8 to 11-5. I dont think they can sweep Baltimore, but we'll have to see. That loss to KC really helped us. If they split with Baltimore, that puts them at 7-5. They would then have 2 gimmes to put them at 9-5. Games against GB and Miami leaves them at 11-5 or 10-6. A split with Baltimore and a victory at Cleveland gives them a division record of 3-3, which would tie us if we beat Indy and Jax.
    Common opponents:
    Tenn (Steelers 1-0, Texans 1-1)
    Bengals (Steelers 0-2, Texans 1-0)
    Oakland (Steelers yet to play, Texans 1-0)
    Miami (both yet to play)

    Baltimore Currently sits at 5-5
    Remaining games:
    Pitt - division, will probably split
    @GB - tough game in cold Lambeau
    Detroit - should be a gimme
    Chicago - This team is a mess, and can go either way
    @Pitt - See above
    @Oakland - should be a gimme
    That leaves them at 7-9 to 10-6. I dont see them sweeping Pitt
    Division record with a split at Pitt is 3-3, also tied with us if we beat Indy and Jax
    Common opponents:
    NE - Baltimore lost, weve yet to play
    Bengals - Baltimore 0-2, Texans 1-0
    Indy - Both lost
    Oakland - Texans 1-0, Baltimore yet to play

    So again, another toss up

    I didn't include Miami because we have a head to head game with them

    Summary:
    The Texans are at 5-5 with 2 gimme games (7-5) and 4 that could go either way. Division record is the tie breaker after head to heads, and so we desperately need to win both our division games to have any shot at the playoffs.

    The Jaguars are 6-4 with 1 gimme (7-4) and 5 that could go either way. If we want to jump them for a chance at the WC, we need them to lose both division games (to us and to Indy)

    The Broncos are 6-4 with 2-3 gimmees (8-4) and 3-4 that could go either way. This team is two faced, so I can't tell how competitive they are right now. If they continue to freefall, they may be a nonfactor

    The Steelers are 6-4 with 2 gimmees (8-4) and 4 games that could go either way.

    The Ravens are 5-5 with 2 gimmees (7-5) and 4 that could go either way.

    These last two play each other twice before the season is over, and that result will go a long way in determining who gets in.

    All of these teams have legimate chances to make the postseason, but we'll have to wait and see what happens.

    It looks like there could be as many 5 teams tied at 10-6 with similar division records, so at this point SOS is important, as is record in teh conference, against common opponents, and in the DIVISION.

    Last night was a tough, tough loss for su
     
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  2. Pantherstang84

    Pantherstang84 @rolisrgti06

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    The Texans have to win out from this point. It's not gonna happen.
     
  3. jaayteetx

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    they still have a shot, yes. this game against Indy is it, they win and anything is possible, they lose and they're playing for nothing more than to finish with a winning record.
     
  4. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

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    I think we get one more loss, that can't be named Jacksonville.
     
  5. gtexan02

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    *sigh* why did I bother posting this with the stupidity that fans are showing today.

    Did you even read the post? The Texans dont need to win out. 10-6 looks like the record that both wildcard spots are going to be claimed with.

    11-5 would all but guarantee a playoff spot.

    We could easily go 5-1 and make the playoffs
     
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    Thank you!

    We need both division games to have any shot at a tie breaker, but we don't need to win out. We could theoretically lose to a non-divisional opponent and still win (although we really can't lose to Miami either because most of the other wc teams play miami and they are also in the race)
     
  7. Pantherstang84

    Pantherstang84 @rolisrgti06

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    10-6 won't get in. 5-1 will not happen either. Sorry to break it to ya. This team does not have the mental fortitude to finish tough games. They just don't.
     
  8. Mr. White

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    As much as I hate these threads, I agree with you.

    Having said that, it seems like the only time that Kubiak gets these guys ready to play a game is when criticism is at its highest and his job is on the line.
     


  9. jaayteetx

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    Not sure if my post was considered "stupidity" or not, but I'm looking at the attitude of the team going forward after the Indy game. If they win, they'll feel like anything is possible, they lose and its "well, here we go again".
     
  10. Thorn

    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    The Texans have a very doable and good chance of being above 500 for the season. But not the playoffs unless they change. Right now the Texans are still the Texans of old, they are just a more talented version of the same ole same ole.

    Until this team learns how to win close games, you can forget about the playoffs.
     
  11. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

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    I REALLY REALLY feel like Kubes and his staff play not to lose instead of playing to win, and that has cost us several games this year.
     
  12. GP

    GP Go Texans!

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    9-7.

    After watching us the past two games, I do NOT see how in the world we can think we're going to only lose one more game.

    We're going to fall asleep on someone we shouldn't lose to, and the Pats game is a loss. Unless some freaky things happen, AND if they sit their stars. Which nobody has sat their stars against ANY Houston team. Ever. In any sport.

    10-6 is an awfully bold prediction, gtexan.

    Hell, if we lose to the Colts or Jags, and we could just as well lose to BOTH of them, then that blows the hell out of 10-6 AND 9-7.

    I can't seem to even begin to think past the next two games. And I sure hope the Texans players and coaches feel the same way. Not ragging your thread or your opinions. Just adding my two cents worth to the conversation.
     
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    GP Go Texans!

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    Exactly.

    Everyone was laughing at Fisher when they were 0-6. I wasn't. I said that I won't believe they are dead until I see their casket in the ground. And look what happened. They're not dead. Not by a mile.

    Fisher coaches one way, and his team seems to respond by acting the same way on the field. Kubiak coaches his own way, and look at our team. We're tentative and shaky and wobbly. Full of anxiety.

    If there's a chance to make a next step, we spiral back down to .500 football again. This is the year of the Yo-Yo for the Texans.
     
  14. HOU-TEX

    HOU-TEX Ah, Football!

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    IMO, the next two divisional games are must wins. We're 1-3 against our own division now, and that sucks.
     
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    Sorry I don't think 10-6 gets us to the playoffs, I think 11-5 is the only way you get in as a wildcard this year.
     
  16. Hookem Horns

    Hookem Horns That Server Guy Staff Member

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    Whatever, the Texans humiliated us last night. All of us who are x-Oilers fans, who despise Bud Adams, and who have to listen to all the VY fanboys everywhere we go.

    Sure, the Titans are and always will be postseason chokers, however the Texans are regular season chokers and that doesn't look like it is going to change.
     
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    11-5 is the only way in and thats it. I don't see making it yet again, still pissed sorry.:bat:
     
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    You're great. The thing is we should've drafted VY and that is it, we didn't and this is gonna be a curse for years to come. This is still the beginning.:user:
     
  19. wagonhed

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    Easily go 5-1? Are you freaking kidding me? For this team and the way they've been playing, what part about beating Jacksonville, Miami, NE, or Indy sounds easy to you?

    Unless we find something we haven't had all year except during the Bengals and Colts game, we will lose 3-4 of those games.
     
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  20. Wolfiegrrl

    Wolfiegrrl Wonder Woman

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    I think this is a very valid point. I don't see us going out and punching teams in the mouth, keeping the pressure on, and kicking them while they are down. I am a bit tired of watching this team playing "not to lose" football. Perhaps, the entire team and coaches need to watch more game film of the Patriots and the Saints? "Good" guys finish last in football. We need more Killer attitudes in the coaching staff. We need our guys playing like assassins. No quit until your opponent is dead.

    :aggressive:
     

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