The New New JaDeveon Clowney Thread

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  1. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    Opinion piece just like the one you dissed out of Boston but not near as credible
     
  2. steelbtexan

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    Probably, nobody really knows what was offered.
     
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    It has sources unlike the violin piece
     
  4. JB

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    So he claims... doesn't change the facts
     
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    I posted a article stating Obrien didn't like Clowney from the jump months ago.
     
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    Am I understanding this correctly? Paying him $16M this year and $19M next year, under the franchise tag, is denying him a "major payday"?
     
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    I believe if OB wanted Clowney signed he would be signed. Just what I believe.
     
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    He probably wants like 50-60M on a signing bonus with a 100M deal. Big difference.
     
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    I wouldn't say that,I would rather just have him for 4-5 years
     
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    Of course that is a lot of money. But Khalil Mack received $41 mil in the 1st season of his contract, $56.5 mil in 1st 2 seasons, so $21.5 mil more.
     


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    Didn't know that first year of Mack's front end loaded contract was so disproportionate.
     
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    It's mainly 24% of the contract value as signing bonus. That's not an unusual %, it's just a huge contract.
     
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    https://twitter.com/Cody_Stoots/status/1148781906173026304

    I guess the hot topic now will be that Clowney is a greedy bastard and he should burn in hell for wanting so much money? The longer the team waits .. the more it will cost! And in all actuality if the team wants to take the attitude of some contributors here "ahhh screw him, force him to take the franchise tag for two years and then fk him and the horse he rode in on arrrghhhh" then the funny thing is that Clowney only needs to play 6 games for the money to be guaranteed and then he can become a nuisance or fake an injury or whatever to sit out and not risk his future on the dysfunction of the current team.

    Texans have no leverage, the more news that comes out, the more incompetent they seem. They are so stupid they dont know what to do with him! Obviously you cant trade away your 2nd best defender right, but then they dont want to pay that guy the market valuation, instead trying to circumvent the negligible amount of money between the two positions (OLB,DE) showing how cheap and petty they really are and losing any leverage on strong returns because of the gossip and rumor that keeps coming out of their offices. The Khalil Mack deal came out of left field and both teams felt happy about the compensation, ANY DEAL INVOLVING CLOWNEY moving forward will be met with a shrug and expected league wide.

    So yeah keep banking on Clowney playing happily under a 2 year franchise tag with no guarantee beyond that, im pretty sure that will end well I'll get the popcorn ready.
     
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    He'd only get paid for the games played so $6 mil in 2019, $7.1 mil in 2020. That's $21.9 mil & 2 years he'll never get back. Yeah right the Texans have no leverage.

    And lol @ docs not being able to figure out faking. He pulls that sh!t and it wouldn't even count as a season.

    Clowney and the Texans have twice agreed to split the difference between OLB & DE. That's not the problem.
     
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    Yes, people are starting to see the Texans are a cheapass org.

    And I dont want the Texans to re-sign Clowney due to that knee.
     
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    Clowney is not on the same level as Mack. He hasn't earned that kind of a payday.
     
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    This is true, hes also good enough when on the open market he would get close to that
     
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    I don't want to lose Clowney, but I would rather franchise him for two years and let him walk than to be saddled with a ridiculous contract. Especially for a player that has an injury history and relies almost exclusively on his athleticism. Just because there is a desperate team out there with money to burn doesn't mean the Texans should overpay.
     
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    I get on OB about a lot. And I actually LOVE Clowney as a player...

    But I dont blame OB one bit if he's hesitant on giving him a big contract.

    But like I said a while ago, they better have some studs incoming on defense because he's been 1a or 1b on this defense for the past couple years.

    Completely disagree with anyone who thinks we will be fine without him without some suitable replacements ready to go.
     
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