If you are not a member of the "We're going 13-3" club, you have absolutely nothing to complain about. If you thought we would go 8-8, 7-9, 6-10........ then this is what it looks like. Starting Rookies will look like starting rookies.. Especially if you take the #1 overall and play him out of position because you have no one on the team who can play that position. No...... Seth Payne does not play the position well.... he may very well be the best we've ever seen on this team, but that isn't saying much. TJ is getting better...... again, that ain't saying much. You want to see Mario out as a DE more often?? TJ & Seth has to step it up, that's all there is to it. Kubiak made a mistake.... first of all, he was working in January, trying to get his former team into the superbowl.......... then he had a little more than a month to study our team, and find out how to fix 4 years of abyssmal football. from the get go, he said we need a defensive end to get pressure on the QB. So we went and got Weaver. We all knew he wasn't a pass rusher. We all knew he was going to help us stop the run. As time went on, I think he found out that we were weaker @ DT than we were at DE........ and that's why he's been putting all his money(Weaver & Mario) in at DT. So yeah, he made a mistake...... thinking he could get something out of RobaireSmith...... whom a lot of youse guys thought was our best defensive lineman. & it makes sense..... if I'm Kubiak, before talking & working with these guys... to think Robaire is serviceable, and that he can get 1st roung production out of TJ...... Well he's got TJ closer to where he should be(TJ looks like he lost some weight....... he looks like a DE)...... and he dumped Robaire...... So..... I'm still thinking we'll get to 13-3...... I know Ibar's with me. but I doubt he's whining and crying like you babies..... If you think we're going to lose 8, 9, of 10 games....... then come on with the I told you so's, and stop crying.